[Crustanoid]

Thanks United for letting us have to deal with rabid pricks for the next few days

 

[Crustanoid]

Idiots to a man

 

[Lash]

Blimey 4 is being kind after that diabolical showing

Very true.

 

[ScarleyUtd]

Tbf us fannying about at the back with sloppy passes and giving away chances on a plate has been going for yonks. It's amazing more teams haven't taken advantage.

 

[justsomebloke]

Good heavens, this thread is even more depressing than the game was. One shit game, and the Ole outers are straight out of the woodwork. Utterly pathetic.

 

[Solius]

There is your answer.

Doesn't mean the other team automatically deserve a win.

 

[Redfrog]

The worst thing was after our goal we just stopped playing like we were hanging for the win when it was a draw. In this kind of scenarios you need to go for the killer, but it was Sheffield who was attacking FFS. At this moment I knew we won't win this game.

 

[RRCE]

A terrible performance. We were bound to have one at some point, but there’s really no excuse for losing to that team. That’s why we’re in a top four battle, not a title race.

 

[SirMattlives]

Recorded this to watch later and just had a feeling it would not be good. Their second goal -- I mean really, I can't remember seeing such awful defending in a while. Still think we can finish the season well but whatever approach we're taking to defending, it needs revisiting. Ah, its frustrating...especially days after being Liverpool but that's the season. Crap game, let's move on.

 

[Schmeichel=God]

Shaw has been on the recieving end and has only come up stronger.

Aaaand.... that's about it.
You're right.
Gonne are the days of mental resiliance.

Still, i'd still do it. At least make them hurt.

I did think about Shaw...but yeah rinse them through good and proper with playing that back...the only problem is, after one run through everything points back to the lack of instruction and change from Ole. In which case it probably achieves a dressing room revolt

 

[oz insomniac]

What pissed me off rising early to watch this shambles, is the half arsed play of Martial . Wouldn’t bother to put a run tracker on the lazy wanker, wouldn’t register a 100 metres for the whole game. Rashford‘s touch is getting worse and he has been read well by the opposition, let him run
into corners and lose control.

De Gea was almost embarrassing tonight, his lack of control of the 6 yard box is comical.

Ole subs are baffling, take off Greenwood and leave the underperforming favourite Martial on, didn’t make any sense at the time and why was Donny not brought on earlier for some energy, made no sense.

some home truths tonight and if Ole persists with Martial , then questions of his management need to be raised. I

 

[portrushred]

So much hysterical teeth nashing in here... knackered team, off night against a team playing their biggest match of the season. Lets move on with a big reaction that carries us through for another sustained period of time.

 

[wolvored]

Oles gone on about their first goal was a foul and ours wasnt and he isnt going to hold an inquest. Hes also mentioned the possession. What about the other hour and half we were shit with the possession?

 

[Judas]

So much hysterical teeth nashing in here... knackered team, off night against a team playing their biggest match of the season. Lets move on with a big reaction that carries us through for another sustained period of time.

It wasn't Sheffield biggest game of the season, and I genuinely don't think they even played that well. They deserved to win, but it wasn't some heroic defensive performance, where they had to make lots of last ditch tackles, and the keeper played a blinder. We were shite, and did nothing.

 

[Heinzesight]

Sad thing is, you just know City will score a bucketload against them at the weekend.

Gutted tonight.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

To get it back to 1-1, allow the game to drift and then lose anyway is absolutely criminal.

 

[MrBest]

Ole's got to go with Henderson as 1st choice. He probably isn't going to be a world beater but he does the basics well and doesn't at times look like the Charlie Chaplin of goalkeeping either.

I think De Gea has been great this season, much better on previous years. Yes he made a few errors today but i think he should still be ahead of Henderson. In the 10 or so games Dean has played, he has not really set the pitch on fire, distribution wise which is possibly the main area De Gea lacks.

 

[Judas]

To get it back to 1-1, allow the game to drift and then lose anyway is absolutely criminal.

