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I would love them to win the league again. The salt from fans of certain teams would be sufficient to start my own mine. Spurs fans, I'm thinking, would be particularly aggrieved that this little upstart club with no right to win anything has two league titles while they've frittered away their best squad in decades on nothing. Delicious.
 

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Them and Villa are the two teams I'm most worried about knocking us off the top 4.

Rodgers is a very good manager and they have a lovely group of players, some real gems in there like Fofana, Justin, Tielemans, Maddison. Almost anyone they sign has been a revelation and we should maybe look to steal their scouting team instead of going for their players.
 

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They are a very good side. I definitely underestimated them last season and the start of this on but you look at their starting 11 and it's really very strong. I'd argue its probably the best of the rest outside of Utd, Liverpool and City.
 

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I would love them to win the league again. The salt from fans of certain teams would be sufficient to start my own mine. Spurs fans, I'm thinking, would be particularly aggrieved that this little upstart club with no right to win anything has two league titles while they've frittered away their best squad in decades on nothing. Delicious.
Take away the league win and we've still won as much as them in nearly 30 years (Two league Cups).

Not that anyone cares, but being a Leicester fan is pretty good, we love a massive drama. About 35 years a fan and I've had it all, from relegations, La Manga, Administration, Helicopter crash, Three league cup finals, Watford Penalty, So many play off finals I can barely remember how many, three league cup finals, champions league quarter, Europe a few times, League One Title, Championship Title, Premier league title, The great escape. Think I've had two years in 35 where nothing mental has happened :lol:

One thing we've not got is the FA Cup, I'm absolutely desperate for that. I'd have seen us win the top three divisions and both cups, think I'd retire as a fan.
 

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They're a very good team. Their scouting network must be amongst the best in Europe, they just keep producing wonderful signings of young players and turn them into £50m-£100m players.

You look at City, us, Leicester, Spurs, Liverpool and Everton Two will miss out on top 4, last season Leicester missed out, I don't think they will this time.
 

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Rodgers is probably the best manager in the league right now after Guardiola and Klopp. And whoever does their transfers is brilliant
Aye, if it weren't for his Liverpool spell and turning into a-bit of a gobshite for a period of time, he would be far more appreciated on here and in general. Leicester have absolutely no right to be even in top four contention with that squad. It's good, but Rodgers has them playing achieving far more than the sum of their parts.
 

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Leicester have absolutely no right to be even in top four contention with that squad. It's good, but Rodgers has them playing achieving far more than the sum of their parts.
Sorry, but no. Our squad is very very decent, suggesting it's all down to him misses the point massively. Just as it did when people put the title win down to Ranieri. Just because you don't know a player or didn't spend £60m on a player, doesn't mean he's not a very good player.

The people at the top of this club are sensational, this isn't getting lucky with a manager. It's having a plan and sticking to it, with as faultless execution as you could possibly expect. Of course you need a decent manager, but he's a cog in a machine.
 

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Sorry, but no. Our squad is very very decent, suggesting it's all down to him misses the point massively. Just as it did when people put the title win down to Ranieri. Just because you don't know a player or didn't spend £60m on a player, doesn't mean he's not a very good player.

The people at the top of this club are sensational, this isn't getting lucky with a manager. It's having a plan and sticking to it, with as faultless execution as you could possibly expect. Of course you need a decent manager, but he's a cog in a machine.
Nah, he's punching way above his weight with that squad. It's a very good squad but he has them performing far and above the sum of their parts. I'm not changing my opinion on that, sorry.

Take Rodgers out and you guys would be between 5th and 7th. Same way as if you put Rodgers in Arteta's position, he has Arsenal performing way better than they are. It's like the whole 'anyone can win the league with Celtic' lark. Look at the state of them since Rodgers left. You seem upset even though I said you guys have a good squad. Top managers elevate teams, it's not rocket science. Do you think that Liverpool side would be what they are without Klopp? Not a hope.
 

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Nah, he's punching way above his weight with that squad. It's a very good squad but he has them performing far and above the sum of their parts. I'm not changing my opinion on that, sorry.

