United and Liverpool driving "Project Big Picture" - Football’s biggest shake-up in a generation

[georgipep]

I don’t believe that.

I like it as a competition, especially as the final is early on. It also give lower league teams the opportunity to play against PL teams, that’s important to fans. It’s has sponsorship for decades, it’s not a problem.

frankly I don’t watch any summer tournaments, and rarely watch a pre-season game. They serve a purpose, but hold no value to me to watch.

that’s what’s great about football, different opinions.

The FA Cup gives a lot more opportunity for lower league teams to play better opponents.

Carabao has the lowest viewership of all the competitions the PL clubs participate in and that's why they want to scrap it.

Also, the fact that you like it and don't watch summer tournaments doesn't mean the majority of football watching fans are the same as you. Do you not think that these plans are based on commercial potential? If the big clubs are proposing it, it's because more people (and money) are interested in that.

 

[Pavl3n]

Don’t mistake reducing the number of official games for concern over player welfare, they’ll use these breaks to go to Malaysia or Mumbai or wherever someone will pay them for a friendly.

I’d like the league cup with a limit on the number of over, say, 23s, non homegrown players allowed on a team.

That's what I was thinking as well.

With regards the PL dropping to 18 teams - that means 148 games less to be played in the league. Somebody, somewhere could see that as a loss of opportunities and dispute that particular change. Personally I'm for it as I think less games will reduce the fatigue the players accumulate. We saw how quickly our strongest 11 got depleted towards the end of Project Restart.
Liverpool might be thinking the same as their strongest squad is short on quality options in some areas, albeit the purchase of Jota.

4 games less in the league...
Up to 5 games less in the league cup
Up to 1 game less with the community shield

10 games... if they then also said fek the champions league off
6 group games and up to 7 knock out games

Thats 23 games less a season...

25 if you include cl qualifying round

Chuck in a a few games in the winter break and a game or two at the start and end of the season...

And you have enough room for a midweek European super league with the clubs owning the league and TV rights... no uefa ffp rules etc

Thats got to be the long term plan from a financial perspective I think

It would be exciting if they made some sort of Fantasy League. The players' average raiting on the scale of 10 would be their value. 8 or 16 Top performing managers, given 100/150 mil to assemble a squad (can't pick players from your team) and compete in league + knockout. I'd really watch that. Pep reuniting with Messi, Mourinho managing Lewandowski, etc.

 

[sun_tzu]

That's what I was thinking as well.

It would be exciting if they made some sort of Fantasy League. The players' average raiting on the scale of 10 would be their value. 8 or 16 Top performing managers, given 100/150 mil to assemble a squad (can't pick players from your team) and compete in league + knockout. I'd really watch that. Pep reuniting with Messi, Mourinho managing Lewandowski, etc.

I think more likley say 12 clubs (real, barca, Athletico, Bayern, Dortmund, PSG, Juve, Inter, United, Liverpool, City Chelsea for example) play each other home and away plus a series of 3rd games in neutral venues (middle east or far east during the winter break) - each club sells rights to their home games and the neutral games are pooled and split on end league positions or something like that

You would need 33 games to make that happen - easily achievable with midweek only games so no need to interrupt domestic leagues

essentially those clubs become bullet proof franchises guaranteed to dominate their domestic leagues due to finances (most of them do already anyway so no real change) - no UEFA involvement so no FFP and no restrictions on squads / homegrown players.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

The FA Cup gives a lot more opportunity for lower league teams to play better opponents.

Carabao has the lowest viewership of all the competitions the PL clubs participate in and that's why they want to scrap it.

Also, the fact that you like it and don't watch summer tournaments doesn't mean the majority of football watching fans are the same as you. Do you not think that these plans are based on commercial potential? If the big clubs are proposing it, it's because more people (and money) are interested in that.

commercial potential of the big clubs. Of course. At the expense of other clubs, debatably/ probably.

it’s not mutually exclusive between the FA Cup and the League Cup, you can have both, not just the most prestigious one.

