That isn’t playing the ball, don’t be daft.
even if he has the ball at his feet and Rodri charges him from behind its offside.
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even if he has the ball at his feet and Rodri charges him from behind its offside.
Fair points.
But does Rodri’s position distract Mings and force him to make a decision he wouldn’t make, ie chest the ball down instead of taking it on his foot? Or does a call from a teammate force Mings to do that? If so, Rodri has interfered with an opponent.
Hahaha exactly! These people saying it’s fine are absolutely bonkers. There’s no way that can be possible playing football for god sake.
How has the phase of play changed?! the ball has barely hit the floor. A phase of play isn’t over in an instant like that. He didn’t even get a chance to kick it away. Clear clear offside.
It resets as soon as Mings touches the ball. It's not difficult mate. As soon as that happens it's irrelevant where Rodri is stood.
So it's not intended? Sorry. You're making up your own definitions now.
How are people even trying to say that the phase of play has changed!? He chests the ball and it hasn't even hit the floor before Rodri is trying to tackle him 
You’re not going to find a lot of agreement but good luck
Bingo. I guses forwards should literally just stay in offside positions, and sneak up on defenders from behind.
Massive fecking loophole. This will be addressed ASAP by the PL imo. The teams will demand it.
Except I’m not. Just because you don’t know the rules doesn’t mean I’m making anything up.
Keeper saves aren’t an intentional play of the ball, hence why your scenario is always called as offside.
Someone would have pulled up rules of the game by now
That’s an absolute load of rubbish pal sorry. How can you possibly think that’s ok? The rule has never allowed somebody to run back from an offside position and interfere with the game.
BT did the rules say he’s onside when Mings takes the ball down
Theyll literally have no involvement in any build up play ever again if they tried this!
He's not offside when he makes the tackle FFS
Yeah. All keeps accidently save the ball. It's all unintentional.
Feel free to show me the legislation that differentiates between the two. You know, as opposed to you just deciding it.
Yeah I don't think it was offside myself as Mings plays the ball and loses it. Understand emotions are high but I can see why it wasn't given.
The people on here calling it offside - learn the rules ffs. Otherwise one of the strongest displays of City this season. Great teamplay and energy. Clear favourites for the title now.
feck sake
If Rodri's position affects Mings, then why in the twelve hundred hells does he try to chest the ball down????
Of course you can. The moment the defender makes a deliberate attempt to play the ball, offside is reset. Either Rodri affects Mings attempt to play the ball - and again, it's strictly the first touch that matters here, i.e. the first attempt to play the ball - or he's onsideNo no no no
you CANNOT come back from offside and tackle somebody period.
He doesn't affect Mings first touch, therefore he's onside
They haven't conceded in five matches, 3 in the last 10.
Haven't seen it yet but I can already feel 100% that had Mane nicked the ball it would have been definite offside and the whole football community would agree. VAR used for 0.25 seconds to decide it.
I said it last last week and i'll say it again, it really frustrates me how little of a chance we gave Lookman. He's a very talented footballer.
So basically anyone can now hang about miles offside, surprise a player legitimately trying to control a ball from their blindside, and benefit massively from it?
The overall result was harsh on Villa a bit, they deserved a goal at least. Traore was wasteful, snatching at every chance. Dias and Ederson were great.
According to the rules - yes.
They could, but it would be completely ineffective and pointless. Would work only when defender switches off and gives the ball away, as it happened in this game.
Because he's forced to take a quicker touch due to pressure from the oncoming opponent. If Rodri's not there, putting pressure on him, he just takes it down on his foot and then has it under control.
He didn't give the ball away, he got tackled from the blind side.
If he had his time again, he'd either head/smash it straight clear, or just stand well away from the ball and hold his hand up. They'd have flagged it then for sure.
If Mings is worried about Rodri, why the feck does he try to control the ball instead of just clearing it in the first place? He's under no pressure from Rodri when he attempts to chest it down. That's all that matters
It's a feck up by Mings. And yes, i fully understand that it seems unfair on the defender, and that it's a loophole in the rule. I agree with that. But that's the rule.
City starting to look ominous, like they can beat everyone they play.
Fulham are a tidy side.
Fulham are a tidy side.
He had more than enough time to control it properly or simply kick it out. Should every player in offside position take himself out of the game for 10 minutes? There's nothing wrong with the goal.
United gonna give win handy in the end. Having a real poacher like Cavani will be worth 10-15 points for them this season. He's the type of player we'd need at City to get the job done. Tonight again showed we're not putting teams away and we need a scorer to have control I feel.
Maguire should score that. He misses way too many offensive chances like that.
The rule states that you're offside if you distract or interfere with an opponent. IMO Rodri distracted Mings from an offside position. If you disagree, then let's just agree to disagree.
This is a goal.
Not sure they looked that ominous to be honest. A huge break with an unusual goal got them through what could easily have been 0-0 fare otherwise.
We'll see how serious any KDB injury was.
We need them to do something at Anfield though
And then crumble.
They never win at Anfield. Been almost 20 years since they did. 0-0 written all over it given how good they are now defensively.Not sure they looked that ominous to be honest. A huge break with an unusual goal got them through what could easily have been 0-0 fare otherwise.
We'll see how serious any KDB injury was.
We need them to do something at Anfield though
And then crumble.
Things change pal. Surely your first title in 30 years shows you nothing is forever!