Take Rodgers out and you guys would be between 5th and 7th. Same way as if you put Rodgers in Arteta's position, he has Arsenal performing way better than they are. It's like the whole 'anyone can win the league with Celtic' lark. Look at the state of them since Rodgers left. You seem upset even though I said you guys have a good squad. Top managers elevate teams, it's not rocket science. Do you think that Liverpool side would be what they are without Klopp? Not a hope.
So it's good enough to be 5th and not 4th. :lol: May I remind you that we finished 5th with him in charge last season.
 

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So it's good enough to be 5th and not 4th. :lol: May I remind you that we finished 5th with him in charge last season.
Huh? I said between 5th and 7th. That's a mere prediction of course, it would depend who comes in of course and what they're capable of. Weird.
 

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He’s just not kicked on, he needs a fresh start elsewhere

As for Vardy, you don’t replace him you can’t! You don’t go for a like for like you go for more of a Giroud type
That’s so true. People like to have a like-for-like replacement. It never happens because everyone is unique. Vardy is simply extremely unique.
 

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Rodgers is probably the best manager in the league right now after Guardiola and Klopp. And whoever does their transfers is brilliant
So he is better than Jose now? A month ago Spurs were top and Jose was back! the league will be helter skelter this season and Leicester could end up like last season.
Them and Villa are the two teams I'm most worried about knocking us off the top 4.

Rodgers is a very good manager and they have a lovely group of players, some real gems in there like Fofana, Justin, Tielemans, Maddison. Almost anyone they sign has been a revelation and we should maybe look to steal their scouting team instead of going for their players.
Why? We are in a title race. Should be Spurs and Chelsea worried not us.
They are a very good side. I definitely underestimated them last season and the start of this on but you look at their starting 11 and it's really very strong. I'd argue its probably the best of the rest outside of Utd, Liverpool and City.
Their team is not better than Tottenham's. Earlier in the season people were saying Spurs have better players than us. Its always a flavour of the month
 

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Their team is not better than Tottenham's. Earlier in the season people were saying Spurs have better players than us. Its always a flavour of the month
Just checking that's the Spurs team we're on course to finish ahead of for the third time in 6 seasons and beat with ease.
 

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Are all Leicester fans as argumentative and narkey as the ones we've had on here in recent years? Serious question. Maybe the Caf has just been cursed and they're actually a lovely bunch. Bar one or two, every single one I've ever conversed with on here has tried to pick a pointless fight.
 

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Are all Leicester fans as argumentative and narkey as the ones we've had on here in recent years? Serious question. Maybe the Caf has just been cursed and they're actually a lovely bunch. Bar one or two, every single one I've ever conversed with on here has tried to pick a pointless fight.
Oh I'm sorry, should we just nod our head and agree when someone who has probably watched us a handful of times, tells us about our club?

Perhaps if you keep getting into "pointless fights" it tells you something about your opinion?
 

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Oh I'm sorry, should we just nod our head and agree when someone who has probably watched us a handful of times, tells us about our club?

Perhaps if you keep getting into "pointless fights" it tells you something about your opinion?
My opinion was Leicester have a good squad but Rodgers is performing well above the sum of his parts. I mean, that seems fairly reasonable but yet you're outraged :lol:

God forbid somebody actually said something outlandish. I shouldn't have an opinion on a team I don't support, silly me. Even though said opinion wasn't degrading in the slightest. Chill out lad.
 

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So he is better than Jose now? A month ago Spurs were top and Jose was back! the league will be helter skelter this season and Leicester could end up like last season.
Currently, yes. I don't think Mourinho is a great manager anymore. Southampton were also top, it doesn't mean much early on. Leicester ending up like last season is an achievement for that club.
 

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Oh I'm sorry, should we just nod our head and agree when someone who has probably watched us a handful of times, tells us about our club?

Perhaps if you keep getting into "pointless fights" it tells you something about your opinion?
What’s wrong with that? Even though I disagree with the guy but there are agree and disagree in discussion so just chill. I have seen Spurs & Chelsea fans in here including early this season or recently are acting like they know more about their own club and using their authority as the club’s fans to have more knowledge but now are proven wrong. In fact, I remember there was one Leicester fans acted similar early last season to December in here and then disappeared since then to end of the season nowhere to be seen, not sure if it was you but I do remember the poster was newbie.

May be you should go to Leicester forum to discuss it with your fellow Leicester fans who will have the same opinion as yours and will have a cheerful discussion.
 