I was at the league cup final when Swansea won 4-1, try telling any of their fans that is unimportant, and some pre season friendly cup is more important.

Proposals are just that, and it’s a starting point. It’s a very good time to re-evaluate at the moment.

I wouldn’t swap any of our days out at Wembley winning the league cup for a pre season friendly cup in Saudi Arabia. But there you go.

 

[elmo]

Presumably we are only behind it because its best for the club. On that basis I'm all for it. Every club, no matter their size, is only really out for themselves but its only the big clubs that get castigated for acting in that manner.

Best for the Glazers doesn't mean best for us.

 

[Hughes35]

The league cup would be good if it didn’t feature teams in Europe. Would give the likes of Everton, Wolves and us a decent chance to win silverware.

This is a good idea actually. Also means teams play a similar number of games. Teams in Europe do play too many games currently so reducing the League cup would be a big help. Winner of the cup getting a spot in the Europa the next year.

I don't see the point of cancelling the community shield, it's one game and I think sill raises money for Charity? Also not in favor of reducing the number of teams in the PL.

I do quite like the relegation play off and the idea that some more money goes to lower leagues though.

 

[elmo]

This is a good idea actually. Also means teams play a similar number of games. Teams in Europe do play too many games currently so reducing the League cup would be a big help. Winner of the cup getting a spot in the Europa the next year.

I don't see the point of cancelling the community shield, it's one game and I think sill raises money for Charity? Also not in favor of reducing the number of teams in the PL.

I do quite like the relegation play off and the idea that some more money goes to lower leagues though.

I'll prefer it if the League cup can only feature players not registered for the EPL, so that way you'll only see youth players in it and still give the lower league teams a chance to play the top teams and giving them some TV money.

 

[georgipep]

commercial potential of the big clubs. Of course. At the expense of other clubs, debatably/ probably.

The mention of an obligation for every PL club to participate in a summer tournament every five years is added to ensure smaller PL clubs also get the benefit of the commercial potential, not only the bigger PL clubs. Of course, the non-PL clubs will lose the League Cup revenues but will be reimbursed with the 25% TV revenues sacrifice. I can assure you, that is more important to them than the Carabao Cup participation.

it’s not mutually exclusive between the FA Cup and the League Cup, you can have both, not just the most prestigious one.

I agree, they are making a conscious decision to opt out from the League Cup because of the games overload. If they could have it on top of the other competitions without risking player fatigue and injuries, I am 100% sure they would keep it. In the end, it brings some revenues.

I was at the league cup final when Swansea won 4-1, try telling any of their fans that is unimportant, and some pre season friendly cup is more important.

I am not arguing that point at all. I'm sure a lot of fans are experiencing great moments every year in the League Cup. But that proposal and the decision for it, are not based on what the matchgoing fans want.

Proposals are just that, and it’s a starting point. It’s a very good time to re-evaluate at the moment.

I think the PL is now forced to make changes and counter-offer a reform proposal on their own. I doubt that things will remain the same though. And the majority of this proposal is quite positive for football in England overall.

I wouldn’t swap any of our days out at Wembley winning the league cup for a pre season friendly cup in Saudi Arabia. But there you go.

Again, only a few clubs benefit from the League Cup in any meaningful way. The winners (obviously) and some small clubs that get revenues and exposure. But overall, PL clubs really do not get a lot of value out of it. Especially compared to a pre-season offshore tournament which is sponsored, played at big stadiums and heavily televised (without having to share the revenues with others). It's just a no-brainer from the clubs perspective.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

The re-write on the voting powers is definitely the worst part, as has been mentioned. If this is to bring the pyramid closer together, then perhaps all 90 clubs should have a weighted vote, rather than just 9 of the established elite.

I'm wary about the abolition of parachute payments, and whether or not this will be offset enough by the revenue sharing. You don't want to see PL relegation leading to financial ruin.

Also, the 8% away allocation. That sounds small in those terms, but I have no idea what it is currently.


Other than that, there's a lot of good proposals as a starting point. The PL should definitely have a responsibility to look after everything below which is propping it up, but that hasn't felt to be the case since its inception.

