I've seen plenty of Leicester games this season and this was one of their better ones. They look no better than us most of the time if not worse. What has stood out is their midfield, it's just far better balanced than any combination we can put out.
FA L FA Cup Quarter-Finals
Leicester City 3:1 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Sun, 21 March 2021
Whether Haaland is gay or straight, he is at the right club - Dortmund. They have a good track record of developing young players.
We have a track record of destroying players and then selling them on.
I remember you saying City would be nowhere near winning the league this year too.
Sorry buddy, but the odds of winning the EL are near zero.
This set of players don't have a track record of winning trophies and our manager has a track record of losing key matches which see us getting dumped out of competitions.
Last year the same thing was said, "I think we should try and win the EL".
My reply was just as it is now, "it's a difficult trophy to win and when we won it under Jose, the stars aligned."
I'm sure he's thrilled sitting at 5th and the prospect of EL football next year.
In all seriousness, Leicester had a lot more rest than we did and were up for a match we just could never get off the blocks for. Of the three competitions we were in as of yesterday this was one by far the least important. And to be fair to Leicester City, they're actually a very decent side.
But it's hard to look past Fred as a footballer who completely collapsed today. Everything about him screamed incompetence and lack of concentration. But I'd like to call out Anthony Martial as a footballer who should have turned in at least some effort but really didn't give a shit about what was happening on the pitch. Fred, incompetent though he was, at least put in a high energy effort. This is not to absolve him of his incompetence, but at least he put in some effort. Anthony did not.
But it's hard to look past Fred as a footballer who completely collapsed today. Everything about him screamed incompetence and lack of concentration. But I'd like to call out Anthony Martial as a footballer who should have turned in at least some effort but really didn't give a shit about what was happening on the pitch. Fred, incompetent though he was, at least put in a high energy effort. This is not to absolve him of his incompetence, but at least he put in some effort. Anthony did not.
This forum is embarrassing. We’ve got two threads mocking Liverpool and City and the content I see on here is far worse than 99% of what goes on on those sites. The moderators seem to allow it to go unchecked, probably because half of them seen to hold the same opinions.
It’s gone downhill ever since they stopped with the “10 likes” policy. You’ve got every FIFA-playing, never-been-to-OT, never kicked a ball numpty on the Internet creating pointless thread after pointless thread every single time we lose a game of football.
We’re 2nd. We won a Europa League Qtr Final 72 hours ago. Leicester are 3rd and have had a week off. We looked mentally and physically shot. It happens. It’s one of the most significant and under appreciated stats in football. Teams suffer after playing European away games midweek. The PPG statistics are there for all to see.
Are there any decent forums were actual Utd fans who actually go to Utd games can talk sensibly about Utd or is it just this s**te or nothing?
It’s gone downhill ever since they stopped with the “10 likes” policy. You’ve got every FIFA-playing, never-been-to-OT, never kicked a ball numpty on the Internet creating pointless thread after pointless thread every single time we lose a game of football.
We’re 2nd. We won a Europa League Qtr Final 72 hours ago. Leicester are 3rd and have had a week off. We looked mentally and physically shot. It happens. It’s one of the most significant and under appreciated stats in football. Teams suffer after playing European away games midweek. The PPG statistics are there for all to see.
Are there any decent forums were actual Utd fans who actually go to Utd games can talk sensibly about Utd or is it just this s**te or nothing?
I did? I don't remember saying that.
I did predict that Liverpool would win the league but they fell apart spectacularly (and I'm not sad to see that).
If we win the EL, you can say "I told you so" and I will be happier than most that we have won a trophy for the first time in several years, but our recent track record is not of winning trophies.
Another issue we have is that if Bruno does not play well, we lose/draw. We are too reliant on Bruno turning in a great performance.
You genuinely think it’s close to impossible to beat Granada, probably Ajax and then probably Arsenal?
Are you being completely serious? More chance of winning the lottery? We have beaten City, Liverpool, AC Milan, PSG this season. Don’t forget over the last 12 months we actually haven’t lost many games.