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So he is better than Jose now? A month ago Spurs were top and Jose was back! the league will be helter skelter this season and Leicester could end up like last season.

Why? We are in a title race. Should be Spurs and Chelsea worried not us.

Their team is not better than Tottenham's. Earlier in the season people were saying Spurs have better players than us. Its always a flavour of the month
Yeh and I said at the time that Spurs team is bang average and I’ve been incredibly consistent in that view. They have two world class players, but the rest of their team is really boring special at all. Leicester have a better defensive, midfield and Vardy is himself excellent. They have a very good team.
 

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Rodgers is probably the best manager in the league right now after Guardiola and Klopp. And whoever does their transfers is brilliant
31m Slimani, 28m Iheanacho, 20m Musa, 25m Adrien Silva. Even 33m for Perez was not really a good deal in my opinion. Decent/okay player for backup but for Leicester I think that amount should be for starting XI spot. They are good in selling though.
 

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31m Slimani, 28m Iheanacho, 20m Musa, 25m Adrien Silva. Even 33m for Perez was not really a good deal in my opinion. Decent/okay player for backup but for Leicester I think that amount should be for starting XI spot.
They spunked money the summer after they won the league but they've done well since then.
 

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Fofana in my opinion is a future PSG/Barca/RM player, the 80mil for Maguire is going to be superseded with this player, he is that good.

Also JJ has comfortably replaced Chilwell, can see the difference in their attack play from last nights game, Chilwell did a few poor crosses whilst JJ actually advances into the opponents defense. With JJ and Castagne they can also both swap sides at will. As I predicted Ricardo hasn't just walked back in the team meaning we now have quality in depth. Unreal time as a LCFC supporter.
 

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Does it mean that Chilwell isnt really a good player?

Alot of people told me last season that Maguire leaving didn't impact them, they didn't conceded more goals, their league position is the same / better.

Is this the case with Chilwell too?
 

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Does it mean that Chilwell isnt really a good player?

Alot of people told me last season that Maguire leaving didn't impact them, they didn't conceded more goals, their league position is the same / better.

Is this the case with Chilwell too?
A lot of us did and still rate Chilwell, I was never a big fan of his, however he has suffered from mental problems and was unsettled for his last half season with us, he is a decent player but I think in terms of our own team, James Justin is better suited and giving us better performances.
 

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Does it mean that Chilwell isnt really a good player?

Alot of people told me last season that Maguire leaving didn't impact them, they didn't conceded more goals, their league position is the same / better.

Is this the case with Chilwell too?
Tbf, a-lot of Leicester fans on here maintained Chilwell was good but not amazing, and this was long before he left.

The salt over Maguire was bloody hilarious, though. The opinions on him greatly changed when he left and apparently Evans was always better.
 

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A lot of us did and still rate Chilwell, I was never a big fan of his, however he has suffered from mental problems and was unsettled for his last half season with us, he is a decent player but I think in terms of our own team, James Justin is better suited and giving us better performances.
Its more a case for Manutd fans who didn't rate Maguire saying he isnt good because Leicester dealt with losing him relatively well.

They don't realise its more to do with the way Leicester handled the loss, getting in players who are just as good if not better.
 

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Tbf, a-lot of Leicester fans on here maintained Chilwell was good but not amazing, and this was long before he left.

The salt over Maguire was bloody hilarious, though. The opinion on him greatly changed when he left and apparently Evans was always better.
Not claiming any Leicester fans called Chilwell special.

It just shows what demand for a position can do for a team. Chelsea needed a LB, had to pay a premium. United needed a CB, had to pay a premium.
 

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Not claiming any Leicester fans called Chilwell special.

It just shows what demand for a position can do for a team. Chelsea needed a LB, had to pay a premium. United needed a CB, had to pay a premium.
For me, both are good players but not amazing. However, Maguire has clearly made us defensively better. I don't rate him nearly as highly as some but he's been a good addition.

Both cost far more than their actual values and Leicester are a good selling team in that regard. They set their value for a player and stick to it.
 

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We should seriously think about Ndidi before he goes to Pool or Chelsea.

Would be an absolute upgrade in midfield
 

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For me, both are good players but not amazing. However, Maguire has clearly made us defensively better. I don't rate him nearly as highly as some but he's been a good addition.