Yep. If we don't gift them that second, you wouldn't be shocked if we bundle in a lucky winner and steal it. But for once, it didn't go our way.

 

[Sultan]

It was a lethargic and lazy performance. Reminded me of similar performances before Bruno arriving with Lingard and Pereira in the middle.

Rashford, when he has no space to run into is a different player. Martial, with all his talent, needs to do the hard graft. Still, it's been an incredible run, and hopefully, this is just a glitch.

 

[justsomebloke]

Agree with every point made, we are awful and living in a dreamworld if we think we will win anything with the way the club is at the moment. Unfortunately I can't see anything changing.

"The way the club is at the moment" is that we're second in the PL and just beat Liverpool out of the FA Cup. "The way many of our supporters are at the moment" on the other hand is that even in a situation where I'm consumed with disgust over this awful performance, multiple posters manage to be so much worse than that that I actually sit down and type that reminder. As angry as I am with, say, Anthony Martial, at least he doesn't have the attention span of a goldfish. You and your ilk are a far, far bigger annoyance than any player's performance tonight, and you do not deserve anything good this club may happen to give you in the future.

 

[Heinzesight]

What pissed me off rising early to watch this shambles, is the half arsed play of Martial . Wouldn’t bother to put a run tracker on the lazy wanker, wouldn’t register a 100 metres for the whole game. Rashford‘s touch is getting worse and he has been read well by the opposition, let him run
into corners and lose control.

De Gea was almost embarrassing tonight, his lack of control of the 6 yard box is comical.

Ole subs are baffling, take off Greenwood and leave the underperforming favourite Martial on, didn’t make any sense at the time and why was Donny not brought on earlier for some energy, made no sense.

some home truths tonight and if Ole persists with Martial , then questions of his management need to be raised. I

I can only think Martial has some rather compromising nudes of Solskjaer hidden away somewhere.

 

[VivaRonaldo85]

I was living in denial for the last couple of months thinking that we were title contenders again but that 90 mins against one of the poorest teams in PL history has reminded me that the honeymoon is well and truly over. Some observations to take away:

- DDG at fault for both goals. Old Father Time has caught up and Henderson’s time is getting closer by the day.
- The defending for the second goal was jaw droppingly atrocious and just odd to watch. It all happened in slow motion.
- When we bring in a few of the ‘squad players’ our levels in quality and intensity drop off - zero quality squad depth.
- No more excuses for Martial. The next 18 games he is playing for his future at this club and is on very thin ice. Twenty games into a season is not a blip.
- Our 3 main forwards from last season have scored 10 goals between them in the PL this season. Rashy 7, Greenwood 2, Martial 1. You simply cannot consider winning leagues with that poorer fire power up front.
- More dynamic subs from Ole wouldn’t go amiss when we’re clearly flat and running out of ideas. For example, go 4-4-2 tonight, take matic, martial and Telles off and bring Cavani, Mata and Shaw on. This waiting around for 80 mins is not good enough in games like tonight.
- We were obviously shafted by the two refereeing decisions for the goal and non goal at corners.

I’m going for a lie down.

 

[MikeeMike]

A terrible performance. We were bound to have one at some point, but there’s really no excuse for losing to that team. That’s why we’re in a top four battle, not a title race.

Sadly, this was exactly my feeling.

 

[drunkmonkmeth]

I'm pretty furious after this one.. should this starting 11 be able to beat SU? yes 100% but should we be resting key players in the premier league when we are trying to challenge for the title? feck no. absolutely not.. HUGE mistake by ole.. i really hope hes learned from this. We didnt show sheffield respect by fielding our best 11.. and we paid for it in the most embarrassing fashion.. to add to the stupidity that ole displayed today with his line up.. this is a side that put 2 past us last time we played them.. WE ABSOLUTELY should not be resting players in a premier league game when we are trying to challenge for the title, but to rest them vs a team who had not much issue scoring against us in our previous match.. absolutely idiotic and criminal. putting in an inexperienced CB and a LB who cannot defend???? Ole has done a great job recently.. but his tinkering has come back to bite us and him in the ass.