 

[L1nk]

Apparently there is mention of the "Big 6" resigning from the Premier League, make no mistake if United resign from the League, and then there's the possibility of this "Super League" or whatever, I am absolutely done with this club, it's already starting to not resemble the club i grew up and fell in love with but this would be the final straw.

 

[saivet]

Reducing the PL to 18 and the new play off system doesn't make much sense to me. While the Community Shield is a glorified friendly, I think it's a nice thing to have and see little point in scrapping a one off game. I don't think there's much information on it and I'm by no means a follower of it, but I would worry that these plans could damage women's football which I think would be bad for the sport.

The only thing that I'd be on board with is getting rid of the EFL Cup and the PL providing the lower leagues with a larger pool of money.

 

[711]

I'll prefer it if the League cup can only feature players not registered for the EPL, so that way you'll only see youth players in it and still give the lower league teams a chance to play the top teams and giving them some TV money.

Good idea and very simple.

 

[Cloud7]

Apparently there is mention of the "Big 6" resigning from the Premier League, make no mistake if United resign from the League, and then there's the possibility of this "Super League" or whatever, I am absolutely done with this club, it's already starting to not resemble the club i grew up and fell in love with but this would be the final straw.

I don’t think I would be done, but I would definitely be much less interested than I am now. There’s nothing special about United vs Madrid or Bayern if that’s the match that we’re playing every week.

Jokes aside also if we do become part of a super league I’m almost sure we’re going to be one of the worst teams in it and near the bottom of it for a long time

That actually is one of the reasons why I think a super league might never come to fruition, because teams that are relatively at the top right now will end up near the bottom of it, which isn’t really good for attracting new fans and what not, which I don’t think would seem very appealing to the money men. Or maybe I’m just being hopeful.

 

[sun_tzu]

I don’t think I would be done, but I would definitely be much less interested than I am now. There’s nothing special about United vs Madrid or Bayern if that’s the match that we’re playing every week.

Jokes aside also if we do become part of a super league I’m almost sure we’re going to be one of the worst teams in it and near the bottom of it for a long time

That actually is one of the reasons why I think a super league might never come to fruition, because teams that are relatively at the top right now will end up near the bottom of it, which isn’t really good for attracting new fans and what not, which I don’t think would seem very appealing to the money men. Or maybe I’m just being hopeful.

thats why i think it will be a midweek superleague - and it will replace the champions league whilst allowing clubs to remain in their domestic leagues

 

[Hughes35]

I'll prefer it if the League cup can only feature players not registered for the EPL, so that way you'll only see youth players in it and still give the lower league teams a chance to play the top teams and giving them some TV money.

If you do this then it just becomes a youth cup which we already have and literally nobody cares about.

I'd rather scrap it than make it a youth cup tbh.

 

[Ludens the Red]

I really can't see the difference with the situation a few years ago. What were the long term effects other than Chelsea buying a lot of young talents?

Well, the rest of the EFL will get 25% of the PL TV deal, which is more than 3x more than what they currently. So, in result, in my mind that's a much better deal for them. Or do you prefer to put the benefits for two PL clubs in front of the benefits for the 72 other clubs in the EFL?

Most non-matchgoing fans (and they outnumber the matchgoing fans many times) do not really care about the Carabao (especially since they started naming it with silly commercial partner names) Cup and the Community Shield. I do watch the summer friendly tournaments and they bring a lot more revenues for the clubs.

I will give you that, I also agree 100% that this is coming now because of the dire situation the EFL clubs find themselves in. But that's how you make a killing in business. You seize opportunities.

That was just Chelsea doing it, imagine if you had several clubs doing it.
It wasn’t really something other clubs did but make no mistake it was only the rule change coming in that stopped it getting out of control. I have no doubts bigger clubs were looking at Chelseas player laundering scheme and hoping to do the same.

Yeah much better deal now but remember it comes at the expense of all the power and decision making going to a few clubs. Once a few years pass and tv deals and the like are renegotiated with the inevitable rise in income what do you think will then happen?