Both cost far more than their actual values and Leicester are a good selling team in that regard. They set their value for a player and stick to it.
I agree, I do not think Maguire is special but neither is he as bad as some people claim.

Leicester were negotiating on both from a place of strength so there was no reason to sell for less.
 

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We should seriously think about Ndidi before he goes to Pool or Chelsea.

Would be an absolute upgrade in midfield
He would be a fantastic signing and the type of player we need. I know some on here aren't keen because they feel he's very limited. Imo, his all-round game has improved quite a-bit in the past 18 months or so.
 

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It's tiring to see an innocuous comment being picked on and turned into a senseless argument. Sometimes opposition fan need to stop being so defensive and learn to see both sides of the coin. After Leicester won the league and they dropped off massively the following season with Claudio Ranieri fired, they were in freefall and just became a mid-table team yoyoing around the league. Their league position in the next 2 seasons after they won the league were 12th and 9th. One need to take into consideration of them in irrelevancy before Brendan Rodgers joined, it wasn't until he came and they actually became a top team again. They finished 5th and almost finished 4th if it wasn't for their drop in form after the league restarted. Let's not forget our last game of last season was against them and they would have pipped us to 4th if we had lost to them which was honestly a possibility. There was a thread saying when they would break the top 6 monopoly. For me, they've already broken it. They are ahead of Arsenal now.
 
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We should seriously think about Ndidi before he goes to Pool or Chelsea.

Would be an absolute upgrade in midfield
I can't imagine Woodward and co. will be falling over themselves to deal with the Leicester string-pullers again. They're well-positioned to keep fleecing any club that goes after their best players, and more power to them. Ndidi will cost Maguire money, if not more.
 

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I can't imagine Woodward and co. will be falling over themselves to deal with the Leicester string-pullers again. They're well-positioned to keep fleecing any club that goes after their best players, and more power to them. Ndidi will cost Maguire money, if not more.
It's shrewd business as opposed to fleecing. They work on a 'supply and demand' model and are well positioned to charge what they want. If clubs are willing to overpay for the likes of Maguire and Chilwell then why not set their prices high. Ndidi would indeede cost a fortune and they're well within their rights to charge what they want.
 

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Tbf, a-lot of Leicester fans on here maintained Chilwell was good but not amazing, and this was long before he left.

The salt over Maguire was bloody hilarious, though. The opinions on him greatly changed when he left and apparently Evans was always better.

I've never been a big fan of Chilwell. I think there's plenty of posts on here from me last season saying that he's our weak link in defense (though I didn't put it as kindly as that).

I was always a fan of Maguire, and I'd have been happy to keep him. However, I don't think many opinions changed on Maguire. This seems to be wishful thinking on the part of Man Utd fans, since they'd just splashed out 80m on a player.

If you go to FoxesTalk, you can see the 'average' of match ratings given to players over a season. In the one season they played together, Ricardo was our player of the season (average rating of 6.7). Evans was our second best performer (with an average rating of 6.6). Maguire was our 8th best performer, with a rating of 6.2. That's not 'salt' or 'hindsight' - that's how they were viewed at the time.

People just assume it's 'sour grapes' because for the most part, they have no idea what other fans think - they just see his fancy passing/dribbling highlights on MOTD, see the pundits bigging him up, see that he played for England, and presume he must have been our best defender. If you'd asked at the time, most Leicester fans would have said otherwise. He always had a clanger in him, while Evans was much more reliable, which is what you want from a defender.

https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/matchratings/season/1-201819/?tab=players

(Link for proof. I discounted Tielemans, Ward and Choudhury because they played so few games)
 
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I've never been a big fan of Chilwell. I think there's plenty of posts on here from me last season saying that he's our weak link in defense (though I didn't put it as kindly as that).

I was always a fan of Maguire, and I'd have been happy to keep him. However, I don't think many opinions changed on Maguire. This seems to be wishful thinking on the part of Man Utd fans, since they'd just splashed out 80m on a player.
I was strictly talking about on here mate. Check any of the threads on here around the time of his transfer and you'll see the nauseating arguments and agendas from salty Leicester fans. They were also consistently called out on it. There were probably more balanced opinions on Leicester fan forums alright.

And believe me, I wasn't for signing him at all. I was highly critcical of the OTT praise for him during the 2018 WC. I think he's just above average but he has improved our poor defence and at least he manages to stay fit.