Never thought we'd see this attacking Luke Shaw again, very happy with how he's been playing recently, and long may it continue.
The Resurgence Of Shaw
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Shearer giving it that he’s only playing well because there’s no fans in the stadium. What the feck’s he talking about?
I think people were excited because he was offering something Shaw wasn’t at the time. Pace and a willingness to get stuck into a tackle. Even now, it seems like Shaw does everything at half tempo weirdly, even though he’s clearly not.
I find it hilarious how he’s gone from what felt like zero attacking returns up to lock down, and now he’s taking loads of corners, free kicks, putting in fantastic crosses. It can’t just be Cavani, because it doesn’t explain the set pieces.
The standard of punditry this season is woeful .
Outstanding again today.
Keep it up Luke!!!
I wasn’t sure he’d ever get back to being this good has taken a few years!
Keep it up Luke!!!
I wasn’t sure he’d ever get back to being this good has taken a few years!
My MOM today, and definitely in the best form of his career. He is certainly our best route of transition between defensive and attacking situations.
On form he’s the best full back in the league comfortably currently.
Let’s hope this continues (along with the others’ lack of form)
Let’s hope this continues (along with the others’ lack of form)
I have to admit I was in the "what's Shaw offer us" camp but he has been absoltuely fantastic for the last few games, glad to be wrong 
I'd long resigned myself to the view that Shaw just wasn't that good, but his resurgence has been fantastic and I do feel like real competition in the form of Telles has lit a fire underneath him.
I will tell you what happened...We signed a left back who loves crossing and taking set pieces. Thankfully Shaw has risen to the challenge and upped his own game.
His highest level is better than Evra's was. Change my mind.
Immense again. Love watching him take over that left side. So composed on the ball, always keeps his head. Was at fault for the goal, but has improved so much overall.
Who is England's starting left-back, Chilwell? If Shaw keeps going he should take that spot.
I always wanted him to play well because of his injury and I'm delighted to see his great form recently. I'm amazed he's still only 25.
Yeah I didnt get that either. To be fair, he just raised the question and I don't think he flat out said that is the only reason.
This is what I'm talking about @Andersons Dietician
Evra's highest level was right up there with the very best full-backs in the world for at least five years straight. He was a one-man left wing for the best team in Europe between 2006/09. He virtually never missed a game for seven seasons. When he was 32 and visibly past his best, he was still contributing to one more league title and even popping up with more headed goals than someone of his size had any business contributing (and then he left and still managed to play in another Champions League final while Daley Blind was keeping his successor out of the United team).
Can we please not embarrass the man by comparing him to Luke Shaw?
Superb again.
Love it
Love it
Shaw Shank Redemption.
Well done.
I can't stand Shearer but i thought that was an interesting point, it echoes what mourinho said, that shaw is a character that needs the arm around the shoulder, and perhaps struggles with high pressure situations. Not having the fans in can allow him to focus on his game.
Either way, i think it's more to do with that leg break. Its such fine margins at this level of the game that any amount of second guessing means you are second best. Its taken him a while to mentally get over that i think. The addition of Telles to add that extra level of competition is the icing on the cake.
Either way, i think it's more to do with that leg break. Its such fine margins at this level of the game that any amount of second guessing means you are second best. Its taken him a while to mentally get over that i think. The addition of Telles to add that extra level of competition is the icing on the cake.
Second name on the team sheet for me these days. We’re finally building a team with more than one player we can rely on and he’s stepped up. There will be debate if he’s the best LB in the league but he’s certainly right up there.
On current form he’s the LB in the league ahead of that guy that roars at 19 year olds who are through on goal.
I don't get this argument either.
I see some Liverpool fans use the same excuses. There are no fans in the stadiums so poor performances.
Really ???!!!
It's one thing to say Evra was better over a longer period but to say it's an embarrassment to compare him to Shaw is ridiculous. Evra was a great player for us but with performances like today it's defiantly an appropriate comparison. He needs to keep it up but it would be unfair to deminish his current form as a purple patch. He's taken a step up lately and the improvements he's made, such as his crossing, are not likely to just fade away. Whether it's Telles or something else that sparked his current form, he's definitely worked on his game and shown he has a peak that deserves to be compared with EvraThis is what I'm talking about @Andersons Dietician
Evra's highest level was right up there with the very best full-backs in the world for at least five years straight. He was a one-man left wing for the best team in Europe between 2006/09. He virtually never missed a game for seven seasons. When he was 32 and visibly past his best, he was still contributing to one more league title and even popping up with more headed goals than someone of his size had any business contributing (and then he left and still managed to play in another Champions League final while Daley Blind was keeping his successor out of the United team).
Can we please not embarrass the man by comparing him to Luke Shaw?
Shaw is on fire. Hat down how he was able to come back after a horrible injury and a series of bad to average years. Lot of players would have never make it back. Respect.
He's been good whenever he's actually been fit for at least a couple of years now.
He's had games like some of the ones he's had recently in the past and afterwards been getting slated on here just for not setting up 7 goals or something.
Difference this season seems to be that he's fitter.
Honestly our fullbacks get so much stick and yet they're two of our most reliable players.
TAA is supposedly the best right back in the world yet if Shaw or Bissaka were turning in performances like he is 99% of this forum would want them sold off to Burnley or something.
