Fernandinho's Munich air disaster twitter post?

[bdspeedy]

Emogees of an explosion, laughter and an airplane just somehow appear on the same line and it's an accident? Is this jerkoff so unsophisticated that he doesn't
see how inappropriate this is? Is it only ok because the team involved in the tragedy is English and not Brazilian? Or Spanish. Imagine the outrage --and rightly so-- if Scott McTominay posted something similar.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I'd be surprised if he even knew what today was let alone want to mock it.

He has a picture of him doing a header and an aeroplane celebration accompanying the emojis, no idea why United fans think mocks Munich.

No idea at all? Think harder. It'll come, eventually.

 

[Dinghy]

Probably some Bertie running his social media account. An utter bunch of classless cnuts from top to bottom. Been said many times before but money really does not buy you any class whatsoever.

This. Definitely someone trying to be clever, going with the "coincidence" excuse. Someone should look up if that photo is from the same day. If it's an old pic it leaves no doubt.

 

[padr81]

At best (if accidental) its a 3 game ban for being stupid on social media, if its intentional he should be sacked, no ifs or buts, out the door. Frank Swift died in that tragedy too so if its a dig at United (a sackable offence alone) its also a dig at City..

 

[Crustanoid]

Irrespective why aren’t the FA coming out with a statement right now? He needs a lengthy ban, given how they treated Cavani

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

racism is a serious crime against human being whereas fernandinho's post was completely innocent .

Making fun of an airplane crash is far worse than using a word which is innocuous in your own language.

 

[El Zoido]

Get out of here. You honestly think all those emojis and gestures are just one big coincidence? Not buying it, the guys been in Manchester long enough now to know all about the Munich disaster. He’s a scumbag plain and simple, don’t try and defend him.

Yep. Feck off is it a coincidence. A billion tweets from footballers over ten years and I don’t think any of them strung those emojis together before. Yet this pops up on the anniversary of the Munich air disaster. Get the feck out of here. And explosion and a plane on 6th Feb. Any United fan that thinks this is a coincidence needs their head checked. I bet he doesn’t run his Twitter account and some joker on their media team posted it.

 

[United58]

This is horrifying; there needs to be

At best (if accidental) its a 3 game ban for being stupid on social media, if its intentional he should be sacked, no ifs or buts, out the door. Frank Swift died in that tragedy too so if its a dig at United (a sackable offence alone) its also a dig at City..

Fair play to you for calling it out too. Both teams were hurt in the disaster. Swift was an honourable City servant, as were the 8 United players

 

[TrustInOle]

I checked back a year and seen no explosion or plane emojis.

There was loads of fire ones and laughing ones however

Thank you for that. I refuse to believe the plane reference wasn't intentional. Scumbag.

 

[Crustanoid]

It’s hardly even picked up in any news. If you’re looking for any proof of anti-United agenda here it is. Night and day-Cavani was all over every main news site within minutes. Fecking cocks

 

[mav_9me]

I'd be surprised if he even knew what today was let alone want to mock it.

He has a picture of him doing a header and an aeroplane celebration accompanying the emojis, no idea why United fans think mocks Munich.

Wow no idea huh.

Explosion, airplane and football has no relation to Munich air disaster huh?

 

[Santos J]

Didn't want to drag them into this, just that footballers can be absolute planks. Also see Tevez RIP Fergie sign.

Oh yeah 100%, just reading the story it seemed a bit of a stretch to call it them mocking 9/11 victims rather than just being drunk nobheads.

 

[lsd]

If it was purely coincidental or harmless, why even delete the tweet at all?

Well obviously because someone told him it was causing a fuss. That's not a sign of guilt didn't Cavani delete his when he became aware of it's effect

 

[mu4c_20le]

This. Definitely someone trying to be clever, going with the "coincidence" excuse. Someone should look up if that photo is from the same day. If it's an old pic it leaves no doubt.

I actually think if its intentional, then he did it himself and not some intern. He seems like the kind of tool who would try to be funny like that.

 

[TrustInOle]

At best (if accidental) its a 3 game ban for being stupid on social media, if its intentional he should be sacked, no ifs or buts, out the door. Frank Swift died in that tragedy too so if its a dig at United (a sackable offence alone) its also a dig at City..

