At the end of this season, Maguire needs to be removed as Captain

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They’ve been so desperate to have a go at Maguire who’s been excellent for ages now that they’re blaming him for a Fred mistake, how sad are some people :lol:
Er, no. I haven’t had a go at Maguire in ages but if I see something I have an issue with I’m not just going keep quiet.
 

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Just as bad or worse. We’re comparing De Jong, Busquets, Kimmich to Fred now. If one of them played for us than we can play out the back all we want. We don’t have anyone remotely as press-resistant.
Yeah, but that’s for the Ole/playing out from the back thread. It’s not reasonable to expect Maguire to take into account the player he’s passing a decently weighted ball too, especially here at United. If Fred can’t play under pressure from only one player, then he shouldn’t play period!

For context, Xhaka did the exact same thing against Burnley, and we all called him all sorts of names. Arsenal fans did too. This is exactly the same but probably worse, because Xhaka actually had two or three men around him.
 

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So everyone has to receive the ball when then ask for it. Maguire got tunnel vision. He had 4 other options there and yet he chooses to pass between two strikers. And onto two oncoming midfielders. It was a brainless pass.
Fred had a bit of space and was good to recieve the ball like he does all the time. Tielemanns wasn't even right up his arse. In that position it's totally normal to trust in your team mates.
 

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He's a brainless fecking idiot. Who in the right mind plays that pass. Even if your team-mate asks for the ball, he ought to know better. Pathetic.
You’re also one of those! Hope that helps.
 

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He needs to sort out his hair. And hopefully before the end of the season.
 

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So if, as a Man United player, you know Fred is shit at receiving the ball, you still take the risk and pass it there to him?

That makes you the most non-Man United player ever.
Not only the pass was sent into Fred:
- it was also clumsy
- you never pass in front of your goal, perpendicular to your own goal line. If another player intercepts, it's the shortest distance towards the keeper.
- he passed to Fred while himself being pressured and also Fred having another player onto him.
Surely there is no defence of Fred here? Or am I reading it wrong?
he’s played Leicester in twice
 

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Nah I don’t agree at all. Either we’re trying to play out from the back or we’re not. Football is coached through repetition and I’m 99% sure Ole will be wanting him to play that ball.

If Fred makes the first time pass, Henderson can pass to Telles, and the midfielder who pressed Fred is out of position. It’s basic stuff.
Play out from back, by all means but play it to Telles or Lindelof or anyone else. Sometimes the pass isn’t on.
 

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Just remove will do, along with the manager, who made him captain.
This. Not because of that idiotic pass, but because he's not good enough. The fact that he's Manchester United captain gives me headaches. Opposition fans must be laughing at that.
 

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If you going to call someone an idiot at least have the bollocks to tag you piss ant.
Are you 12?
There's a few of you over emotional types madly blaming Maguire due to your pre-existing bias against him, i'm not tagging the 3-4 of you, it's obvious. My post follows the comments!

Followed by a lot of us calling it out as idiotic.
 

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Er, no. I haven’t had a go at Maguire in ages but if I see something I have an issue with I’m not just going keep quiet.
You're sad, Fred messed it up, nothing to do with Maguire, centre half’s play that ball regularly, you just couldn’t wait to have a go at Maguire because he’s been amazing for ages.
 

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Yeah, but that’s for the Ole/playing out from the back thread. It’s not reasonable to expect Maguire to take into account the player he’s passing a decently weighted ball too, especially here at United. If Fred can’t play under pressure from only one player, then he shouldn’t play period!

For context, Xhaka did the exact same thing against Burnley, and we all called him all sorts of names. Arsenal fans did too. This is exactly the same but probably worse, because Xhaka actually had two or three men around him.
Really I just bumped the first thread I seen. I don’t care much for the obsession whom is captain.
 

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Watching the replay, that was the most stupid pass Maguire could pick out of all players he could choose. Fred was shite, but Maguire had no reason to play that pass.
 

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Some people just shouldn't watch football. Passes like that are played all the fecking time.
 

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Crazy to blame Maguire for Fred not being able to control a simple pass and then make a simple pass himself.

As an aside I find the obsession over which player gets to wear a little arm band around their bicep to be really really strange. It does not matter.
Yep, these days, it's all about keeping the ball and playing it out.

