The Positive Thread (warning - no reactionary posts here)

[KiD MoYeS]

We learned absolutely nothing new last night. It is obvious what players need to be signed to push on from here and a big transfer window is needed. Ole isn't going to be sacked so people need to stop moaning and support him.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Positive: clear signs of progression, 2nd in the league, city are so far ahead of others at the moment so positive that we are amongst the front runners to take them on, got to a European final only to lose on penalties. Positive is that we can see the issues with the squad to fix

negatives: fickle fans out in force

Spot on.

 

[JB7]

Address your concern in 3 para.

If you think Glazer is going to sell the Club at 500m because we are a loser club, go somewhere else, this is not the right forum.

If you think the Club will spend Big, just remind you that we have always been spending big sum, like Di Maria, Sanchez, Pogba, and the loads of junk that LVG bought. So it is not about quantity, it is about quality. If Bailly or Lindelof is like Diaz, Fred like Guodogan, AWB like Chilwell and I am not too greedy, do you think we will have this endless argument on needing new players? And I don't want to compare Gnarby, Davies as such bargain. If only 3/4 of our new recruits are worthy to start, we won't be having this argument at all.

If you think Ole - MU is going to win any knock-out competition with some big names coming in, think again. Rashford was extremely poor last night, Ole dare not sub him out. Even Bruno & Pogba was average, and wait until ??? to replace them. So you think Ole is going to sub out a 3-Haaland, or a 4-Sancho? No, he will push on until 88min, hopefully something will happen. May be we can still win the league if players show up 30 / 38 games, but in cup final, either they show up, or sub out. period. Ole is too afraid to touch his big players.

I thought this was a serious post until you said you’d want AWB to be like Chilwell.

 

[gorky_utd]

Puts more pressure on the owner to deliver this summer. Puts more pressure on the team to perform better next season. Atleast they now know the pressure of a final which is a start I guess.

 

[abailey123]

I don’t think we’re far off as people think. Oles building a squad and a resilient squad. We need to improve definitely and I’d say our priorities have to be a centre midfielder, right winger, centre half and back up right back, we’ve got to be in the chase for Kane also. We could make a statement of intent this summer and leave Ole with no excuses next season. Develop a system which can play against the low block with 2 8’s rather than 2 6’s.
Positives from this season have to be our resilience on the road. We need to turn Old Trafford into that place where teams hate to come.
The claws are going to out for Ole this next week or two but if people can’t see clear progress from the dark days of Mourinho’s last season then they’re blind.
The positive thing from Rashfords interview last night was that the players believe in him, they’re all on board with what he’s trying to achieve.

 

[Giggsyking]

The only positive is that more people begin to say understand what we have been saying for 2 years about the current manager. Otherwise, there are no positives in losing 5 semifinals and a european final against a mediocre team.

 

[matsdf]

Pot 1: Villareal, Atletico, Man City, Bayern, Inter, Lille, Sporting CP, Zenit (if City wins CL)
Pot 2: Real, Barca, Juventus, PSG, Liverpool, Sevilla, Man Utd, Chelsea (again if City wins)

A loss might well have been positive yesterday. Pot 2 seems just as hard (or harder), than pot 1. Good chances of getting a decent group.

 

[KikiDaKats]

Positives are always there to see in this team each games. Though we see it get overshadowed by minor failings that costs us dearly.
Edison Cavani has put my opinion of him to shame. Show what a true professional means, does his talking on the pitch for us and leads by example.
McT is more of a player than the inhibited guy we see running around all season with his shorts dropped down trying to be an 80s rapper. His true style is going to make for enjoyable viewing. No wonder he does better for Scotland, knowing he is being counted on and can make things happen.
We know Bailly is not for us.
Maguire is become a GOAT in his absence.
Tanzuebe and James shown their ability to operate under pressure considering all the abuse or doubts they deal with. The calmness to their PKs was plausible.
Acceptance of Pogba can’t be used in a deeper role.
For the rest I’d head to the negativity thread, can someone create one so I can vent.

