Maguire wasn't at fault for the goal

[thepolice123]

He did the right thing by going to the intended target of the cross but the ball took a deflection.

Williams should have been covering the man behind him.

DDG should have been stronger and swept up the loose ball.

 

[El Zoido]

It’s 99% on De Gea for me. Too slow to react, too cowardly when he finally does.

 

[Slevs]

I still think Henderson swoops the ball up 10 times out of 10 times in that scenario.
DDG always has this weird mental block that he shouldn't come off his line for anything.

 

[Dante]

He was marking two players and picked heads just as the coin landed on tails.

It looked bad, but there's only so much he could have done.

 

[Rightnr]

Let's find more excuses for our 80-million, bang-average, arrested-in-Greece, timid-as-a-mouse English darling.

He doesn't defend crosses and does not command. He's not worth 40m to anyone with eyes.

 

[Lyricist]

Bad organisation in the first place, but I agree that Maguire's run makes sense.
Also makes sense to me that he doesn't want to jump and try to still get onto the ball (even if unlikely), as he might make it harder for De Gea or might put it into the net himself.

De Gea was incredibly slow to react though and even the way he turns his body away from Kluivert is just not enough. Afraid to get hit in a collision and thus not making himself big enough to stop the chip.

 

[Nick7]

100% De Gea for me. Maguire didn’t cover himself in glory, but with a strong keeper that gets picked up and Kluivert doesn’t get a chance to touch the ball.

 

[Member 90887]

Let's find more excuses for our 80-million, bang-average, arrested-in-Greece, timid-as-a-mouse English darling.

He doesn't defend crosses and does not command. He's not worth 40m to anyone with eyes.

Very funny.

What would you have him do there since you're an expert defender ?

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Big deflection but still certain Ekeke blames him.

 

[El Zoido]

Let's find more excuses for our 80-million, bang-average, arrested-in-Greece, timid-as-a-mouse English darling.

He doesn't defend crosses and does not command. He's not worth 40m to anyone with eyes.

He’s had dog’s abuse since he joined, I don’t know what your point is. He’s one of the most hated United played I’ve ever seen, yet you talk like everyone is making excuses for him. They are not. Yet it’s very clear from the clip above that the ball takes a significant deflection, while he’s trying to manage two attackers either side of him. He’s made some big mistakes but this one really isn’t on him.

 

[Dan_F]

Once he made his mind to go towards the defender in front of him, he should have cleared the ball. The only excuse for not doing that was if DDG had clearly called for him to leave it. I would also assume that after 18 months of playing together, Maguire knows that DDG is probably not coming off his line, which is a huge problem as we all know.

Also, shout out to Lindelof for the misplaced two yard pass beforehand.

 

[youngrell]

De Gea should have been on his side sliding and holding the ball into his torso there. Zero chance of a foul/penalty (more likely a free kick if he gets kicked) and zero chance of the ball being lifted over him.

Too slow and too scared.

 

[thebelfastboy]

Maguires body movement shows that he's shielding and leaving it for De Gea. Criminal from our captain. Yes De Gea screwed up but the ball never should've got to him. Maguire allowed it to come into a dangerous area without making any attempt to stop it block it.

 

[Cutch]

 

[Adam-Utd]

As I said in the lindelof thread.

Lindelof should stay central with Maguire to mark the 2 men in the box, leave the wide runner to Mctominay or Pogba to track down the side.

Why he feels the need to vacate the danger zone to track a man that is frankly very little threat at that point?

I've never known a central defender to make such odd decision making.

 

[fps]

DeGea has certainly not played his part in organising a defence. It is a weakness he has not addressed.

 

[MattofManchester]

I think both are at fault. It's a complete lack of communication. If De Gea is not asserting that he's coming for the ball, then Maguire should have no surety he will. He kinda just expects him to, really.

Also, watching Pogba and Lindelof there, our defending is really weird. Lindelof is covering the man Pogba should be covering, so Maguire comes forward. That leaves the guy who scored completely unmarked in the box in the first place.

 

[Smores]

Am i watching a different video or something?

No one is saying he should be marking the other man but if you're the defender stood where he is you have to make every effort to stop that ball going across the box. I fail to see why he didn't make an effort, he doesn't know at that point if De Gea could get to it. Sunday league stuff.

 

[AaronRedDevil]

Don’t think it’s Williams fault either, he marking the guy behind him in case as well, otherwise he’ll be wide open. Given how close the ball was to DDG, Maguire was right to assume he would just pick it up, but maybe Maguire should have cleared. Reckon everyone is equally too blame. But I feel like Henderson would have done better in this situation.

 

[#07]

He did the right thing by going to the intended target of the cross but the ball took a deflection.

Williams should have been covering the man behind him.

DDG should have been stronger and swept up the loose ball.