I think to imply people prefer pre season tournaments to competitive cup football is nonsense, you must be alone on that one. The sole purpose of these pointless games is money. United playing 12 games in the states or Asia in the summer benefits United and the Glazers. So it’s revenue for United.

Like I said previously this is not the end game. It’s only the beginning of the attempted overhaul of our football system. Shouldn’t be looking at this as a business opportunity.
Furthering on from @Munkehboi post.
Will English football still be the draw it is if we get 8 Manchester derbies a season in various pre season tournaments and then when the inevitable league splits happen, another 4-6 Manchester derbies a season in the league.

It is very rare on this site to see a thread where most people agree but if you look through this thread, the overwhelming majority are condemning this new structure and that says a lot.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

The mention of an obligation for every PL club to participate in a summer tournament every five years is added to ensure smaller PL clubs also get the benefit of the commercial potential, not only the bigger PL clubs. Of course, the non-PL clubs will lose the League Cup revenues but will be reimbursed with the 25% TV revenues sacrifice. I can assure you, that is more important to them than the Carabao Cup participation.

I agree, they are making a conscious decision to opt out from the League Cup because of the games overload. If they could have it on top of the other competitions without risking player fatigue and injuries, I am 100% sure they would keep it. In the end, it brings some revenues.

I am not arguing that point at all. I'm sure a lot of fans are experiencing great moments every year in the League Cup. But that proposal and the decision for it, are not based on what the matchgoing fans want.

I think the PL is now forced to make changes and counter-offer a reform proposal on their own. I doubt that things will remain the same though. And the majority of this proposal is quite positive for football in England overall.

Again, only a few clubs benefit from the League Cup in any meaningful way. The winners (obviously) and some small clubs that get revenues and exposure. But overall, PL clubs really do not get a lot of value out of it. Especially compared to a pre-season offshore tournament which is sponsored, played at big stadiums and heavily televised (without having to share the revenues with others). It's just a no-brainer from the clubs perspective.

It’s an interesting perspective you have. I don’t deny that this will have a commercial benefit.

however, that’s not why I watch football. Football is a community sport.

to dismiss the league club as benefiting very few clubs is complete BS. When a L2 or L1 team play a top club, it can keep them afloat for the next 12 months. You can say that’s replaced by moremoney coming through, but you are denying those clubs another opportunity to play against bigger teams, that’s what keeps clubs going, those special matches, the thrill of being the underdog. That’s not something to throw away.

I’m not on board with a pre season tournament, it does nothing except bring in revenue, and I won’t be watching it. Football fans won’t care who is the winner of the Ethiad Cup.

the issue here, is that clubs can only extract so much money and goodwill from fans. I won’t be tuning in, and couldn’t care less about any friendly matches.

this has the potential to lead to the end of the PL. will be interesting to know who long this has been cooking for, and why only 2 clubs are involved.

has a very high chance of backfiring.

Re-evaluation is no bad thing. But think this has the potential to go pretty badly wrong for Liverpool and United.

 

[Devil may care]

• £100 million one-off gift to the FA to cover its coronavirus losses, the non-league game, the women’s game, the grassroots
• 8.5 per cent of annual net Premier League revenue to go on operating costs and “good causes” including the FA
• From the remainder, 25 per cent of all combined Premier League and Football League revenues to go to the EFL clubs
• Six per cent of Premier League gross revenues to pay for stadium improvements across the top four divisions, calculated at £100 per seat
• New rules for the distribution of Premier League television income, overseas and domestic, including proposals that base one portion on performance over three years in the league
• The abolition of the League Cup and the Community Shield
• 24 clubs each in the Championship, League One and League Two reducing the professional game overall from 92 clubs to 90
• A women's professional league independent of the Premier League or the FA
• Two sides automatically relegated from the Premier League every season and the top two Championship teams promoted. The 16th place Premier League club in a play-off tournament with the Championship’s third, fourth and fifth placed teams.
• Financial fair play regulations in line with Uefa, and full access for Premier League executive to club accounts
• A fan charter including capping of away tickets at £20, away travel subsidised, a focus on a return to safe standing, a minimum away allocation of eight per cent.

