Why would Pogba go there? Reports saying Mbappe isnt even going there next summer.
They have a habit of trying to keep their galatico rep by linking thenselves to other clubs players and not signing them
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They have a habit of trying to keep their galatico rep by linking thenselves to other clubs players and not signing them
I wasn't being serious on that. But if you want a valid reason, Pogba said it's a dream to play for Real you know and Zidane likes him.
He needs to resign.Now or after the last match of the Champions group, with or without qualification.
This has already looked bad for a while.
edit: he said in press conference that is not going to resign
This has already looked bad for a while.
edit: he said in press conference that is not going to resign
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Pogba should be kicked out come next season to whichever direction he wants to head to be it psg, juventus or real. I wouldn't mind selling him to Liverpool or City even.... why should only we suffer.
Yeah but he isnt off to Madrid. Why make his 2016 mistake all over again, especially when we are now going places.
All the sides hes linked with are levels below what they were which is bad news for the player who is only praised for making good sides great
Zidane just needs to figure out a way to play Inter in the last match, i guess.
I'm not sure he thinks that way. He's currently not even confident of playing regularly for United. I'm sure he'll value playing as a starter in another big club regardless of us winning even the treble or not when he's going to be on the bench mostly.
While Madrid may not make a move for Pogba, if comes the end of the season and Pogba stayed as a bench option for us, he'll push to leave, regardless of what we'll do this season.
Neither Zidane nor Koeman will finish the season I believe.
Though I'm not sure where will Madrid go post Zidane. Last time he left the next manager failed miserably and they had to bring him back to steady the ship. It'll be a travesty if they hired Poch and then 1 year later ended up running to Zidane again to get the job for the third time.
Though I'm not sure where will Madrid go post Zidane. Last time he left the next manager failed miserably and they had to bring him back to steady the ship. It'll be a travesty if they hired Poch and then 1 year later ended up running to Zidane again to get the job for the third time.
Honestly, if you were him why would you quit? If he's fired, which is looking more and more likely, he gets a pay off. Why sacrifice it? If it all goes completely to crap cash is the only silver lining to the situation.
It would not be a huge surprise if ZZ gets sacked and comes back in a season or two though, would it?
Agree. One or other could even be gone by Christmas.
I think Poch goes to RM and does well.
Zidane is perfect for the world class big ego players RM have. In terms of tactics and coaching he's never been that amazing I think.
Real Madrid is a very difficult dressing room as Mourinho, Benitez and Lopetegui found out.
Zidane has the respect and he's perfect coach for RM in that way.
First time in a while United are arguably a better prospect than Madrid.
How much credit does winning the league title the previous season give Zidane?
Ironically we were in 2009 too before Ronnie left
Edit: In 2009/10 we were arguably the better team too, but they shot way ahead of us since
Very little if they end up in the Europa League I would guess. For a club like Real that's true embarrassment.
2010/11 we made the final and won the league. The following year is when they won La Liga.Ironically we were in 2009 too before Ronnie left
Edit: In 2009/10 we were arguably the better team too, but they shot way ahead of us since
I’m still convinced they wouldn’t look anywhere near this bad if they had someone competent upfront. If Ronaldo was still at the club, he would solve the majority of their problems - (at least until they signed someone like Mbappe) as he’s still capable of carrying a club even at his advanced age as seen in Italy. Also, this Madrid squad is still actually pretty decent minus the attack.
You could make a case for Zidane not to be sacked given he has "an ageing squad mixed with young and inconsistent players and he had no transfer window". I don't think he will get sacked this season. Maybe the next once Madrid splash cash and still underperforming
They spend nearly 400m two summers ago!
It doesn't really matter who they hire - players make teams and Madrid are going through a rebuild with the world class stars ageing and the new ones not really showing much yet. Unless the youngsters start improving rapidly then they need a wizard in the transfer market - those are rare to come by.
Once upon a time Real could've bought the very best in Ronaldo and Bale for £80m - nowadays those players in the likes of Mbappe cost £150m and the very best like the likes of Mane are unnaitanable - it means both Real and Barca find it harder to build world class squads. The rise of the financial wealth of the PL over the last ten years means that they can't simply poach the best from that league unless the player wants to leave and they pay massive sums of money. They've signed Hazard and Griezzman for £120m each but neither can hold a candle to the likes of Ronaldo and Bale (Hazard maybe in his prime but not the budget version Madrid have received)
Once upon a time Real could've bought the very best in Ronaldo and Bale for £80m - nowadays those players in the likes of Mbappe cost £150m and the very best like the likes of Mane are unnaitanable - it means both Real and Barca find it harder to build world class squads. The rise of the financial wealth of the PL over the last ten years means that they can't simply poach the best from that league unless the player wants to leave and they pay massive sums of money. They've signed Hazard and Griezzman for £120m each but neither can hold a candle to the likes of Ronaldo and Bale (Hazard maybe in his prime but not the budget version Madrid have received)
I think they should back him, unless they don't actually trust him to be able to manage a team that isn't anywhere close to peaking in its current state. It's clearly a team that needs time and not to be expected to be unstoppable right now.
It's 355m. Looking at the players they bought - 125m on 3 raw teenagers from weak leagues, 115m on Hazard that has been injured all through and 63m on Jovic that's hardly getting game time That's 303m wasted on players that didn't impact the team.
