It's the romanticism of having one of Fergie's ex players involved in the club in some capacity.
Its sentiment. A DoF will have a style of play he wants the club to develop. He will sign players to suit that style.
Realistically we're 3rd behind Liverpool and City. Both took their foot off the pedal when Liverpool went so far clear. It's totally meaningless when you look at the context.
• How long does it take?
Well Jose and LvG were when signed considered top managers. They really didn't do that much better with what we're currently having. Also, it seems Solskjær is also putting a lot more emphasis on recruitment for young talents around the world. He's trying to build a steady foundation for the future.It's mental. If you ask any United fan what they think about SAF they would say he is a GOAT, and rightly so. But at the same time they spout nonsense like no manager could do any better than Ole. Same Ole that will absolutely struggle to find a job at highest level after he is eventually sacked. Top manager would 100% do better than Ole, how is this even a discussion
Calling for his sack on Monday after a ChL-exit we all thought was already set in stone before the first game was played. Though the prophecy has been realized, we were doing a lot better than anticipated I would say.
Except they did. Ole would have to win 2 cups this season to match Jose's tenure
Both of them are dinosaurs, especially LVG. What I meant by top manager is somebody who is very good right now, not 5 years ago and not 20 years ago like in LVG's case. Also, Jose did better. Biggest issue was his personality and style of football.
Set in stone
No expectations. No shame.
Regarding Arteta has he even done a year yet? Didnt he also win something? Ole has had 2 and were still no clearer what is ideals his tactics his structure, whatever you want to call it is. Obviously everybody wanted him to succeed as he is a legend and Utd manager, but why should he get a free ride when none of the other managers since Fergie did.
I was just curious. I'm just as disappointed about the manor of our exit but oddly not that surprised. And the criticism levelled at Ole with regards to this is fair, even if the end-result does not surprise me that much (We barely made it into the competition so going out in a group where last year's semifinalists qualify in our stead is not that much of a surprising outcome).
Ole was expected to achieve Champions League football - he delivered, it doesn't matter how or when or in what style, his target was achieved
chelsea spent 300 million and aren’t running away with it. It’s not actually a guarantee of anything anymore. The organisation has been so broken that it took 300 million just to get us back to challenging for top 4. We need a proper team to kick on. Long term center forward, a dm with legs, a fecking right winger. Any manager would fail without these ingredients. Ole is succeeding despite all these handicaps and I feel he would do a lot better with real quality in those positions. What other top club has no competition for places? Rashford and martial have to start every game even when they are clearly out of form. A serious club would be finding solutions to these problems but here we are with the same old problems years later.
Just like LVG pretty much. Although luckily we fired him in the end and got the cup so it was worth the suffering. Not sure it will be with Ole though.
Why were you looking for Ole's sack?
Okay, you can also say that about Ed Woodward. What PL club would want Ed Woodward running their club?
Why were you looking for Ole's sack?
my wife better not see that search historyAgree regarding Woodward. Horrific CEO to have.
That's the worst thing. This penchant for getting results in high leverage situations don't seem to show up when trophies are on the line. This has to be the most depressing kind of game-raising
All this energy fans have against Ole, because alot of them dislike him.
Do not agree with that. In fact, I am sure an absolute majority of United fans on here hate Eddy with passion for many reasons. I am not blaming Ole for taking the job, I am just saying that he is well below the par. Not expecting him to resign, just hoping that Eddy finally makes the call.
Why not both? I guarantee you virtually everyone who wants Ole out also wants Woodward out. It's not one or the other.
Can’t argue with your logic the way it panned out but, you never know, if we’d set up in any one of the ways some have suggested it may have been even worse. For one thing, it’s less than a week since VDB had to be hooked at half time.
If you were in a job and well below par, you're still going to try until you get sacked? Or will you resign? Which proves you are not good enough.
'Ole's sack'
'Ole's likes to come from behind'
[insert funny pun here]
I never suggested we put him in the DOF box now but that should've been in consideration the first time around when his caretaker role was coming to an end. I'm all for getting rid of Ole now but the club will foolishly continue to back him.
Agreed, If Ed goes Ole will be gone. A competent person running this club would know straight away. You are bringing players who are on 200k a week, we need a manager that can make difficult calls.
Thanks for that. Shouldn't the new manager bounce thing be considered for the others as well? Well barring Moyes, who had no chance of being an improvement on his predecessor, that said I didn't feel the bounce lasted long under LvG either...
No, it should never ever be in consideration. He has shown no qualities to be considered for that role. It's a hugely influencial role that requires a specialist, it's not an ambassadorial role that ex players can just jump into for the kick of it.
I am not sure what are we even debating about. Is he below the par? Yes. Should he be replaced? Yes. Should Woody do it? Yes.
