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I wish the video posted in here started with that. That is where the goal is made for me.Didn’t AWB give Pogba an atrocious pass when it was easier to pass to feet?
I wish the video posted in here started with that. That is where the goal is made for me.Didn’t AWB give Pogba an atrocious pass when it was easier to pass to feet?
If Lindelof didn't leave the front post we wouldn't have had an issue at all.He absolutely was at fault. The ball was near him, he could have cleared it easily if he didn't switch off.
Saying that, De Gea could (and should) have been more aggressive there and not allow the goal to happen.
At least this image will come in handy when my hypothetical children are old enough to start asking awkward questions like "what's a fanny?"
Unreal isn't it? why is he turning his back on little 5'7 Kluivert?! imagine big Pete or VDS in that situation they'd be taking the ball and the man.At least this image will come in handy when my hypothetical children are old enough to start asking awkward questions like "what's a fanny?"
It's a consequences of mistakes and brainless defending, but the bolded one is basics.What?!? You don’t let the ball run across your box when you don’t know what’s behind you. He should be kicking that in to row Z or at least throwing everything at it to stop it going across. Just knock it out of play.
When it’s passed him which it should never do then he’s DeGea should be taking all of that but come on. Maguire is the first and worst mistake there.
Yes. If not 100%It’s 99% on De Gea for me. Too slow to react, too cowardly when he finally does.
Not to mention he literally walks off and leaves 2 strikers standing in the middle of the box to mark somebody further away from goal, leaving maguire 2v1.Lindelof was more at fault as he passed the ball to the oppostion to set them on the attack. Pogba failed to tackle back and then Lindelof left his man who Maguire followed. The deflection then took it past Maguire whilst Williams let his man go who scored. DDG is most at fault for me because despite all that it's meat and drink for the keeper to take that ball.
No, the goalkeeper should manage it, since he’s the one that has the full view of the situation. Maguire hasn’t got eyes in the back of his head. Gk should organise his defence, it’s just weak goalkeeping. Silent as a mouse then stands there while a player roams in to his six yard area.He slows down as if he's expecting De Gea to claim it. It doesn't look like that's communicated though. I'd have rather he kept running at it and just hoofed it into the stands for a corner.
Maguire should shout for the keeper to come if that's his intention. De Gea should have been alert and not glued to his line anyway, but he's probably never going to stop doing that. Williams should have sensed that Maguire was marking two players and to get tight to Kluivert behind him who he couldn't see. Or give him a shout at least.
But De Gea should still be winning that ball regardless of communication. Kluivert taps it in on the edge of the 6 yard box after sprinting from the edge of the 18 yard box. De Gea just had to step forward and dive on it or boot it clear.
I'd peg it all on 3 of them than anyone one individually. A defence is a unit. Communication is key, and I don't think Maguire tells De Gea to come, nor does it appear Williams communicates anything about Kluivert. It was a shambles from all of them.
De Gea really bottles that challenge. There's no way Oblak or Neuer don't sweep that up.
He did the right thing by going to the intended target of the cross but the ball took a deflection.
Williams should have been covering the man behind him.
DDG should have been stronger and swept up the loose ball.
Fair play. I lambasted Maguire last night because it looked like a shocking leave. But looking at it from the angle it’s hard to blame Maguire due to that huge deflection.
He did the right thing by going to the intended target of the cross but the ball took a deflection.
Williams should have been covering the man behind him.
DDG should have been stronger and swept up the loose ball.
Yeah he pussied right out it looks like... but to be fair he should never have been put into that position.De Gea really bottles that challenge. There's no way Oblak or Neuer don't sweep that up.
The whole point of the thread is to highlight that the ball was deflected out of his path so he couldn't have got to it. Watch the video.However, Maguire shouldn't switch off the moment he misses the ball – if he moves forward he'd be able to block the ball, for example
I think Maguire is the least at fault over De Gea and Williams. He obviously can't see Kluivert, and De Gea and Williams can. But still, some sort of gesture from Maguire to indicate he's letting it come across him for De Gea to claim would have been useful. Particularly as Maguire runs towards the ball, and then stops. It looks like he wants to clear it, and then changes his mind.No, the goalkeeper should manage it, since he’s the one that has the full view of the situation. Maguire hasn’t got eyes in the back of his head. Gk should organise his defence, it’s just weak goalkeeping. Silent as a mouse then stands there while a player roams in to his six yard area.
The state of this goal, my god. I can’t stop replaying the video, it’s like watching a car crash in slow motion.
I disagree actually. Watching that clip a few times and I feel he had enough time to at least get a foot on that and put it out for a safe corner.The whole point of the thread is to highlight that the ball was deflected out of his path so he couldn't have got to it. Watch the video.
So you think he just thought 'ahh feck it, it'll work out somehow'.I disagree actually. Watching that clip a few times and I feel he had enough time to at least get a foot on that and put it out for a safe corner.
Exactly, baffling and not the only time his done that. It's like he refuses to learn from his mistakes cause Fernandes will bail him out.As I said in the lindelof thread.
Lindelof should stay central with Maguire to mark the 2 men in the box, leave the wide runner to Mctominay or Pogba to track down the side.
Why he feels the need to vacate the danger zone to track a man that is frankly very little threat at that point?
I've never known a central defender to make such odd decision making.
I think he leaves it to De Gea because he wasn't up for taking the risk. But a stronger mind (and captain) would have taken the responsibility to himself and at least made all effort to put it out of play.So you think he just thought 'ahh feck it, it'll work out somehow'.
100% agree and for a captain to duck that responsibility is really, really shameful. We brought him in to lead because we had too few leaders. Over and over he has failed at that.I think he leaves it to De Gea because he wasn't up for taking the risk. But a stronger mind (and captain) would have taken the responsibility to himself and at least made all effort to put it out of play.
Granted, De Gea should also have been prepared for the leave and be ready to collect it, no matter how many players he has to clatter. But De Gea is also mentally weak. As is Lindelof and AWB and Shaw and Jones and ugh I give up.
I don't really know what people expected Maguire to do there. There was no way he could get to that.
Seriously, lads? He slowed down deliberately and left it behind. I know he's slow but the ball was easy to boot in the stands or just nod it for a corner. The ball didn't travel at ferocious speed either. It's blatantly obvious he left it for the keeper, without zero awareness of who is behind him.The whole point of the thread is to highlight that the ball was deflected out of his path so he couldn't have got to it. Watch the video.
Oh, I did watch the video multiple times – and he certainly could've. And he also could've done something after the fact, which I also specified in my comment.The whole point of the thread is to highlight that the ball was deflected out of his path so he couldn't have got to it. Watch the video.