I could go on and lay into some of the players.. but its much of the same from our under performers of late.. martial should be where ever we have put jesse lingard. He deserves to be no where near our first time premier league squad actual.. just swap places with jese.. I'd much rather see him play than martial.. actually fecking useless this season and its not improving.

 

[nainaisson]

Seemed like a reenactment of the Crystal Palace at Old Trafford game last season, with Tuanzebe playing Lindelof and Bruno playing Lingard.

 

[kirk buttercup]

A terrible performance. We were bound to have one at some point, but there’s really no excuse for losing to that team. That’s why we’re in a top four battle, not a title race.

This is spot on . Dont think much more needs to be said really . Very Disappointing.

 

[Fts 74]

Awful performance against an awful team.

That game shouldve been 1-1 or 2-2 clear foul on De Gea then our goal disallowed you either give them both or disallow them both but the defending for their 2nd goal was absolutely comical, so many opportunities to prevent it incredible really.

Big reality check but not the end of the world, i for one never thought we were winning the league, as Ole says its how we respond to this hopefully we turn up on Saturday against an average Arsenal.

 

[Oldtraffordboy]

There's about 3-4 PL games where it's worth starting Mata instead of one of the pace merchants, and this was one of them

 

[Fitchett]

I've deliberately waited until now, as I am still fuming. Gutless displays from Martial and De Gea, which sapped the enthusiasm out of the rest of our players and gave encouragement to Sheffield United to get a fluke win. OGS deserves criticism for again waiting far too long to make subs. Cavani and Mata should have come on at half time. Plus, we were on the wrong end of an appalling decision to disallow Martial's goal in the first half. Where was VAR? We'll never win the league with bottlers such as Martial and De Gea in the team. Tuanzebe was poor, and Rashford and Greenwood again showed their lack of guile in how to unlock a packed defence.

Sheffield United turned up at Old Trafford tonight with the all-time PL record for the worst record at the halfway stage of the season, 5 points. Unbelievable that we gifted them a win through sheer complacency.

 

[bdspeedy]

Worse than the Watford loss last year.

 

[red woppit]

This game highlights the fact that we need to improve some of our squad, the lack of movement up front was particularly noticeable.
We tried a few long balls over the top, which almost worked for Greenwood and Bruno, which meant that Sheffield United's defence drop almost to the penalty area, which made any through ball difficult to judge, and many were cut out.
When teams are playing 7 or 8 players in defence, it will always be difficult to break down. City lost several games last season by being unable to break down a packed defence, and succumbing to counter attacks.
The first goal was a push on De Gea, Sharp went into De Gea's back with both hands and his shoulder, and did physically move De Gea in the air, VAR felt it was not enough to disallow the goal, which comes down, I believe, to Klopp's comments last week. Our disallowed goal was the ref's decision, which was poor, as Peter Walton said, he blew up too quick, that was bad luck for us.
I thought AWB had a good game, and he got in several good positions, but I wish he would bomb down that line a lot more, Telles disappointed me, I thought he was an attacking full back, we needed both to take up wide positions every time we went forward.
Cavani shows that our forwards need to be much more clever at creating space for themselves, but I agree that Greenwood was unfortunate to come of, as I thought that Martial and particularly Rashford were poor tonight, and I wouldn't have played both Matic and Pogba together, our build up would be painfully slow, although neither had bad games, Fred instead of Pogba for me, and VDB instead of Rashford, with both full backs higher up the pitch.
Disappointing game, and result, but I never thought we could challenge for the title this season, as we are part way through a complete refurbishment of the squad, I look forward to players like Laird, Diallo, Mejbri and Elanga getting into the first team.

 

[arthurka]

Been coming this. We have been scraping results with glimpses of good performances. But we have been poor for a while now despite the positive results. This was always going to happen in one of these games.

 

[Hoof the ball]

I feel sorry for Cavani. When he presses a CB with the ball, Martial and Rashford never press that CB's passing options, and so the other team easily plays their way out of defence. It's on Ole. There's only so many times you can blame Martial and Rashford until you realise that Ole is enabling them by always picking them.