I like all of these ideas.

 

[Crustanoid]

As long as it stops and reverses the financially doped clubs. Chelsea and City (ie takes them back to the position they should be in, resource wise), there’s some potential in this

 

[Cloud7]

this has the potential to lead to the end of the PL. will be interesting to know who long this has been cooking for, and why only 2 clubs are involved.

It’s no coincidence where the owners of the two clubs spearheading this come from.

 

[711]

If you do this then it just becomes a youth cup which we already have and literally nobody cares about.

I'd rather scrap it than make it a youth cup tbh.

This would make sense if the the rest of the 92 clubs had registered players for Europe as well.

 

[Champ]

I think the proposals look well thought out and quite fair to all.
I do wonder had Leicester and West Brom come up with these proposals, whether there would be similar outcry to what's happening now?

 

[Grande]

That was just Chelsea doing it, imagine if you had several clubs doing it.
It wasn’t really something other clubs did but make no mistake it was only the rule change coming in that stopped it getting out of control. I have no doubts bigger clubs were looking at Chelseas player laundering scheme and hoping to do the same.

Yeah much better deal now but remember it comes at the expense of all the power and decision making going to a few clubs. Once a few years pass and tv deals and the like are renegotiated with the inevitable rise in income what do you think will then happen?

I think to imply people prefer pre season tournaments to competitive cup football is nonsense, you must be alone on that one. The sole purpose of these pointless games is money. United playing 12 games in the states or Asia in the summer benefits United and the Glazers. So it’s revenue for United.

Like I said previously this is not the end game. It’s only the beginning of the attempted overhaul of our football system. Shouldn’t be looking at this as a business opportunity.
Furthering on from @Munkehboi post.
Will English football still be the draw it is if we get 8 Manchester derbies a season in various pre season tournaments and then when the inevitable league splits happen, another 4-6 Manchester derbies a season in the league.

It is very rare on this site to see a thread where most people agree but if you look through this thread, the overwhelming majority are condemning this new structure and that says a lot.

I agree this is not the endgame but a ground for negotiation. What jars the eye most, is the Superclub Status shit with nine ‘Elders’ getting extra voting power. It’s so anti-democratic that it looks more than anything like something provocatory to withdraw from thetable at an opportune moment in order for a lot of the more moderate suggestions to go through.

 

[Uniquim]

4 games less in the league...
Up to 5 games less in the league cup
Up to 1 game less with the community shield

10 games... if they then also said fek the champions league off
6 group games and up to 7 knock out games

Thats 23 games less a season...

25 if you include cl qualifying round

Chuck in a a few games in the winter break and a game or two at the start and end of the season...

And you have enough room for a midweek European super league with the clubs owning the league and TV rights... no uefa ffp rules etc

Thats got to be the long term plan from a financial perspective I think

Rather than a European Super League, I think it would be an expanded CL taking a lot of the open fixture slots. Think this suggestion would set up the big six to usher through future changes to the PL to accommodate that.

There's also been a push to move Champions League games to the weekend, which is likely to happen first. Which would mean the smaller clubs in the league would miss out on their highest grossing weekdays.

Then in the future, if there happens to an expansion of the CL, and other European competitions, then only 6 of the 9 longest-serving clubs would have to vote in favour to push through a change in the PL. 6 of the 9 clubs that would have guaranteed voting rights also happens to be the big six clubs that are usually in contention to qualify. (West Ham, Southampton & Everton are the other 3). UEFA Conference League would possibly incentivize the other voting clubs too, given that up to 10 clubs could qualify for European competitions, meaning it would be easier to push through changes to accommodate European competitions.

