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Yea it's scary. Iron dome [current munition supplies] aren't designed for this sort of sustained barrage. And if it's scaring the feck out of people, God only knows what the IDF reaction is gonna be. Many more will die needlessly. Feels way out of control.
Just rubbish
Forget the other Arab nations for a moment. We're discussing Palestinians here who are being evicted. If they accept Israel as a state, will the evictions stop?
Too fecking late. Like Trump when they had already breached the Capitol. Send in the army, gain control of the streets. Prosecute every lyncher and complicit police officer. Only way.
That's very optimistic. I don't think Palestine will even exist in 20 or 30 years time.
Just heard something about Hamas using their longest-ranged rockets ever in this barrage, reaching points inside of Israel for the first time from Gaza.
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Palestine will exist forever
The Palestinians are mostly Sunni Muslims, and from Israel's perspective they are basically a side issue compared to Iran. So, no it wouldn't stop unless all Arab nations complied.
Saw a quote online which stated "The colonial monopoly on violence is backed by the liberal demand for nonviolent resistance". That's what the last few days feel like for me
Israel can feck off, nothing but trouble those cnuts
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Quite a bit more nuanced than that one epic geopolitical fail of hers.
So even if Palestinians accept Israel but other countries don't, you think the evictions won't stop. Yet you still believe the Palestinians are the aggressors today and Israel is just 'retaliating'?
Let's say Palestinians' first response is to accept Israel. Then what? What else would you like them to do in order for evictions to stop?
They've been using the Iranian F5's for some hours. Doubt they have too many though. Hezbollah are going to get in on the act and start firing from the North too. They are already ranging up dummies. A country under siege, with an angry population within at simmering point whipped up by right wing politicians against a minority whilst that minority also riots against their grievances. Right wing politicians making policy. It cannot end well.
The more under siege they feel; the more aggressive they will be. Biden and Putin both support them to the point they'll allow pretty much anything... which is fecking scary with Netanyhu talking about 'punishing them hard for a long time to come.'
So, basically, you're asking for the impossible. And until that time Palestinians just have to sit on their hands as they're evicted from their homes and blown up.
That's actually sounds fine to you?!
The PLO affirmed Israels right to exist back in 1993, before Hamas truly rose to power. It got them nowhere. The land theft and displacement just continued regardless.
I couldn't have worded it better myself. The audacity of well-off Western citizens to throw their morality around is an interesting psychological concept.
I know it is just a movie but this was an important theme throughout the Gandhi movie. So much emphasis on Indians 'retaliating' with violence.
What's with the vast amount of Indian blokes on Twitter stating their pride and "standing with Israel"? Do Indians really hate Muslims that much? Do they not see the parallels between the British occupation of India?
Didn't Israel even support Hamas to counter the PLO?
He is willing to blame pretty much everyone and every country in the world apart from Israel for the inhuman acts committed by Israeli soldiers on Palestine civilians. People have given him ample number of chances being patient to come to the right realization but that pretty much seems a lost cause. It's pretty clear the stance here is that all the problems are started by the Palestinians and Israel have never done anything wrong and have always just acted in self defense. It's a lost cause.
Yep, I posted a couple of articles earlier where high ranking Israeli personnel talk about it.
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It wouldn't happen, would it?
Muslim countries hate the existence of Israel. Ask them yourself.
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Right wing islamophibic nutjobs supporting these acts is hardly the most surprising thing right now. People in here are morally bankrupt.
Ask yourself why it's impossible, then think about it.
I've noticed this myself in the last few years. Right wing, nationalist nutjobs from different countries seem to support each other
Mate I think you've had your say and shown how completely blind you are towards the acts committed by Israel over the years. You'd blame the Arabs if there was an earthquake over there.
You don't know the history between Indian Hindu and Catholic relations with Muslims?
So let me get this straight. You have absolutely no problem with removing people from their homes? It is their own fault essentially? And you don't consider that to be Israeli aggression?
Thank you so much. x
Yeah it's impossible, not to mention an incredibly nonsensical stance to have, because Palestine's right to peace with Israel shouldn't be decided on anything other than those two nation's diplomatic agreements. Nobody can be this obtuse.
Not true. If Muslims are the people of God, and Islam is the true faith, then they're totally justified in their view of Jewish occupation of Israel. Islam will eventually triumph over Israel, it's just a matter of time.
I wouldn't say so. Only these Hindu right wing extremists.
A lot of Palestinians got scholarships and studied in India. PLO had a mission in India from the 80s. That said after modi came to power the hate against the Muslims are on the rise.
There were lots of high profile Palestinians who are not Muslims. Hanan Ashrawi is a Christian.
Thanks for the reply, Amir.
Can anyone wanting to better their economic life falsely claim to be Jewish and move to Israel, is there any checks?
1) they believe the existance of the State of Israel is fulfillment of prophesy
2) they believe that the Jews are God’s chosen people
Because of this, American conservative evangelicals see any strike against the state of Israel as a strike against biblical prophecy and God’s will. This leads to conservative politicians pandering to this belief to secure votes from the American evangelical voters through supporting Israel’s military and domestic/foreign policy.
Lapid’s statement is the best from an Israeli politician I’ve seen tonight, calling out the far-right gangs by name:
I'm of Pakistani descent, so I'm well aware of the history and relationship between Hindus and Muslims. I was just commenting on a trend I'd noticed in the last few years - I actually remember in the last GE here in the UK there was right wing Hindu propaganda aimed at getting British Indians voting for the Tories and smearing Labour.
Thanks, buddy.
Thank you. Do they believe that then the Jews would become Christians in the end? Or what would happen to the Jews and Israel according to them?