If you're going to pick them then you should insist that they work hard, and if they don't work hard you don't reward them.

Pep never lets Mahrez, Jesus, Sterling, KDB not work hard off the ball.
Klopp never lets Salah, Firmino, Mane, Jota not work hard off the ball.
Hasenhuttl, Rodgers, even Mourinho! They all demand high work ethic from their front players!

 

[Mr Anderson]

The United of a few months back. Awful both on and off the pitch.

Underestimated Sheffield. Ole done too much rotation - slow out of the blocks and then the slow and questionable subs also cost us.

how in the name of god did Martial stay on the pitch? Just horrendous all round by everyone

 

[portrushred]

It wasn't Sheffield biggest game of the season, and I genuinely don't think they even played that well. They deserved to win, but it wasn't some heroic defensive performance, where they had to make lots of last ditch tackles, and the keeper played a blinder. We were shite, and did nothing.

Yeah but they were bang up for it and we were obviously struggling for energy. You could see it the whole way through the team. Results like this happened in years we ended as champions and Id inagine there'll be at least one or two more before the end of the season.
People posting 'Disgrace' etc... bit silly, really. Arsenal should be a nice open game and suit us better, hopefully a chance to score a big win and go on a nice run again.

 

[always_hoping]

From minute 1 the level of performance was way off from where it needed to be. Even at 1-1 I wasn't convinced Man United would kick on to win.

The manner of goals conceded was so frustrating as both was easy to prevent. The poor performance was highlighted by the lack of saves Ramsdale had to make.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

Props to Sheffield United defended excellently but we never really tested them. With Matic, Pogba and Bruno together the midfield is non existent apart from Pogba.
Whats 1 man supposed to do in midfield with no one to work off of. Not the first time we’ve had this issue this season.

Still no idea why Tuanzebe is though of as some sort of elite prospect for the future. He’s nothing but a pace merchant and isn’t fit to scrub Phil Jones boots.

Weirdly kind of felt like Bissaka was our best attacking threat and I was mildly impressed with him in this game. The rest were just not at it. So many bad 1st touches and poor passes it was unreal.

I know Harry got a goal but how on Earth has he gotten man of the match after some joke like defending throughout the whole game.

 

[Giggsy13]

Hopefully this ends all title talk now from some fans. I'm sure we will be 4 points behind City and still have to visit them. That alone is enough for anyone with sense to realise we are not winning it, nevermind the fact we may even miss out on top 4 altogether, it is that close right now. We will need to get a run together again ASAP.

This season overall has been a bit of a shambles and luckily we had been the best, points wise, for a while at least but performance wise we have scraped so many games and haven't been dominant in any. This is not knee jerk for me, I'm a realist but I have been happy to ride along on this surreal wave of positivity during this very strange Premier League campaign.

As our Semi finals and tonight has once again shown, this team has the spine of an athiritic 98 year old and our overall technical level and football intelligence is some way below the best teams. Ole again with his subs, Cavani and Shaw should have been on at HT but he again waits too long. My biggest concern now though is the board giving him a new contract, they must wait until the summer and only then if he deserves it by getting top 4 and a trophy.

Arsenal away next, a game I'm almost certain we will drop points in. Bubble well and truly burst tonight unfortunately.

At this stage if we can keep the gap less than 10 points with city then that’s an achievement. Today showed our level and that we still have far too many passengers and not enough leaders in this squad.

 

[Silverman]

How have we just lost at home to the team bottom of the league with 5 points after 19 games and only two different goalscorers all year.

Its just not good enough.

 

[Silverman]

At this stage if we can keep the gap less than 10 points with city to less than 10 points than that’s an achievement. Today showed our level and that we still have far too many passengers and enough leaders in this squad.

That's a good way to put it. "Not enough leaders".
Fernandes and Cavani are the only two leaders I can think that we have. Nowhere near enough to win a title.