The ball rolls past his right leg. If he swings his foot at it its cleared rather than rolls to Kluivert.

Its poor from Maguire and then De Gea bottles sweeping up after him.

One of these is an £80m defender, the other our best paid player. Says a lot.

 

[Wilt]

He did the right thing by going to the intended target of the cross but the ball took a deflection.

Williams should have been covering the man behind him.

DDG should have been stronger and swept up the loose ball.

If as he should have done, DeGea dived onto the ball, then there’s no goal. Cowardly keeping as I see it.

 

[El B]

So CB's don't need to defend crosses anymore? Stick out a leg or move towards the ball. Do something instead of let it run across you, with your back to play, with no idea of who is behind you, on the edge of the 6 yard box. It's shocking.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Shit show that goal, you can see fault in Maguire, DDG and Williams. Just a really poor goal to concede... all their goals were.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

This is the worst I've seen us defending in... probably since I started supporting United. We're horrendous at defending. I wonder if its because we have the man who relelgated Cardiff at the helm? Its almost as if he can't organise the defence.

 

[Kerry Donaghy]

I agree 100%, I am by no means Maguire's biggest fan but I think the people blaming him for the third goal are missing two key points, possession and time.
Fact is, we were 2-0 down with not long to go so I genuinely think Maguire assumed De Gea would be aware of this (although that's possibly an error to assume that) as 99.99% of goalkeepers would be in that situation.
Surely letting the ball roll back to your keeper and us retaining possession is a better option in that situation than Maguire giving possession away by aimlessly hoofing it clear or out for a corner.
I would blame Maguire if the ball had been fired across the box at pace and he just left it but the fact is, the deflection took all the sting out of it and it was the goalkeepers ball all day long in my opinion.
The most worrying thing is that this is not a one off, this happens pretty much every time a cross comes near De Gea, he may as well not be there.
Ive been saying this for years now but I'm genuinely baffled as to how our coaching staff (who are paid to analyse these things) cannot see how much of a problem this.

 

[Sky1981]

1st. Safety first

2nd. Bad judgment to the very least.


3rd. It's too far for de gea to rush out.

 

[ThinkTank@Cafe]

DDG is the main reason our defense is so shaky. Maguire is not a £80M defender but is still valuable for the team.

 

[Greck]

Sorry but the rule for defenders is you clear that if;
- you're not sure what's behind you
- the keeper shouts otherwise that he's coming to collect it

The whole point of it is to prevent what happened on that 3rd goal. If not we would see goals like this every week because De Gea isn't the only keeper in europe who's timid. I get that Maguire is used to having Kasper Schmeichel hoover it but he's been here for a year

 

[pablo__p]

Shit show that goal, you can see fault in Maguire, DDG and Williams. Just a really poor goal to concede... all their goals were.

On top of that it all started from Lindelof wasting possession with an abysmal pass.

 

[RedRonaldo]

They are all at fault and demonstrate poor organisation and communication, they all just sit and wait things to happen, instead of acting decisive and aggressive in their own box, which is suicidal.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

He did the right thing by going to the intended target of the cross but the ball took a deflection.

Williams should have been covering the man behind him.

DDG should have been stronger and swept up the loose ball.

DDG for me. Like any cross, you call that it’s yours unless it’s sailing or going wide

 

[Baneofthegame]

More on DDG, but the way Maguire just leaves it without attempting to make a clearance is ridiculous.

The majority of our defence was atrocious last night.

 

[AshRK]

Both of them didn't own up. I bet ramos would have sprinted and cleared the ball. Less said about de gea the better. The guy has 0% leadership quality. He should be benched asap.

 

[Lynty]

Our defending was dreadful last night. Maguire played his part in that - regardless who was at fault for the goal.

 

[DCP]

Keeper should have just taken the ball - I'm not talking about being brave and jumping at the attackers feet, but he should have just picked the ball up as it came across the box. But he was rooted to the line.

Ole Out. De Gea Out.

 

[Enigma_87]

Seriously? Just step up and clear the fecking ball instead of shielding it and pointing. Yes DDG hugging the line is a problem, but it's not a problem we/our captain is not aware of.

It demonstrates a clear lack of authority in the box and refusing to take responsibility of clearing a ridiculously easy ball in the box.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

They are all at fault and demonstrate poor organisation and communication, they all just sit and wait things to happen, instead of acting decisive and aggressive in their own box, which is suicidal.

Didn’t AWB give Pogba an atrocious pass when it was easier to pass to feet?

 

[thepolice123]

Bizarre to see people saying that he was trying to shield the ball.

The cross changed trajectory in mid-flight and he had to adjust his run, no way he would have gotten there even if he slid in.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Didn’t AWB give Pogba an atrocious pass when it was easier to pass to feet?

Lindelöf

 

[SuperiorXI]

We have got to do something about this defence in the January transfer window. They're consistently costing us.