He's had games like some of the ones he's had recently in the past and afterwards been getting slated on here just for not setting up 7 goals or something.
Difference this season seems to be that he's fitter.
Honestly our fullbacks get so much stick and yet they're two of our most reliable players.
TAA is supposedly the best right back in the world yet if Shaw or Bissaka were turning in performances like he is 99% of this forum would want them sold off to Burnley or something.
Doesn’t say a lot about their management and coaching staff if that is true.
Back on topic, Shaw has been fantastic for a while. I’m pleased to see him getting some recognition and an England spot must be awaiting him.
Hopefully Shearer and Mourinho are wrong, and he will not be negatively impacted by the pressure.
100% this. Also I think prime Evra had a fluency and effortlessness when charging down the flanks. Shaw is doing brilliantly, but he doesn't have that same level of mobility and fluidity. Evra was quite simply one of the best full-backs to ever grace the EPL.This is what I'm talking about @Andersons Dietician
Evra's highest level was right up there with the very best full-backs in the world for at least five years straight. He was a one-man left wing for the best team in Europe between 2006/09. He virtually never missed a game for seven seasons. When he was 32 and visibly past his best, he was still contributing to one more league title and even popping up with more headed goals than someone of his size had any business contributing (and then he left and still managed to play in another Champions League final while Daley Blind was keeping his successor out of the United team).
Can we please not embarrass the man by comparing him to Luke Shaw?
Shaw is superior to Chilwell. He’s currently better than Robertson too.
Not seven a game, no. But one over the entire 2019/20 season would have been a great start. Baby steps.
Now we have someone saying he's currently better than Robertson too. Is that because of the funny face Robertson made? He's having a way better season than Shaw, FFS.
Guess that's another troll added to the blocklist
Sounds like you have dozens of trolls on that blocklist, if that's the bar for making it.
I probably shouldn't be too proud!
I probably shouldn't be too proud!
Well, nothing like a bit of hyperbole on a Sunday night. Two great games last week and then today, a pretty decent performance overall as long as you look past his man scoring both the oppositions goals (including one that he was directly at fault for).
I'm going to need to see a hell of a lot more performances like we saw last Sunday and Wednesday before I'm anywhere near convinced he is the long-term answer. We've been here before with him. I hope he continues in this vein because I do like him and want him to succeed.
I'm going to need to see a hell of a lot more performances like we saw last Sunday and Wednesday before I'm anywhere near convinced he is the long-term answer. We've been here before with him. I hope he continues in this vein because I do like him and want him to succeed.
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Shaw has improved, but still think he has blind spot on his right side and could have cut out a couple of passes today by not extending himself. Good luck to the lad but 'world class' he is not.
Has been in resurgence since he came back from a 3 month injury last season. Our team looks much more cohesive these days and any player will play better under such circumstances.
Remember this ridiculous thread?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/brandon-williams-is-better-than-luke-shaw.452488/
Remember this ridiculous thread?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/brandon-williams-is-better-than-luke-shaw.452488/
He was pretty good last season too.
He is criminally underrated by our fan-base.
So many thought Telles would take him out of the starting 11.
He is criminally underrated by our fan-base.
So many thought Telles would take him out of the starting 11.
No way. I enjoyed Micah Richards and Keane bromance.
A complete powerhouse.
His acceleration and close control is up there with the best. (not flair)
Definitely has that Rooney body type and very strong on the ball.
Composed and calm as well.
WHAT MORE CAN WE ASK FROM HIM? Love him.
His acceleration and close control is up there with the best. (not flair)
Definitely has that Rooney body type and very strong on the ball.
Composed and calm as well.
WHAT MORE CAN WE ASK FROM HIM? Love him.
Shaw is a truely Red Devil
To be fair he has some disastrous months last X amount of years. He'd turn it up for a contract, then fade. Now he's been quite incredible as of late.
Thank you, this is exactly the point I was trying to make.
Of course Evra was incredible for us, and one of the best left backs in the world, over a several year period. However, with the form Shaw is in, I don't think it's ridiculous to say that his very highest level is higher than Evra's. Shaw is much stronger, and although Evra was an excellent ball carrier, I think that Shaw really has something special when he's at full tilt and mentally focused. He can be truly unstoppable with his touch, close control, and sheer pace and power - opponents struggle to get close to him, and if they do, they either bounce off him or foul him in the process. Evra was a clever dribbler, but I think Shaw in this form is better. Shaw's final ball may have previously been a weakness, but he's remarkably improved and he's creating a silly amount of clear chances over the past months (especially from set plays). Evra's final ball was perhaps his one consistent weakness over the span of his career. Defensively, I also think Shaw is currently at a higher level. Again, his sheer athleticism helps as well, he wins a remarkable amount of duels, excellent in the tackle and in the air. We've also seen Evra struggle against some pretty ordinary wingers during his career (remember Aaron Lennon?).
Again, I'm sorry if I phrased it poorly in my earlier post, Evra was an incredible and consistent presence for us over several years. I think it is fair to say Shaw in this form is a more complete player, he's contributing to all aspects of play at an astonishing level. I don't think Evra was ever this influential, although we did have a stronger team for much of Evra's time here.