Thomas Tuchel sacked at Christmas

[Widow]

BBC

After leading PSG to their first Champions League final last season this seems a strange time to sack a manager. They may be 1 point off the lead in a league when they are expected to walk it but still harsh.



Record

Games - 127
Won - 95
Draws - 13
Loses - 19

Goals For - 337
Goals Against - 103

Win % - 74.80


Silverware

Ligue 1: 2018–19, 2019–20
Coupe de France: 2019–20
Coupe de la Ligue: 2019–20
Trophée des Champions: 2018, 2019
UEFA Champions League runner-up: 2019–20

 

[SuperiorXI]

First he wasn't Leonardo's choice. And Tuchel is always complaining about something and generally does it in interviews, it's the same story every transfer windows.

Surprising he wasn't gone sooner then.

To get rid at Christmas... really harsh. Losing your job at Christmas is not nice... luckily never had that experience.

 

[meamth]

Please take Poch.

 

[SuperiorXI]

There's already a thread mate

 

[sammsky1]

Tuchel will probably replace Arteta

Why would he accept a job at Arsenal?! He'd have very little transfer budget and a ropey squad too. I think he'd wait for a better club with more funds.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Convinced he'll come to the PL as his next move, though probably sometime in a year. These coaches like to take some time off.

 

[sammsky1]

He fell out with the hierarchy at Dortmund, wouldn't be surprised if it was similar here. Hopefully he'll cause similar behind the scenes trouble at one of our league rivals too.

This could be good if it takes Poch off the market, especially since he's going to a nothing club. It let's Ole see out the season without that pressure, and it keeps him away from any of our league rivals. It will also show us whether he is able to do the business with a top squad.

Yes please. Id love that!

 

[dev1l]

PSG in France are like Bayern in Germany or Juve in Italy. They win the league by default due to their far superior resources compared with the rest of the opposition.
So you have to take this into account when stating figures.

 

[Mb194dc]

Classy move, sacking on Christmas Eve. Next game doesn't seem to be till the 6th of January.

Poch would be mad to take the job. Better to wait.

 

[peridigm]

Please take Poch.

Romano reporting done deal.

 

[JPRouve]

Surprising he wasn't gone sooner then.

To get rid at Christmas... really harsh. Losing your job at Christmas is not nice... luckily never had that experience.

As I said earlier, RMC stated that it was linked to an interview that he gave yesterday.

 

[sammsky1]

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Today is the day when you meet your family and have dinner together and exchange presents before or after (we do it around 5 pm). That's the case in most European countries I think with the UK being the exception.

So you have your main family xmas meal on 24th? What happens on 25th then?

 

[Lay]

Not a fan of Tuchel. I think PSG have a better chance for the CL without him.

 

[Widow]

Convinced he'll come to the PL as his next move, though probably sometime in a year. These coaches like to take some time off.

I hope so. I think his style and personality would fit well in England.

I wonder if Arteta is getting worried

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

He’ll get a nice Christmas bonus with his departure. He and his family won’t starve this Christmas, I can guarantee that.

 

[kouroux]

Christmas represents nothing to their owners, why would they care ?

 

[FrankDrebin]

I hope so. I think his style and personality would fit well in England.

I wonder if Arteta is getting worried

Tuchel seems to have issues with owners who don't financially back him so Arteta should be safe for now.

 

[Widow]

There's already a thread mate

I missed it. Only just become a full member so I looked in the wrong place.

 

[Maluco]

Let’s see him at PSG then, hope that clarifies things for everyone?

I hope it does. It won’t take away from his job at Spurs either way!

 

[Jim Beam]

Not a fan of Tuchel. I think PSG have a better chance for the CL without him.

According to @Amadaeus they are now clear favourites for the World Cup also.

 

[Widow]

Tuchel seems to have issues with owners who don't financially back him so Arteta should be safe for now.

Sooner or later Arsenal has to back a manager though. Would they prefer to back Arteta, a new manager but a respected former player, OR Tuchel an experienced league winner all be it at strong teams. I know where I'd put my money

 

[GDaly95]

Not his biggest fan, far from it, but sad to see he's been sacked on Christmas

 

[do.ob]

Christmas represents nothing to their owners, why would they care ?

I don't think Christian club bosses would care much either. With the messy schedule this is the only moment where you get the faintest whiff of a break, so clubs have to use it if they feel that changes are necessary. And if the decision was indeed triggered by an interview that Tuchel gave it was he himself who picked the timing anyway.

 

[RoyH1]

A bit of a hopeless job to be honest. Dominating french football is the bare minimum expected of you but with the investment that Qatar has put into that club, anything but a CL would be a disappointment. Much to lose and very hard to win.

 

[GoldanoGraham]

They will already have the replacement lined up - it’s not like it was an instant decision to get rid...

 

[DickDastardly]

Wow!

Did he get the memo in a christmas card?

Did they buy him a present at least?

That's some cold shit. Paris, the city of Love!

 

[Oly Francis]

As I said earlier, RMC stated that it was linked to an interview that he gave yesterday.