 

[Sara125]

I’m reading it and it just sounds like one big money ploy for the top clubs while throwing in a few perks for the lower leagues in attempt to dress it up

 

[Murray3007]

• £100 million one-off gift to the FA to cover its coronavirus losses, the non-league game, the women’s game, the grassroots
• 8.5 per cent of annual net Premier League revenue to go on operating costs and “good causes” including the FA
• From the remainder, 25 per cent of all combined Premier League and Football League revenues to go to the EFL clubs
• Six per cent of Premier League gross revenues to pay for stadium improvements across the top four divisions, calculated at £100 per seat
• New rules for the distribution of Premier League television income, overseas and domestic, including proposals that base one portion on performance over three years in the league
• The abolition of the League Cup and the Community Shield
• 24 clubs each in the Championship, League One and League Two reducing the professional game overall from 92 clubs to 90
• A women's professional league independent of the Premier League or the FA
• Two sides automatically relegated from the Premier League every season and the top two Championship teams promoted. The 16th place Premier League club in a play-off tournament with the Championship’s third, fourth and fifth placed teams.
• Financial fair play regulations in line with Uefa, and full access for Premier League executive to club accounts
• A fan charter including capping of away tickets at £20, away travel subsidised, a focus on a return to safe standing, a minimum away allocation of eight per cent capacity
• Later Premier League start in August to give greater scope for pre-season friendlies, and requirement for all clubs to compete once every five years in a summer Premier League tournament
• Huge changes to loan system allowing clubs to have 15 players out on loan domestically at any one time and up to four at a single club in England

some excellent idea's but at what cost to football to football here, straight away 2 clubs would be losing out, also would then stop new owners coming in with money, basically would never have a Chelsea or City scenario again, all the leagues should be under one banner, everyone should get the same amount of votes, the league cup is part of the history of this country maybe tweeks rather then just scrapping it like clubs in Europe don't enter it and the winner gets Europe next season, not sure it works with making the league shorter so that they can fly off more to some friendly's in Dubai etc, actually think they should be saying there is a 10 year plan after that no club should be running with debts, enough money floating about that it should not be needed. don't have aproblem with the loan system but think it should be aged capped, no player over 22ish should be going out on loans, also don't think the loaning club should be paying the wages of players on loan. also like the idea of every player having a release clause so don't get the arguments about player transfers, you no the price and that's final.

 

[gorky_utd]

So this is what Woodward was doing all summer instead of buying Sancho. Next, they will demand 90 percent of all overseas tv money to be distributed between them. For overseas fans like us, they will probably want to force some live pl matches exclusive to their club app. I am pretty sure Woodward is now planning something that will guarantee UCL money every season. A lot of money has been invested in youth players this season probably just to sell them for a profit. Glazers don't care about football. Look at what they have done to United, now imagine they have control over Pl.

 

[Uniquim]

So this is what Woodward was doing all summer instead of buying Sancho. Next, they will demand 90 percent of all overseas tv money to be distributed between them. For overseas fans like us, they will probably want to force some live pl matches exclusive to their club app. I am pretty sure Woodward is now planning something that will guarantee UCL money every season. A lot of money has been invested in youth players this season probably just to sell them for a profit. Glazers don't care about football. Look at what they have done to United, now imagine they have control over Pl.

Actually part of the suggestion mentioned something along those lines:
"Clubs would also be allowed to sell exclusive rights to eight of their live matches per season direct to supporters via digital platforms in all international territories."

 

[Murray3007]

The FA Cup gives a lot more opportunity for lower league teams to play better opponents.

Carabao has the lowest viewership of all the competitions the PL clubs participate in and that's why they want to scrap it.

Also, the fact that you like it and don't watch summer tournaments doesn't mean the majority of football watching fans are the same as you. Do you not think that these plans are based on commercial potential? If the big clubs are proposing it, it's because more people (and money) are interested in that.

based on money and nothing else, will be a bit misleading due to in being held in different parts of the world so fans will obviosuly flock to see it, if you done the league cup games in these country's they would sell out as well and make good money as well, but will really just be friendly matches.

 

[Tiber]

An excellent US owner and an awful US owner trying to shake up all of Engish football? what could go wrong?

 

[JohnnyKills]

Money.