The most logical unbiased answer. No way the prove intent upon this scenario so a ban would be most likely. Fair play @padr81 for knowing the history.

 

[UmbroDays]

Football. Airplane. Explosion. Laughing.

Just a random set of emojis that is totally meaningless on on February 6th. Complete misunderstanding.

You're completely overlooking the images on purpose and the training session probably took place on Friday.

Again, he's Brazilian and also has had fellow footballing countrymen die in a plane crash - so why would he choose to mock those who have died? Not to mention he probably doesn't even post his own content on social media.

I know he's a City player, but I just don't think there is anymore than a lack of knowledge to the situation. These football players live in their own bubble, especially the foreign ones - and the Munich disaster was hardly mentioned in the media this year outside of United game reports

Jesus, get a grip. Absolutely nothing to see here. Trying to make this into something to balance out the Cavani ban is absolute rank bad taste.

The explosion and football emotes are because he scored a powerful header. The plane and laughing emotes are for the celebration where he is pictured with a big grin on his face. This is my interpretation.

I honestly just think it was an unfortunate coincidence myself.

These are good points. Cavani just seems to be a stick to hit Fernadinho with, and nothing more than that. I think the timing was shit, but I won't place blame at his door and its impossible to do so. It's clear to those who take of the tinted specs for a second.

 

[elmo]

Exactly - they’ve set a precedent now. You can be punished regardless of intent just as long as what you said was offensive to someone, somewhere.

They’ve left themselves no choice but to punish him. And if they don’t, I’ll enjoy seeing how they wriggle out of it.

They'll do feck all

 

[kouroux]

Just ban him as a precaution

 

[RedDevil@84]

At best (if accidental) its a 3 game ban for being stupid on social media, if its intentional he should be sacked, no ifs or buts, out the door. Frank Swift died in that tragedy too so if its a dig at United (a sackable offence alone) its also a dig at City..

Doubt if it is possible to prove intention

 

[Jeppers7]

It’s the odds for me....it’s not impossible that it’s coincidental. But the odds of those emojis on that day? Incredible.

Also yes he does have a responsibility to be aware of such an event and the day of the tragedy living in Manchester as long as he has. There’s family members and team mates still alive.
At the very least it is incredibly insensitive.

 

[0le]

Is this a case of apophenia?

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

At best (if accidental) its a 3 game ban for being stupid on social media, if its intentional he should be sacked, no ifs or buts, out the door. Frank Swift died in that tragedy too so if its a dig at United (a sackable offence alone) its also a dig at City..

That's a good point too. Every year (including yesterday), the remembrance service makes a point of noting EVERYONE on that plane. The Rev did, the signs around the ground did, the poems did.

If he'd put 3 of those emojis, I'd say it was poor timing and maybe give him the benefit of the doubt (through grinded teeth), but the explosion one makes it pretty impossible to hide behind an "airplane goal celebration" excuse.

Look forward to the FA doing..... nothing.

 

[Sandikan]

It's one thing to do an airplane celebration in training. It's another thing to post it on social media on that day (of all days). It's another thing to use an airplane emoji on that social media post too.

I'm not convinced he didn't mean that.........but I hope I'm mistaken.

I read the first bit of the link, and immediately thought, anyone could stick their arms out to celebrate a goal. May mean nothing.

But posting a tweet with an actual aeroplane on and an explosion and laughter? If that's true that's breathtakingly ugly behaviour that I think he'll be lucky not to met with physical confrontation in the street over.

 

[Sandikan]

To be honest some of our players hardly knew about what day it was never mind City players

Did you read the article?

 

[Amir]

And I personally don't care if it was an honest mistake. He deserves punishment imo.

So he should be punished even if this had nothing to do with Munich?

 

[Feed Me]

The old saying is never attribute to malice what can be easily explained by stupidity, right?

In this case I think it's intentional.

And I personally don't care if it was an honest mistake. He deserves punishment imo.

If there’s no intent, or even awareness, then what would you be punishing him for?