If you can't rely on your centre mid receiving a simple pass and not playing it straight to a rival, I think it says more about the midfielder.
 

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I'm no fan of Maguire I think he's average for what's expected of him and overrated especially on this site but can't be blamed for that play whereby Fred has caused the goal through his pass.

Fred did the exact same thing against Everton, he's awful in possession must be doing star jumps with Carrick in training.
 

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Maguire had three passes on there - both full backs are unmarked to his left and right for a simple pass. It was too casual from him but Fred makes a bad situation even worse through a dire pass back to the keeper.
 

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It's a pity. The guy who I feel should be captain and imo, the player these lads look up to does not want to be here.
 

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People, watch the bloody replay and Maguire had at least 3 other passes on. Fred is absolutely shite for not controlling the ball but it wouldn’t have happened if he maybe had look and anticipated the situation better.
 

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Watching the replay, that was the most stupid pass Maguire could pick out of all players he could choose. Fred was shite, but Maguire had no reason to play that pass.
Fred plays a first time pass to Henderson who then picks out a Utd player and it’s a non event
He messed up just before then as well
Great at what he does but he should just be left to get on with breaking up play
 

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So if, as a Man United player, you know Fred is shit at receiving the ball, you still take the risk and pass it there to him?

That makes you the most non-Man United player ever.
Not only the pass was sent into Fred:
- it was also clumsy
- you never pass in front of your goal, perpendicular to your own goal line. If another player intercepts, it's the shortest distance towards the keeper.
- he passed to Fred while himself being pressured and also Fred having another player onto him.
:lol:

Genuinely disagree with every single word of that post. There's no reasonable grounds for us ever to agree, so there's no point us discussing it.
 

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Put it this was, if Fred controls that normally, plays a normal pass to Hendo who plays it out wide and we keep the ball...not a single person anywhere would even consider that Maguire made a poor decision.
 

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Maguire had three passes on there - both full backs are unmarked to his left and right for a simple pass. It was too casual from him but Fred makes a bad situation even worse through a dire pass back to the keeper.
Maguire could’ve passed it to someone else, but I’m guessing he didn’t envisage Fred to lay it off perfectly for Iheanacho. It’s one of those basic expectations of a footballer earning £200k per week.
 

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Wasn't a great pass from Maguire but Fred clearly called for the pass his first touch was horrible his second even worse
 

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I can’t believe Maguire has been blamed for this. It’s remarkable and ridiculous simultaneously.
 

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Put it this was, if Fred controls that normally, plays a normal pass to Hendo who plays it out wide and we keep the ball...not a single person anywhere would even consider that Maguire made a poor decision.
It's always going to be a hospital ball. Fred's pass is another topic but Maguire should never play a pass to a player facing back towards goal with 3 players closing him down. It reeked of him just wanting somebody else to have the ball.
 
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He should keep on being captain. I don't see anyone else better in that role than him at the moment.
 

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Isn’t the point of playing out to draw the opposition press and beat it? Maguire has done nothing wrong there and a midfielder at this level should be capable of avoiding laying a pass into the striker.
 

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It's always going to be a hospitable ball. Fred's pass is another topic but Maguire should never play a pass to a player facing back towards goal with 3 players closing him down. It reeked of him just wanting somebody else to have the ball.
That’s exactly what I thought. Look at it again, the goal. He has plenty of options on but it’s just like tunnel-vision. Must pass the ball to Fred. Well no, you don’t. Have a quick look and pass it to Telles or AWB.
 

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Isn’t the point of playing out to draw the opposition press and beat it? Maguire has done nothing wrong there and a midfielder at this level should be capable of avoiding laying a pass into the striker.
Of course but do you see much pattern in our play? The only pattern that I see is that we constantly give the ball away by making poor passing decisions. We don’t look after the ball anywhere near enough or move it fast enough. Not unless we’re on the break.
 

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Fred plays a first time pass to Henderson who then picks out a Utd player and it’s a non event
He messed up just before then as well
Great at what he does but he should just be left to get on with breaking up play
Any pass that involves passing it back to a keeper is wrong pass. WB was wide open on the right.