 

[Wilt]

I’m positive Ole is not the ’one’.

Yes he’s a nice guy, loves the club and all that... but that isn’t going to win trophies.

 

[Adisa]

Positive: Debate about the manager will end next season one way or another cause I am tired of this back and forth.

 

[PoTMS]

These setbacks are good for character building. Hopefully these players remember how close they were this season and use this to fuel them next season.

 

[The Hilton]

I think we've made a lot of progress under Ole - he's putting us back together piece by piece.

We're definitely missing some quality depth, and that needs to be addressed this summer if we're to take the next and start winning stuff.

Last night was gutting, we were undone by a combination of nerves, fatigue, and a lack of quality options, but with the right approach we can bounce back stronger.

 

[padzilla]

A positive move this summer would be to bring in a manager who doesn’t think what we are currently serving up is something to be proud of.

 

[gajender]

Villareal, like Arsenal said was playing cnuts tactics to get the win. I think they have better motivation to qualify for CL.

They parked the bus all game after scoring, that's a plus...but yeah. Rashford needs to step up and stay true to his words though.

Event commentators felt it was a performance we dominated, but failed to capitalize on it.

That's BS we hardly created anything it was not as if Villarreal were carved open time and time again and we missed clear cut opportunities to score , they came with a game plan of defending deep and they succeeded without much trouble pretty much kept us at arms length through out the game .
We got what we deserved for such a insipid display despite clear disparity between the talent available to both teams.

Apologies for missing the intent of the OP .

Positives clear pressure on Owners to step up in Summer and Management to deliver something tangible with genuine title challenge next season.

 

[Withnail]

If I stand in for DDG, I would have saved 2 goals, just standing still.

It's a game of chicken though isn't it. You can't just stand still for them all.

 

[united_99]

Positives:
- People can laugh about us only until Saturday. After that they will laugh longer about the losing CL finalist!

- We might strengthen our first team this summer (but not believing it until I see it).
However this is crucial. Regardless of the manager it is important we keep improving our team. And Ole at least targets the right age profile. We need to fill the gaps before we potentially get a manager who prefers 30 year old expensive players.

And only if the owners agree to invest big - especially in the covid environment - they will demand a greater output/trophies. If not then they can’t and won’t demand more than top 4 unfortunately.

- At least we have Greenwood and signed Amad!

 

[Livewire1974]

We had a bad night, then lost on penalities, some people need to get over it. It happens in football. Our squad does lack depth, by not making subs Ole was sending a message to the Glazers that we need more players, and we do.

 

[Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell]

We spent a lot of money last summer, DVB and amed, theres £80mil - both bench players, we need to buy someone who improves on what we have and who is actually picked to play.

We didn't spend £80m.

Even if we did, that's chump change at the top of this sport these days.

 

[UnitedSofa]

Conte is available

I’m positive Ole is not the ’one’.

Yes he’s a nice guy, loves the club and all that... but that isn’t going to win trophies.

Oh give over with this BS

 

[Wilt]

Oh give over with this BS

What’s BS about it?

 

[laughtersassassin]

Positive: clear signs of progression, 2nd in the league, city are so far ahead of others at the moment so positive that we are amongst the front runners to take them on, got to a European final only to lose on penalties. Positive is that we can see the issues with the squad to fix

negatives: fickle fans out in force

A bit disenegious to have our only negative as fickle fans. There are positives but there are a lot of negatives too.

That can't be denied. Ignoring them doesn't help anyone.

 

[golden_blunder]

A bit disenegious to have our only negative as fickle fans. There are positives but there are a lot of negatives too.

That can't be denied. Ignoring them doesn't help anyone.

I could list a bunch of negatives but this is a positive thread. Look around the forum, it’s a pit of negativity today. You’d swear the world was ending, not that one team beat another in a football match: wow

 

[Solius]

One place that people just want to post positive things and you still get people coming in here moaning. Do it in literally every other thread if you must.

 

[UnitedSofa]

What’s BS about it?

You know why. Stop being a d*ck.

