You know that’s cloud cuckoo land though?
So basically a fan that stumps up £3bn, has no say over how the club he’s spent £3bn on is run, and who makes zero return on that investment.
I agree with you - but it’s never going to happen.
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So basically a fan that stumps up £3bn, has no say over how the club he’s spent £3bn on is run, and who makes zero return on that investment.
I agree with you - but it’s never going to happen.
No but not all sponsors hand over money in one lump sum. If there were concerns from existing commercial partners we have a sackful of them so you’d expect something to come out of there if anyone were concerned . It’s only come from a rumoured potential sponsor.
Deals take a long time to put together. Would something that really hasn’t got much further than a hashtag that’s not really trended much or set the world on fire really be enough for multinational corporations to withdraw to request terminal of major sponsorship deals?
I get the ‘based in a Manchester’ thing but this campaign really hasn’t been that big or notable. I have a hard time believing that company not even targeted would on the basis of it trending number 29th in the world for ten minutes last Tuesday, would on that basis pull the plug on an alleged £200m deal
There’s something about this that doesn’t ring true. Especially when we are in partnership with dozens of companies from whom there hasn’t been the slightest peep of concern
Fans want the Abu Dhabi and Qatari Sheikhs essentially.
I would likely stop supporting United if that happened with the club used as a way to whitewash human rights violations.
Or more likely it’s going to be used to make a lack of signings as being the fans faults.
It’s £20m a season from deal that’s going to be filled with a higher amount once the deal is actually concluded, that’s if the negotiations were even real to begin with.
Wouldn’t worry about how it’ll impact our transfer budget but MUST needed more than ‘look at TeamViewers Yelp rating’ to evidence the worthwhileness of the campaign as that had worn thin after a week
therefor i am a bit sceptical that the protests will lead to a positive change. there are not many good owners out there.
i agree. The alternative could be worse. Realistically, the best case scenario may be the Glazers becoming more involved and invested, especially in terms of the stadium. Whether that’s likely (they say it is), and whether that’s ever going to be acceptable I just don’t know.
i think it’s absurd that anyone would want one of those regimes involved. Yes the Glazers are a better alternative to that.
Not true ---- only Edward supported trump while Avram and his wife have donated more than $2.5 million to Democratic causes and candidates since 2016, with a majority going to committees tied to Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden. Avram also donated $25,000 to the Florida Democratic Party in 2020, according to state records.
Joel has financially supported Hillary Clinton and three of them have given local democratic congressman, charlie crisp donations,
None but Edward have any record of republican support
We could find better, but the likelihood is new owners will take out more than the Glazers, it's almost guaranteed because of the cost of buying us. That's assuming it's businessmen and not some m urderous middle eastern regime.
Well said.
Just as we're getting back to near the top, you want to throw all that away.
Unbelievable!
Good luck getting them to understand this.
How else are they going to be able to buy United? Just how many people do you think have £3 or £4bn just lying around to buy us?
They, apparently, are true supporters according to a lot on here.
Personally, anyone prepared to damage United loses the right to call themselves a fan, imo.
Just hyperbole, not true.
In the best case this will create pressure on the Glazers to reform some key aspects of how they run the club and include the core fanbase, perhaps name a Van der Sar type as opposed to Arnold, and fork out on players + stadium repairs. If the sponsor pullout due to fan response did help create a scenario like this, it will have been worth it. And in a scenario like this, they will find a new training kit sponsor soon enough in any event. Not saying this all will happen of course, but it doesn't seem totally out of the realm of possibility either.
Very few are likely to want to buy us if that's the case. Who decides what is better or worse than the Glazers?
You may be able to live with it, I'm not prepared to see this club I've supported for over 50 years brought down by a bunch of loonies.
So in a scenario where Glazers are forced to sell they not only secure a price far in excess of clubs value but someone thinks it’s a good idea to buy club and dump loads of debt on it, seems plausible. Sure fans won’t have anything to say about that.
Not to mention the extortionate interest payments and fact banks probably might think before lending billions they can’t ever reclaim.
The most likely scenario is the club gets relisted, eventually Glazers will want to sell and viable buyers are almost non existent.
I disagree. If we manage to get rid of the Glazers then we will have had a really successful protest movement, and any new owner will only buy the club if they have a plan for negotiating with the fans.
Manchester United makes so much money every year that what we are asking for is not that owners don't make a substantial profit. Any buyer to come in after the Glazers have been ousted will have to deal with the reality that treating the club like the Glazers have done will lead to a fan reaction and revenues falling.
Clearly this is ambitious but it's not impossible - so it's worth aiming for that, rather than sitting on our hands and saying 'well, it's very unlikely'
How? Anyone in their right mind would be well advised to stay well clear unless they upset supporters and who's to say what will set them off in the future? Especially if they've got the taste for protesting.
Only to a very small set of people.
As was stated, what hapens if we don't find a new buyer, what then? Plenty of far more desirable investments have gone bust in just this situation.
They are pathetic and don't deserve to be called a fan. No one who wishes that does.
But "fans" are prepared to do so
Yeah, they can get fecked if they think setting the club back years is acceptable to the wider fanbase.
That's just your opinion, from thousands of miles away.
The Independent dont agree with Goal on this matter...
what are you talking about?But "fans" are prepared to do so
Seconded.
Good luck getting the extremists to even read, let alone un derstand.
What about wanting United fans to be beat up? Can you call yourself a fan then?
Fantastic news. Keep up the momentum - This could begin to spiral and the Glazers will know it.
Good post.
Nicely put.
Could always sell the naming rights.
Would extremists accept that if all money was put into repairing OT?
So if we don't get a new owner because they'd have more sense than to buy us, you've just damaged/destroyed the club for nothing.
Congratulations.
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Exactly like now only with far larger sums involved. How else are they going to finance a purchase?