. Come to think of it why don't people talk more about the money Madrid spent in that summer that hasn't translated on the pitchHazard has been revelaed to be close to a 150m transfer believe it or not.It's 355m. Looking at the players they bought - 125m on 3 raw teenagers from weak leagues, 115m on Hazard that has been injured all through and 63m on Jovic that's hardly getting game time That's 303m wasted on players that didn't impact the team.
Apparently Florentino says that Zidane is the most honest person he has ever met in the world of football.
As a player, he resigned the last year of his contract. He already left once with a contract, and I think that if he were unable to overcome this he would leave without waiting to be fired, but of course, it is an assumption, based on what he has done in the past, and on his possible future within the club .
None.
Poch back on the radar ?
A few days ago a journalist from SER said that Zidane thought that this was the most difficult dressing room he had ever had, and that he noticed bad faces when giving the line-ups. Less unity among other things.
Perhaps there is a certain fatigue among the players. The journalist Antón Meana is quite colchonero so I don't know to what extent it is true.
I see last season as getting the last bit out of an aging squad. We saw what they were like after Zidane left and he managed to bring them back to win the league again, he's proved to be the man to get the best out of them but if can't now then maybe there's nothing left for some of the players and a new manager won't change things. Now he needs a new bunch of players but maybe they don't like his plans or see another manager doing better with a new squad built with less funds for the next few years like Poch for example.
I still don't know why he accepted to come back to Real. He could have kept his reputation intact.
His performance without Ronaldo look meh though, he got basically the same team when he joined but Real is unable to perform and no one fears them anymore. Yes he won the league last season but against a Barcelona that is crashing and burning faster than Real. Real isn't, of course, the best place to take judgements from as they are specialists in internal turmoil.
His performance without Ronaldo look meh though, he got basically the same team when he joined but Real is unable to perform and no one fears them anymore. Yes he won the league last season but against a Barcelona that is crashing and burning faster than Real. Real isn't, of course, the best place to take judgements from as they are specialists in internal turmoil.
That was more of a fluke. Tells you a lot when Courtious was the best player in their last 8 matches of the season
A bald and relatively young man with minimal managerial experience emerges out of nowhere and becomes the manager of a world class Spanish top team that he previously played for. He shocks everyone by producing world class results with his world class team, only to be called a Pep Guardiola is my idol the moment he has to manage a slightly weaker team and thus can't perform to his initial level.
Where have I heard that story before?
Where have I heard that story before?
Looks like rebuilds are not easy even if money bags Madrid are struggling.
He won the league last season.
Resign ? What manager resigns and misses out on a pay out
A draw and I think they'd be o.k, would mean Donetsk have to win at San Siro which is possible but not guaranteed at all. And Inter would finish below them on head to head (they'll really be kicking themselves at not even getting one draw off this Real Madrid as they'd be in very strong position now).
I'd be surprised if they sack him in next week. Pretty inevitable they will if they go to europa but Inter winning v Gladbach has ironically helped them a bit.
Donetsk are level on points with Real and they beat them twice. If Real draw/lose then a draw is enough for Donetsk.
Indeed you're right. Makes it more tense then unless Inter just spoil things and go 3 up by half time.
I think they do not have the world class quality around no more.
Ramos getting old and hazard looks past it.
The midfield is too old as well.
Ramos getting old and hazard looks past it.
The midfield is too old as well.
I keep hearing they need to rebuild their squad but their old players are still clearly their best players. Modric, Ramos, Benzema, Carvajal, Casemiro are regularly the best players. It's the young players and new signings that have mostly failed.
Zidane will take the blame but Florentino is at fault. Madrid should always aim to win everything, every single year. That's the expectation from the fans. He wanted to build his own team in his own way and sacrificed the short term for it which is inexcusable. And it's even more inexcusable because the signings for the long term haven't even proved to be very successful either.
Their transfer markets have been awful since 2017 or so. They were winning CL title after CL title then so noone cared but the decline started with the decisions made when they were at their best. They got very lucky that Barca have also declined massively and that their board managed to do even worse, that saved the Madrid board from a lot of criticism.
Zidane will take the blame but Florentino is at fault. Madrid should always aim to win everything, every single year. That's the expectation from the fans. He wanted to build his own team in his own way and sacrificed the short term for it which is inexcusable. And it's even more inexcusable because the signings for the long term haven't even proved to be very successful either.
Their transfer markets have been awful since 2017 or so. They were winning CL title after CL title then so noone cared but the decline started with the decisions made when they were at their best. They got very lucky that Barca have also declined massively and that their board managed to do even worse, that saved the Madrid board from a lot of criticism.
I think that's far too harsh. They've secured a lot of talent and some of them will turn into great players or already are. Pound for pound their team is still one of the best in the world and should be doing much better than they are.
Madrid obviously believed their cycle had come to an end which is why they initiated the rebuilt. And that wasn't an unreasonable assumption back then since their third title in a row was very flattering. They were far from the best team in that tournament and also far from being the team they used to be in the previous years. It's also not as if they sold the whole squad. They let Ronaldo leave but kept key players like Kroos, Modric, Marcelo and Ramos. This squad could be a team with a brillant mixture of seasoned players and highly gifted youngsters.
Time might have come for Zidane to leave. They're clearly underperforming for a while now.