Would you be happy to see the Glazers sell to Saudi Arabia-backed owners?

Who would you rather have as United’s owners?


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Luffy

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We'd certainly not be lacking in green and gold if that happened. But it's a no for me. I wouldn't want us to be owned by a country which may contain an oasis.
 

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Why are those the only two options? There's news coming out of that Spotify guy wanting to buy Arsenal with a handful of ex-players.

Surely the same can be found for United? One really rich guy (buying 51% of stocks) that surrounds himself with club icons who chip in for say 10% of stocks. For all I care, the Glazers can keep a minority share. As long as they don't pull the strings.
 

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the Saudis are an odious nation/family and I would not like anything to do with them.
 

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Fair question, but I think there is a difference between using something – like facebook etc. – and loving something – like being a fan of a football club. I cannot and will not love something that is owned by people affiliated with a murderous government.
Fair enough, that make sense. I'm not sure how I'll feel about it until it happens. I'll still want to support my team, but I can see my interest waning over time.

It's possible we all just need to get used to the fact that football is slowly going to be ruined by money and greed, if you don't consider it to already have happened.
 

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I'd stop following United even though they've been such a vital part of my everyday life for more than 20 years.
 

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Honestly, that'll be a huge moral dilemma. However, let's not kid ourselves that American billionaires are less despicable. They're just less brazen about it.

If they let us run and operate as a separate entity, I'd reluctantly say yes because Manchester United is what we're talking about here. That, however, is unlikely.

The other issue is that there's plenty of Arab money floating around in football already and I can see us dealing with these people we might reject now later down the line, even if the Glazers don't sell. Just look at the Super League funding sponsors. So we'll end up with the worst of both worlds.

Ideally, we never get to this point and we can kick the Glazer scum out ourselves.
 

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I would lose interest in United.

Glazers are corporate cnuts but they are not the dregs of society with blood on their hands.
 

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If the Glazers had 49% and we the fans had 51%. Would the Glazers invest in the club seeing they are the minority shareholders?
The Glazers dont actually actively invest from their pockets into the club. Their “investments” into the club is basically funded by the clubs cash and by borrowing from banks.
 

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So let’s get this straight.

We are seriously aggrieved that the glazers are sucking money out of the club they paid for when it could go on investment for United.

However if we agree with the Saudi takeover we are okay because we have a bottomless fund regardless of the crimes against humanity from this country.

I am fine with any owner as long as we don’t go the way of Barcelona.

I don’t like what the Saudis have done however if we can impact positive change somehow by collaboration then it’s worth a try.
 

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So let’s get this straight.

We are seriously aggrieved that the glazers are sucking money out of the club they paid for when it could go on investment for United.

However if we agree with the Saudi takeover we are okay because we have a bottomless fund regardless of the crimes against humanity from this country.

I am fine with any owner as long as we don’t go the way of Barcelona.

I don’t like what the Saudis have done however if we can impact positive change somehow by collaboration then it’s worth a try.
Do you mean that Utd positively impact the Saudi’s and somehow redeem them ? Only way I can see that happening is if they appoint Ole as PM and Pogba as Secretary of State
 

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Do you mean that Utd positively impact the Saudi’s and somehow redeem them ? Only way I can see that happening is if they appoint Ole as PM and Pogba as Secretary of State
I’m clutching in all honesty!
 

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Having Arab owners would make us a powerhouse again, top signings and since they won't be bothered on the financial part it would all be focused on the success on the pitch. Sign me up any day.

I don't think anyone can claim higher ground on moral, that human rights statement is silly to me. Let's say if the British or Spanish crown owned any club would they say the same? I may be touching sensible subjects here but not being born in the UK or Spain I don't have any admiration for the royalty and reviewing history they are pretty much as bad, if not worst, than the Saudis.
 

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No. They’re altogether evil.
 

