I think this is new and the result of a swing to the hard right in Israeli politics.
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Yep. Waste of time.
why do they support Israel? don't they want Jesus to conquer everything?
Isn't Israel the aggressor here?
Just like everywhere else in the world. What the feck is happening to us?!
I get all that. But, targeting governmental buildings seems a certain statement of intent or a shift in strategy. I don’t think that anyone is referring to the strike on the finance building as an accident.
This guy is a troll and will only derail.
I can sort of see why it happened in the West due to income equality rising and cost of living rising while wages aren't catching up. Globalization hasn't helped everyone.
I don't know about Israeli right wing politics though or why Brazil elected Bolsonaro.
Just read the whole discussion before you comment. Where did I say the entire Christian world or the majority of the Christians? You just barge into a discussion without understanding or reading what was said.
It’s extremely unusual within Israel ‘proper’, despite regular tensions. However it has occurred in the context of the two intifadas. It is a sign that the country is falling apart IMO, although I hope I’m being dramatic. Right now though there are just too many potential fronts of confrontation and no leadership.
I’m just waiting for Hezbollah to lob a few rockets over.
Has this been good for Netanyahu personally? Distractions from his personal trials, scandals, whatever?
Saudis and UAE together with all their might couldn't subdue a small militia group in Yemen. They'll get literally kicked to the kerbs by Israel.
Decades ago, despots like Saddam or Gaddafi may have fared slightly better, I guess.
Like the brexit thread I'm quite happy to go if required, but I'm surprised I'm considered a troll for pointing out that over a thousand rockets have been fired at Israel, and that this seems to be disregarded here as irrelevant because the missiles are pretty useless, in spite of the intent. Israel obviously have to deal with this threat, but any action is condemned, yes?
My point was literally that it’s not about religion sorry I should have worded that better
You don't respond to any points made against you but repeat the same old like the inadequate thing you are.
Just curious, what would you like the Palestinians to do? How should they protect themselves in your opinion?
Bro, delete the name calling.
Too much progress in so many areas. Not just socially, where some kinds of progress cause discomfort as we've seen last year but also in technology, which has really given people who hold these views a chance to congregate and reinforce their shared values. This gives them confidence to be more open with it and the shocking scenes we've witnessed across the world the last 15 months or so are the result.
@vidic blood & sand is curious as to why he picked a fight with all those bullies in the first place.
Why the direct personal insults?
It is correct in the aspect what we were discussing with Carolina Red. He corrected me. You have no idea what we were discussing from what you are commenting.
I had already edited it. But to be clear I don't retract anything I say unless I make it clear. I'm not name calling I express what I feel take it or leave it.
All of them are Israeli citizens. Including the Arab driver. They could have singled him out by looks.Thanks. Still none the wiser about why he was singled out. If what @sun_tzu found out about yellow plates is right there’s at least one other Palestinian car there which went completely unmolested.
I guess that’s a moot point. There really isn’t any justification for what happened. Horribly reminiscent of similar scenes at a funeral in Northern Ireland in the late 80s, with a worse outcome
EDIT: Got that wrong. Yellow plates = Israeli. Which explains why the other car wasn’t touched. I guess they found another way to single him out as Palestinian/Muslim.
This is the poor guy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/COyMMwHnefj/?igshid=9olf1hhzfshc
Taking the question in good faith It would have to match or exceed what the IDF are doing to Palestinians and they would have to be a serious threat, because right now, the status quo is such that for the last half a century the injustices are almost universally one sided. The conflict as a whole is completely fecked, and nobody comes off well, the british included. But this isn't a situation where you can pull the "both sides" card in my opinion, political violence and war are a shit reality of the world until we get to some post scarcity utopia, every change in our history has come about as a result of it, and not all forms are equivalent. Hamas firing rockets and killing the occasional Israeli civilian is terrible, and you can argue quite well, that its not effective and counter intuitive, but the burden of that retaliation doesn't solely rest on Palestinians in gaza, what are they supposed to do they've tried everything else for decades? It's also clearly not a credible threat, its a cry for attention, Missiles that actually get through are incredibly rare and they get pinged out of the sky almost immediately.
Some people are what they are.
Plus they do not like the Palestinians and the Jordanians.
The name calling is puerile. It’s an obviously emotional topic for many in here, but name calling just devalues the thread & helps descend it into more of a morass.
Protect themselves from what exactly?
If you throw a brick over your neighbor's fence, the chances are you'll get a knock at the door, or maybe more than that.
What if Hamas accepted Israel as a legitimate sate, and desired to be peaceful neighbors? Now there's a radical idea.
I edited it, within seconds, which shows a regard for the decorum here.
But ok, I'ma leave.
Apologies to the forum.
I have met very few true "Israelis" whatever that is but plenty of Jews who live in NYC and have a second home in Israel. The one's I meet are against all the treatment of Palestinians. Small sample size but in my social circle would be tough to find a jewish person who actively support Israel in its treatment of Palestine.
That’s prime tin foil.
That’s also a well worn political tactic.
There’s probably a bit of both in reality.
So the missiles are pretty useless now?
Speaking from an objective viewer stance, it’s been interesting today on my day off to read this thread & see the different sides. Would hate to see someone who is contributing their experience get kicked off for name calling.
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Who actually funds the UN btw? Who pays for their salaries? Has there been a more useless organization?
Yeah, I worded that badly. Should have said Arab. That’s horrendous. The whole thing is so sad. Thoughts are with you and everyone there. Stay safe.
What if you went round and bulldozed your neighbours house to the ground what would you get?
Protect themselves from being evicted?