Im not saying we will win it or we are favourites, but to say you have more chance of winning the lottery is strange.
Sweet fecking Jesus
We are huge favourites but ok mate.
Only because I remember responding to it in the Ole out thread (can't quote) you said:
"In case people don't know, MCFC are in 9th place. They are playing terribly and enduring one of their worst seasons since they got their oil money.
This is definitely not a team that will win the league or get close."
They were favourites for the league at the time.
We're favourites for the Europa, it doesn't mean we'll win as there are good sides left in it but we've got more than 0% chance. Hopefully it goes the same way as your City prediction.
I agree with the middle paragraphs and put a different perspective on today's result.
Regarding the moaning which is going on in this thread - fans want to win a trophy....it's been a while. And the FA Cup was probably our best chance, so now that we have been dumped out of the FA Cup, it feels pretty depressing.
Another years of no trophies (unless we somehow win the EL, which is not easy).
Good team? A crap!
Arriving back in Manchester early Friday morning played a big part, but they were wo Madison and Barnes.
Fred and Martial very poor. Ndidi and Tielemans bossing midfield. Rodgers outsmarting Ole.
I agree with you that the midfield pair compliment each other well, but that is another failing of the manager that it hasn’t been rectified. Serious money has been spent.
The buck stops with the manager and he can’t win important games and can’t get us playing good football consistently despite a wealth of resources.
Also, your sister.
Well we have won important games so that’s not true we’d just beat Milan and just beat city
We also beat Leicester to qualify for the cl last year
he’s spent it in areas that needed improving, now we need cm, can’t tackle all problems at once.
We had a heroic victory away in Milan just a couple of nights before today, and a heroic victory away to City a week or two ago.
Our first team players are shattered tired. We don't have the strength in depth of City or Chelsea.
Ole gives a few of our first teamers a much needed rest today, resulting in a poor performance and suddenly it's all doom and gloom again. We are prioritising the Europa League over the FA Cup which is the right thing to do.
Werner, Havertz, Ziyech at Chelsea are all showing that some of the highest rated young stars from around Europe often need 6 months of playing week in week out in the PL before they are ready to adjust to the tempo. The same went for Fred and Lindelof, and the same will go for Donny Van De Beek, so expect more poor performances from him until he has been given a fair chance.
Our first team players are shattered tired. We don't have the strength in depth of City or Chelsea.
Ole gives a few of our first teamers a much needed rest today, resulting in a poor performance and suddenly it's all doom and gloom again. We are prioritising the Europa League over the FA Cup which is the right thing to do.
Werner, Havertz, Ziyech at Chelsea are all showing that some of the highest rated young stars from around Europe often need 6 months of playing week in week out in the PL before they are ready to adjust to the tempo. The same went for Fred and Lindelof, and the same will go for Donny Van De Beek, so expect more poor performances from him until he has been given a fair chance.
Anyone got any clue why VDB was randomly trusted for such an important game? I don't even remember when he last played, he usually looks completely on a different wavelength to the rest of the team, so how else was it going to go today.
He made too many changes, I know we played EL game on Thursday, but so many of those players I expected to let us down.
He made too many changes, I know we played EL game on Thursday, but so many of those players I expected to let us down.
Some of the comments here! Leicester are a better team? Outplayed? Give me a break.
Leicester were average. United handed them 3 goals and looked knackered after a really tough run of fixtures with the entire attack missing.
Fred for the first, Matic for the 2nd and McTominay for the 3rd were incredible errors. There was a spell for the last 15 minutes of the first half where United seemed to give the ball away every time they had it.
They shot themselves in the foot and cost themselves the game.
Wan Bissaka's lack of quality is a major issue for this team. He had countless opportunities to produce in the final third and couldn't have done any worse if he tried. When he could have teed McTominay up for a shot and hit him on the knee was my particular favourite. Playing Telles at right back has to be an option.