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Needs a poll. I'd be genuinely interested in seeing the results, since there are loads of posters on here who don't voice their opinions in threads like this - but who will probably vote in a poll.
Yeah a visible poll though.
 

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i'd be interested in knowing how many people want the Glazers out but also don't want the Saudis in.
 

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Aside from the human rights stuff They would be great owners and they’d turn us into a winning machine. But yeah the human right and evilness puts me off. BUT I separate business from personal.
 

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Absolutely not and no amount of shiny new players would make up for it.
 

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Aside from the human rights stuff They would be great owners and they’d turn us into a winning machine
It is not just the money factor, I would think they would employ efficient people who would run the club for footballing reasons, rather than look at club as a big money minting machine.

Personally, I think "We would be their propaganda machine" is a bit blown out of proportion. They have enough businesses and excellent relations with all major nations, even with all their flaws/human right abuse.
 

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If the Glazers had 49% and we the fans had 51%. Would the Glazers invest in the club seeing they are the minority shareholders?
They have never invested in our club. They have spent some of the clubs money on the club, whilst extracting as much as they feel they can get away with.
 

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As long as the right question is asked.
"Is a Saudi backed ownership acceptable to you?" is a different question than "Does Saudi backed ownership make you happy?"
Who decides what the right question is though? Would we need a poll to decide?

''Could you accept the Saudi Government/Royal Family owning Manchester United?''

That for me would be a fair enough question to poll.
 

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As long as the right question is asked.
"Is a Saudi backed ownership acceptable to you?" is a different question than "Does Saudi backed ownership make you happy?"
I've never understood why polls are so restricted here. I think (timed) polls give us a great snapshot of what a fanbase is thinking about an issue at a certain point in time.

For example, if 80% of the Caf thinks Nagelsmann should replace Ole in 2021 and it turns out Naglesmann was actually a clueless fraud a year later, then I hope that teaches us to be more humble and not get swept up in to the narrative of the day.

You could also build a reputation system where good predictions about the future (based on polling history) are rewarded more than just repeating / buying into an existing narratives mindlessly.
 
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So let’s get this straight.

We are seriously aggrieved that the glazers are sucking money out of the club they paid for when it could go on investment for United.

However if we agree with the Saudi takeover we are okay because we have a bottomless fund regardless of the crimes against humanity from this country.

I am fine with any owner as long as we don’t go the way of Barcelona.

I don’t like what the Saudis have done however if we can impact positive change somehow by collaboration then it’s worth a try.
Half of the British and anyone American would vote for either Dems or Republicans who are war mongers. They simply have better PR. I am not condoning what he has done or are doing but it's being hypocritical to just blame them only.
But they are going to buy Newcastle and get a quality manager, pump in money and make them a very formidable force while we lag behind.
 

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Wouldn't make much difference to me honestly. All this high ground stuff is a bit over the top. Also it's a bit rude to judge everyone in SA as if they're some maniacal murderous people. American elite cause just as much suffering, English elite as well as the royals have done the same over the years. Same kettle of fish the lot of them.

Only time united will have respectable owners is when the fans own it, but that is never happening. For me, what those people do is between them and god, I just want to enjoy some football with the team I love.
 

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Wouldn't make much difference to me honestly. All this high ground stuff is a bit over the top. Also it's a bit rude to judge everyone in SA as if they're some maniacal murderous people. American elite cause just as much suffering, English elite as well as the royals have done the same over the years. Same kettle of fish the lot of them.

Only time united will have respectable owners is when the fans own it, but that is never happening. For me, what those people do is between them and god, I just want to enjoy some football with the team I love.
When people say Saudis in the context of buying United they are almost certainly referring to the Saudi government/Royal family. So maniacal and murderous would be fair enough.
 

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In the hands of the Glazers, you can force them to sell.

In the hands of the Saudis, its over. Its a Saudi regime until they decided to fold it, whether that's 10 or 100 years time. You arent ever getting another owner of Manchester United. So if this fecks up, we're stuck with that lot.
 
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