 

[Jippy]

Should be given a ban, regardless of what he meant by it. When Cavani made his tweet, he was banned even though the tweet didn't mean what he was given the ban for.

Do you think that is a legitimate basis for a ban?

 

[Red00012]

Did you read the article?

Obviously ?

 

[Zlatan 7]

This is bad, I think it’s one of those where he knows what he’s doing but it’s vague enough that he can try and duck it once he’s got what he wanted by posting it

 

[Rado_N]

Jesus, what an unfathomable cnut.

 

[Sandikan]

If there’s no intent, or even awareness, then what would you be punishing him for?

The first thing you learn when you become an adult is actions have consequences.
Ignorance of the law isn't an albi etc.

Cavani just got a 3 match ban for an actual misunderstanding.
Here you have a guy "accidentally" giving it the aeroplane, both with his own arms and with an emoticon, and an explosion and laughter on the Munich anniversary?!

How could that be unintentional? What's the explosion and laughter about? Scoring a goal!?

 

[Sandikan]

Obviously ?

So you think doing an aeroplane AND then posting an explosion, aeroplane logo and laughter just happens to be innocent, on Munich anniversary day?

 

[Stookie]

Looks like you need to be a cnut to be any part of that shitty club. From the fans to the board to the staff to the players. I want to say I’m surprised but no amount of shit that’s thrown from that club in the direction of United surprises me.

 

[Feed Me]

The first thing you learn when you become an adult is actions have consequences.
Ignorance of the law isn't an albi etc.

Cavani just got a 3 match ban for an actual misunderstanding.
Here you have a guy "accidentally" giving it the aeroplane, both with his own arms and with an emoticon, and an explosion and laughter on the Munich anniversary?!

How could that be unintentional? What's the explosion and laughter about? Scoring a goal!?

Your entire position is based on inference and innuendo, but no actual facts. I just cannot believe that Fernandinho has done anything other than post something with highly unfortunate timing.

 

[Red00012]

So you think doing an aeroplane AND then posting an explosion, aeroplane logo and laughter just happens to be innocent, on Munich anniversary day?

Yes I’ve said this already ?

 

[hasanejaz88]

No idea at all? Think harder. It'll come, eventually.

Wow no idea huh.

Explosion, airplane and football has no relation to Munich air disaster huh?

If you believe the entire world revolves around you and everyone knows what 6th of February signifies then fine believe that he was mocking Munich.

If you want to try to look at some context from the picture posted of him playing football and doing an airplane celebration, then you'll see that it is not mocking anything and throw away any outrage.

As I said, I don't think he would even know what 6th of February means for United.

 

[Pexbo]

If you believe the entire world revolves around you and everyone knows what 6th of February signifies then fine believe that he was mocking Munich.

If you want to try to look at some context from the picture posted of him playing football and doing an airplane celebration, then you'll see that it is not mocking anything and throw away any outrage.

As I said, I don't think he would even know what 6th of February means for United.

He’s been playing for our rivals, in the same City for the last decade. Of course he fecking knows, he’s not some random Brazilian playing in Turkey or Portugal who would have had no way of knowing or caring. He’s played in derby matches where City fans have been giving it the same “Airplane” celebration while singing horrific songs about Munich.

He knew exactly what he was doing, it’s fecking cute to say otherwise.

 

[hellhunter]

If you believe the entire world revolves around you and everyone knows what 6th of February signifies then fine believe that he was mocking Munich.

If you want to try to look at some context from the picture posted of him playing football and doing an airplane celebration, then you'll see that it is not mocking anything and throw away any outrage.

As I said, I don't think he would even know what 6th of February means for United.

This is someone living in Manchester for 8 (or so) years. Playing for a club that honours the tragedy annualy. I know people tend to be ignorant, but in this situation, not realizing what the date means is entirely on him.

 

[arthurka]

Not a chance that's a accidental.

 

[Sandikan]

Your entire position is based on inference and innuendo, but no actual facts. I just cannot believe that Fernandinho has done anything other than post something with highly unfortunate timing.

No facts?
Did he not post a tweet icluding aeroplanes, explosions and laughter?

I know you like to take the "opposite" angle on this forum, but it's a real stretch to say it's a coincidence.