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That was a bargain!£80m for H and some people are still not satisfied...
That was a bargain!£80m for H and some people are still not satisfied...
But sell to whom? It's not that simple. Who can afford billions in Covid times? In any case let them just get on with it.I dont know force them to sell or have government do something. But points deduction isn't the answer
UEFA don’t consider the impact on fans and players when applying fines or bans for transfer irregularities so while it’s definitely down to crooked owners they could still take action against the club.Why should the fans, players and staff who have no involvement in this be punished?
UEFA don’t consider the impact on fans and players when applying fines or bans for transfer irregularities so while it’s definitely down to crooked owners they could still take action against the club.
I say replace the feathers with dog shit.
UEFA don’t consider the impact on fans and players when applying fines or bans for transfer irregularities so while it’s definitely down to crooked owners they could still take action against the club.
We're in a lucky position in that all our big rivals are guilty too, so I'd be fine with whatever punishment got handed down.
All of us missing out on the CL next year would be irony or some shit.
Which will solidify the foundation of the SL.No CL or EL next season for them
They pay the bills for everyone. How do you go about punishing them when everyone else *needs* them to survive?It was an attempted coup. It cannot go un- punished.
No CL or EL next season for them
Well part of the issues within the PL is the money and the even split from TV.
Why should there be any punishment for something that never happened, ultimately? Considering that morally, Sky, UEFA and FIFA et al have no leg to stand on in this issue, perhaps it's best if they all go to the negotiating table.
That's not an issue. It's a positive.
It was also compromised on last year, in response to these threats from the big 6, so that any increase on the previous deal was distributed in favour of the bigger clubs.
Those who are calling for docked points, think about young players like Greenwood, Mctominay, Rashford (especially all the good he's done off the pitch). They'd be heartbroken if they were punished.
Think about Pogba and Shaws resurgence, Bruno showing he's the best about. 9 come backs from losing positions. Beating City. I could go on. Why would you want all that to be worth feck all because we have greedy owners.
The Premier League was established to give more power and money to the top division, at the expense of the lower league teams. TV money was skewed by Sky to the new Premier League and this was accentuated by things like no longer splitting gate receipts fifty-fifty. It remains a far more equitable division of the TV contracts than exists in Spain, for example, which is a positive. The changes to UEFA competitions, such as the creation of the Champions League and the constant changes to it, have been done entirely to benefit the richest and most powerful. The proposed Super League was designed to make this situation far more extreme.You argued the PL wasn't fair and had always done what the bigger clubs wanted.. they haven't. As above.
The Premier League was established to give more power and money to the top division, at the expense of the lower league teams. TV money was skewed by Sky to the new Premier League and this was accentuated by things like no longer splitting gate receipts fifty-fifty. It remains a far more equitable division of the TV contracts than exists in Spain, for example, which is a positive. The changes to UEFA competitions, such as the creation of the Champions League and the constant changes to it, have been done entirely to benefit the richest and most powerful. The proposed Super League was designed to make this situation far more extreme.
No CL or EL next season for them
Yes. Yet you have Everton fans like @SilentWitness demanding severe punishment to United when his own club was instrumental in the PL formation.
You keep making this about Everton. I don't care about Everton in this situation. If Everton were involved in this Super League I'd be saying exactly the same. As I have said, I'm a fan of football and then of Everton. I take far more pleasure now from watching a lower league game with my pals than watching Everton on tv. The ESL was an even further step away from helping lower division football and strengthening the clubs at the top. The PL and FA needs a major restructure and reform aside from this debacle, but the ESL was nothing but power hungry parasites wanting more money and there is no way that they should get away with that.
The two situations aren't the same. The Premier League was created after consultation and a vote, whereas this ESL was a total secret, even to players and managers. There's no point re-hashing the founding of the Premier League at this point. We need to make sure we all - together - use this moment for the good of the game. These corrupt and greedy foreign owners need to go. Football clubs can't be bought and sold like junk at a car boot sale. We need filth like the Glazers out of our game and replaced by democratic fan controlled entities.Yes. Yet you have Everton fans like @SilentWitness demanding severe punishment to United when his own club was instrumental in the PL formation.
So what about your clubs involvement in the PL formation?
Just admit it. You, and many others, will be demanding unrealistic punishments to the teams involved as it potentially benefits your own team.
The two situations aren't the same. The Premier League was created after consultation and a vote, whereas this ESL was a total secret, even to players and managers. There's no point re-hashing the founding of the Premier League at this point. We need to make sure we all - together - use this moment for the good of the game. These corrupt and greedy foreign owners need to go. Football clubs can't be bought and sold like junk at a car boot sale. We need filth like the Glazers out of our game and replaced by democratic fan controlled entities.
1. I wasn't even born when the PL formation happened so it doesn't impact me as much as this does. 2. Football is a business and a sport so you have to understand that there is an element of business behind the football on the pitch. 3. The ESL did not contain this balance between business and sport. It only concerned the financial benefits. The PL for as rotten as it is still contains the foundations of what makes sport brilliant which is the jeopardy of promotion/relegation/qualification and winning with purpose. The PL has been paramount in supporting and making grassroots football thrive in this country, pumping not only money into the footballing pyramid but passion. The ESL is so far removed from all of that.
I'm done responding to you now as you only read what you want to read and don't actually listen to people.
Very selfish way of thinking. There's obviously problem with the money involved in football and the same culprits will come back with a stronger plan that is more likeable by the fans.Those who are calling for docked points, think about young players like Greenwood, Mctominay, Rashford (especially all the good he's done off the pitch). They'd be heartbroken if they were punished.
Think about Pogba and Shaws resurgence, Bruno showing he's the best about. 9 come backs from losing positions. Beating City. I could go on. Why would you want all that to be worth feck all because we have greedy owners.
On another note, I've always had a lot of time for Everton as a great, traditional clubs who also hate Liverpool . The United - Liverpool mutual loathing is interesting, given the two cities supposedly share many values. I always enjoy visiting Liverpool and get along great with the people; it's only when the subject turns to football with the red half that things get tricky.1. I wasn't even born when the PL formation happened so it doesn't impact me as much as this does. 2. Football is a business and a sport so you have to understand that there is an element of business behind the football on the pitch. 3. The ESL did not contain this balance between business and sport. It only concerned the financial benefits. The PL for as rotten as it is still contains the foundations of what makes sport brilliant which is the jeopardy of promotion/relegation/qualification and winning with purpose. The PL has been paramount in supporting and making grassroots football thrive in this country, pumping not only money into the footballing pyramid but passion. The ESL is so far removed from all of that.
I'm done responding to you now as you only read what you want to read and don't actually listen to people.
You argued the PL wasn't fair and had always done what the bigger clubs wanted.. they haven't. As above.
Chelsea were instrumental in getting to the stage - first plastic club, inflated fees and wages, made money the most important thing. Then City followed, and made things 10 times worse. They should both be relegatedChelsea deserve credit. They were not antagonisers and made the move that made it cave.
Very selfish way of thinking. There's obviously problem with the money involved in football and the same culprits will come back with a stronger plan that is more likeable by the fans.
It’s a good moment to force the Glazers to sell. At the moment it’s their club. They run it and they can do whatever they want.It won’t happen ever, but if a severe punishment is introduced it might help get rid of them.
But regardless of looking at it from United and fans point of view such actions should not get unpunished. It was a sleazy way to make the rich richer and fill their pockets. Goes against anything this game is about.
United were the architects in this alongside Real, does that make you proud? It’s much bigger than the players and last time I checked they are still at helm and what would stop them from pulling another stint like that after couple of years?