Yeah. This is really about the big clubs a) getting more TV money and b) being able to play in more lucrative pre-season tournaments. All the rest is just window dressing, at least that's how it looks to me.

 

[padr81]

That was just Chelsea doing it, imagine if you had several clubs doing it.
It wasn’t really something other clubs did but make no mistake it was only the rule change coming in that stopped it getting out of control. I have no doubts bigger clubs were looking at Chelseas player laundering scheme and hoping to do the same.

Yeah much better deal now but remember it comes at the expense of all the power and decision making going to a few clubs. Once a few years pass and tv deals and the like are renegotiated with the inevitable rise in income what do you think will then happen?

I think to imply people prefer pre season tournaments to competitive cup football is nonsense, you must be alone on that one. The sole purpose of these pointless games is money. United playing 12 games in the states or Asia in the summer benefits United and the Glazers. So it’s revenue for United.

Like I said previously this is not the end game. It’s only the beginning of the attempted overhaul of our football system. Shouldn’t be looking at this as a business opportunity.
Furthering on from @Munkehboi post.
Will English football still be the draw it is if we get 8 Manchester derbies a season in various pre season tournaments and then when the inevitable league splits happen, another 4-6 Manchester derbies a season in the league.

It is very rare on this site to see a thread where most people agree but if you look through this thread, the overwhelming majority are condemning this new structure and that says a lot.

You've made some great posts in this thread. Just wanted to say fair play, I've enjoyed reading them all.

 

[krautrøck]

Looking forward to the first English franchise club moving to a more lucrative city.

 

[gorky_utd]

Actually part of the suggestion mentioned something along those lines:
"Clubs would also be allowed to sell exclusive rights to eight of their live matches per season direct to supporters via digital platforms in all international territories."

I can see them moving all the matches between top 6 as premium content and app exclusive if this happens with matches against lesser teams available on tv.

 

[GameOn]

I love the idea of it.

Unfortunately I don't think it has any chance of going through.

Too many oldschoolers in charge, that will vote "NO!" without even looking at all the ideas, just because it is something new.

 

[Havak]

Some good, some bad, but I don't think it's possible to make everyone happy anyway.

I don't really like or see why the Premier League needs to be 18 teams instead of 20, especially if there would be no League Cup. I've personally thought trying to make it 20 teams per league would have been better, but removing 12 teams from the professional league is obviously a step too far. I would have actually preferred if they could just make it five pro leagues and 100 clubs since 92 was rather close anyway... Would have thought the amount of money the Premier League would be passing down could facilitate that.

The loan one I'm also a bit iffy on... It's good, but I expect that some clubs would form relationships with others more easily (eg. Salford loaning Man Utd players more often and more at once eventually). I can imagine some clubs would think this was unfair if certain clubs have easier access to better loan.

 

[Maticmaker]

With the backing of two sets of American Owners involved its not hard to guess who will benefit most, it wont be football overall, or even I suspect the fans of both clubs.

The changes suggested are relative modest, but this is not the end of the changes, only the beginning. United and Liverpool are probably the two most 'wanted' clubs in terms of TV/Media viewing across the world, but they still need a competitive backdrop, the real question is will this move 'kill the golden goose', its harder to get in and you get nothing when you do leave, seems like we know the answer already, but it won't matter, even if this plan gets kicked out, another plan will be coming along soon, probably during or after the next WC 2022 (remember its in Qatar in winter and will dislodge most major leagues in Europe, for three seasons!).

The 'three ringed' professional football circus is on its way, Celebrity Kick-offs; Adverts on during VAR deliberations; with water breaks becoming the norm then the game of 'two halves' becomes the game of 'four quarters'... more time for adverts!

 

[rotherham_red]

If this goes through, any hope of the Glazers leaving will be gone.

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

This is even worse ideas than giving David Moyes the job back for us. Seeing as it is Glaziers proposing it maybe we will see Moyes back soon or Steve bruce?

 

[90 + 5min]

This should be put in garbage by government. If they even care about people and its sport they should intervene.