Also, Matic looks absolutely finished. Midfield reinforcements are key this summer whether Pogba stays or not.
Leicester were average. United handed them 3 goals and looked knackered after a really tough run of fixtures with the entire attack missing.
Fred for the first, Matic for the 2nd and McTominay for the 3rd were incredible errors. There was a spell for the last 15 minutes of the first half where United seemed to give the ball away every time they had it.
They shot themselves in the foot and cost themselves the game.
Wan Bissaka's lack of quality is a major issue for this team. He had countless opportunities to produce in the final third and couldn't have done any worse if he tried. When he could have teed McTominay up for a shot and hit him on the knee was my particular favourite. Playing Telles at right back has to be an option.
Also, Matic looks absolutely finished. Midfield reinforcements are key this summer whether Pogba stays or not.
Wasn't confident Matic starting today, an out of form, returning Martial, and VDB, but yeah, team was obviously knackered from Thursday, we were always going to be up against it today.
I don’t so much mind the moaning. Sometimes it’s justified. I’m just sick of logging in and seeing the hysterical opinions dominating each and every thread.
No problem with people saying “player x was poor, Ole should have done x, y, z etc...’. The stuff I have a problem with is logging in and seeing about 4 more “Ole out” threads and the same posters hammering every single one of our players and the manager.
I come on this forum to talk to United fans about United. If I wanted to talk about how crap United are and how crap all of our players are and how crap Ole is I’d head over to RAWK or Bluemoon or The Shed End.
When we have a manager who says winning a trophy is all about ego's and crash out with a whimper in the quarters of the fa cup then you know you're in some serious mire.
Absolute rubbish, stank the place out.
Absolute rubbish, stank the place out.
Still so sad at that loss. I was worried about our exhausted team facing a fresh Leicester in a rich vein of form. And it told today. Combined with our well known incompetent central midfield, they simply outplayed us. If we don't win EL, it will be a very depressing season, even if we finish second in the league. The team (including our underwhelming manager) need to get some winning experience soon!
Did you ever see the forums on the official united website?
On the day, yes, that’s right. The players weren’t good enough and made lots of errors, and Ole made the situation worse with his decision making. You saw something else and are pleased with the performance? Got it.
This sums it up very well.
This is basically the Glazers fault. Either rise up against them or carry on slating the day to day stuff ie Ole
That's true, but just as they were without Maddison and Barnes we were without Fernandes and Shaw (in the first half) and Rashford, and I would add De Gea who really is the better keeper.
I won't quibble with the starting XI, except to say that I would like to see VdB anbd Bruno together, which I realize means only one of Fred, McTominay and Matic starting. In such a circumstance, I'd definitely go with Bailly over Lindelof, who put in a decent enough shift today but to me is inferior to a fit Bailly.
But today wasn't the day to field our best XI as we do have to be mindful of fitness and risk of injury, regardless of whether an international break is coming up. Looking back, though, I would have gone with this:
Henderson (fine, bench De Gea)
AWB Bailly Maguire Telles (Shaw is superior, but Telles needs games)
McTominay
Van De Beek Fernandes Pogba
Greenwood Martial (I'm sick of Martial's laziness, but we had no choice)
The obvious objection would be that McTominay would get overrun, but I have a lot of confidence in Bailly, which I realize most here don't share. But the front foot would have been ours, Bruno's and Pogba's long and mid range passing complementing Donny's short range passing. If we could somehow shoot a rocket up the ass of Martial, who has no claim to being fatigued, we could have sliced up a decent but far from commanding Leicester City back line.
But as it was, Leicester City fully deserved the win, regardless of the fact that we gifted them three gilt-lined goals, the first being shocking beyond all belief.
What you say makes perfect sense. But many here are too upset at us losing and being out of FA cup and prefer to look for a scapegoat or two.
I don't understand what Solskjaer is doing.
Why is he so determined to play Pogba on the left wing that he'll literally sacrifice our midfield and the game to do it, yet when Rashford, our only capable left winger is fit, he wont fecking play him on the left wing half the time?