I highly doubt it was the interview only if everything is almost done with Mauricio, it had to be in the bag for a few weeks.

I don't know how our locker room will react to that, Tuchel seemed to still have the support of the players.

Very hard for me to say if it's a bad move or not but we can't really be satisfied with some of the players Leonardo picked (burning 50M+ on Icardi who's a very specific kind of forward, Danilo is useless, failure to get rid of other players that shouldn't be in the team for a while etc.).

Time will tell how Pochettino handles players like Neymar or Mbappé.

 

[Bepi]

I hope he doesn't come to the Prem. There's something off about him and I get the heebie jeebies every time I listen to him being interviewed.

The recent crop of high-level German coaches is pretty awkward, as for character? While you can clearly guess when the Spanish are struggling and the Italians are out of their depth, with Germans you just do not know. Leonardo and Tuchel are definitely night and day.

I’m not sure Poch would fit the PSG expensive bill, though? He just comes across as a mid-upper table manager pretending he is top without the trophies, a bit pampered. Allegri’s football might be tumescent at times, but he is a far more rounded and experienced profile than him, and a very good match with Leonardo.

All these supposedly wise words just to alert Utd fans calling Ole out... not wanting Poch is ok and possibly right, but you could end up either with boring Allegri or just another awkward German flavour of the month.

 

[treble_winner]

Bad move for Pochettino. These jobs where only CL success is success are really strange as you can do an excellent job but some bad luck in the cup can mess it all up.

This is COVID time. No job during this time is ever bad move. Pochettino will finally be more at ease regarding having breads on his family's table.

 

[JPRouve]

I highly doubt it was the interview only if everything is almost done with Mauricio, it had to be in the bag for a few weeks.

I don't know how our locker room will react to that, Tuchel seemed to still have the support of the players.

Very hard for me to say if it's a bad move or not but we can't really be satisfied with some of the players Leonardo picked (burning 50M+ on Icardi who's a very specific kind of forward, Danilo is useless, failure to get rid of other players that shouldn't be in the team for a while etc.).

Time will tell how Pochettino handles players like Neymar or Mbappé.

It wasn't only the interview but the timing is supposed to be about the interview. And there is a fair chance that Pochettino was already being lined up for next season.

 

[Bobcat]

Why would he accept a job at Arsenal?! He'd have very little transfer budget and a ropey squad too. I think he'd wait for a better club with more funds.

Exactly, he would be daft to go anywhere near that trainwreck

Its not like hes going to end up on the streets just because hes unemployed, so my guess hes going to take a hiatus for the rest of the season.

 

[Revaulx]

December 23rd is not Christmas.

In the retail world, Christmas seems to begin half way through October. If not earlier

 

[meamth]

Was reading Sky sports:

Pochettino spent five-and-a-half years at Spurs, leading them to the Champions League final, League Cup final, and two FA Cup semi-finals, as well as four top-four finishes in the Premier League, before being dismissed in November 2019.

I laughed.

 

[Eriku]

Bit of a pointless comment really.
Obviously this is taken from the Ole thread and all.

But people beat on Poch because he hasn't won anything. If he wins Ligue 1, it's a nothing trophy, yet people still cite Ole for winning the Norwegian League

Exactly, like the Ole fanboys when they count the more prestigious Norwegian league as a trophy for Ole .

You guys haven’t been paying attention. What’s cited is the fact that he took a club that’s been around 100 years and helped them win the league for the first time. Vastly different to winning the league with PSG.

Not that it’s a massive thing to have on the CV, but you guys are seriously misrepresenting things with this one.

 

[Marat]

Why was he sacked? I don't really follow French football.

Too much conflicts with Leonardo and his staff in war with the medicals + communication misguided ways
Tuchel's vision is not compatible with a lot of people in PSG

 

[Igor Drefljak]

You guys haven’t been paying attention. What’s cited is the fact that he took a club that’s been around 100 years and helped them win the league for the first time. Vastly different to winning the league with PSG.

Not that it’s a massive thing to have on the CV, but you guys are seriously misrepresenting things with this one.

And at the same time, PSG would gladly take Poch, but I doubt they'd ever hire Ole.
So I think in the end, Poch has a more impressive CV.

 

[stevoc]

Bah! If he becomes genuinely unattainable they’ll become even more insufferable.

Yeah no doubt.

My scepticism over Poch is now driven far more by his fanboys being annoying than my objective opinion of his abilities. Which is sad really.

I think thats where i'm at too that and the laughable overrating of his league finishes at Spurs. You would think he took Spurs from mid-table to the brink of a title. Instead of taking a team that regularly finished 4th-5th to 2nd-3rd.

 

[Oly Francis]

And at the same time, PSG would gladly take Poch, but I doubt they'd ever hire Ole.
So I think in the end, Poch has a more impressive CV.

Also, we can't discard the fact that Poch was, at one point, captain for PSG.

 

[bleedred]

Surprised they went for poch. The way things are going, pep is surely available in the summer.

 

[Acole9]

They won 4-0 last night

It wasn't 5-0 though was it. Not good enough he had to go.