Why is it so hard to play people in their positions? Or failing that, at least show some kind of basic consistently with the reason why you aren't playing people in their positions. Or, failing that, at least not pick people who you know wont be able to do their job (Matic) in order to facilitate playing someone else out of position?
I know its supposedly easy to armchair manage, but I know for a fact that Pogba isn't a left winger and I know for a fac tthat Matic is too slow to play in a premiership midfield. I don't need to wait until 65 minutes into a game to figure these things out.
You shouldn't be able to look at your own team's line up and see why it wont work and what will need to be changedbefore the game has even kicked off, but this happens all the time with us, because Ole sticks with the same things that he already knows wont work, and then fecks around endlessly with the things that do work.
Why is he so determined to play Pogba on the left wing that he'll literally sacrifice our midfield and the game to do it, yet when Rashford, our only capable left winger is fit, he wont fecking play him on the left wing half the time?
Why is it so hard to play people in their positions? Or failing that, at least show some kind of basic consistently with the reason why you aren't playing people in their positions. Or, failing that, at least not pick people who you know wont be able to do their job (Matic) in order to facilitate playing someone else out of position?
I know its supposedly easy to armchair manage, but I know for a fact that Pogba isn't a left winger and I know for a fac tthat Matic is too slow to play in a premiership midfield. I don't need to wait until 65 minutes into a game to figure these things out.
You shouldn't be able to look at your own team's line up and see why it wont work and what will need to be changedbefore the game has even kicked off, but this happens all the time with us, because Ole sticks with the same things that he already knows wont work, and then fecks around endlessly with the things that do work.
I think the united players thought we were playing in blue The passing was diabolical. The midfield was awful,.Why does the manager need to make so many changes,there is not much else to play for. Do the basics right and the
rest will fall into place.The manager and coaching staff are.not up to the job.
The changes should have come half time .
rest will fall into place.The manager and coaching staff are.not up to the job.
The changes should have come half time .
Beaten by the better coach. Outplayed from start to finish. They are beatable but we were watt-less. zero creativity
Some overreaction on here
everyone needs a good nights sleep it won’t seem so bad in the morning.
let’s just go with Southampton would have beaten us anyway ole and semi finals and all that
everyone needs a good nights sleep it won’t seem so bad in the morning.
let’s just go with Southampton would have beaten us anyway ole and semi finals and all that
Wait a fecking minute... I watched the first half and part of the second, Matic played?!!!?!?!?!?
By one point. Don't be surprised when they finish above us by the end of the season.
I was on that forum before I came here , I wonder why they got rid
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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11%
Paul Pogba
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10%
Victor Lindelof
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4%
Harry Maguire
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4%
Luke Shaw
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3%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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3%
Alex Telles
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2%
Bruno Fernandes
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1%
Fred
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1%
Amad Diallo
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1%
Dean Henderson
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1%
Donny van de Beek
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 274 ratings.
Score Predictions
121,26,15
- Man Utd win
- Leicester win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 38% Leicester 1:2 Man Utd
- 15% Leicester 0:2 Man Utd
- 11% Leicester 2:1 Man Utd
- 9% Leicester 0:1 Man Utd
- 7% Leicester 1:3 Man Utd
- 6% Leicester 1:1 Man Utd
- 4% Leicester 2:0 Man Utd
- 2% Leicester 0:3 Man Utd
- 2% Leicester 2:2 Man Utd
- 2% Leicester 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Leicester 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% Leicester 1:0 Man Utd
- 1% Leicester 0:4 Man Utd
- 1% Leicester 0:5 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Leicester
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 48% 52%
- Shots
- 11 9
- Shots on Target
- 5 5
- Corners
- 2 7
- Fouls
- 14 8
Referee
Craig Pawson
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Luke Shaw
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replaced by Scott McTominay
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replaced by Amad Diallo
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replaced by Bruno Fernandes
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replaced by Edinson Cavani
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