 

[Mickeza]

We’re 3 signings away from being a top team with a sustainable future. This will dawn on people when we win our first 10 league games next year.

 

[bsCallout]

As a United fan I've enjoyed football this season. I like the players we have, they seem to care about the club and genuinely invested in helping us get back to the top. We've had some really exciting performances to go with it.

We've had a really tough season with no pre-season, A LOT of games and realistically a squad not able to cope with it.

We've had players playing through injury, because they care and just want to be available.

We have players and a manager that have come out and said it's not a good season because they haven't won anything, and a manager that seems just as aware as us fans of the need for 3 new players for the starting lineup.

We've slipped up in key moments since Ole has been here but I believe that with the right additions to the team those moment go in our favour.

There are a couple of players in this squad that I don't think have the mentality required here and I have no doubt Ole will see them off.

The only thing I'm gutted about is that we didn't have Lingard last night, he would have been so useful.

An exciting window coming up and a very challenging campaign next year where I expect Ole to prove the doubters wrong.

Football for me isn't just about winning, it's all to easy to make it black and white and say it's only good if we win. For me it's about do the players(& staff) in the shirt care for the club like I do, and for the first time since Fergie I'm convinced they do.

 

[Wilt]

You know why. Stop being a d*ck.

Get yer head out of the sand.

People are fuming over last nights disaster and who can blame them. Looking for positives so soon after what we’ve just witnessed is just daft.

if you need a positive ...despite losing we took some good penalties

 

[RazorOz]

The problem with believing we'll have a strong summer is it has been said for years now, and it rarely materialises. Normally the summer transfer window descends into farce. If we were serious then we'd be going getting business done asap, but I imagine it's near guaranteed that as ever it drags on all summer with at first the Euros being the excuse then the players being on holiday. There's no real evidence that those above really care about taking the club forward another step, they just seem interested in doing the bare minimum to maintain their investment. Especially concerning would be the years of "big" investment have all been after years of total failure, they are probably quite happy with this year, and in the past that means they don't invest.

 

[bsCallout]

Get yer head out of the sand.

People are fuming over last nights disaster and who can blame them. Looking for positives so soon after what we’ve just witnessed is just daft.

if you need a positive ...despite losing we took some good penalties

There are a mutlitude of threads you can post in, so why would you bother even coming into this one? Definition of a WUM.

 

[bsCallout]

The problem with believing we'll have a strong summer is it has been said for years now, and it rarely materialises. Normally the summer transfer window descends into farce. If we were serious then we'd be going getting business done asap, but I imagine it's near guaranteed that as ever it drags on all summer with at first the Euros being the excuse then the players being on holiday. There's no real evidence that those above really care about taking the club forward another step, they just seem interested in doing the bare minimum to maintain their investment. Especially concerning would be the years of "big" investment have all been after years of total failure, they are probably quite happy with this year, and in the past that means they don't invest.

You missed the point of the thread.

 

[OleBoiii]

I entered this thread expecting positivity. I want my money back!

 

[Wilt]

There are a mutlitude of threads you can post in, so why would you bother even coming into this one? Definition of a WUM.

It could be viewed posting this thread so soon is also a WUM

 

[bsCallout]

It could be viewed posting this thread so soon is also a WUM

Thanks for confirming it.

 

[Bobcat]

Positives:
- Greenwood will be even better next year and another year under Cavanis wing will be invaluable
- The players who started yesterday have played A LOT of football and are obviously exhausted. They are not half as bad as they looked yesterday
- Both the squad and the "average starting XI" is the youngest in the league, meanwhile both City and Liverpool have a pretty aging group of players and are due a transition very soon. For example Salah, Mane and Van Dijk are getting dangerously close to 30 and regarding the latter its no guarantee hes going to be as good as he was considering the nature of his injury. Chelsea spent an absolute fortune last summer and i cant imagine they can spend big this summer without breaking the rules
- Not going to claim that losing a final is better than winning it, but its still an important experience and if you manage to channel all those emotions into something productive you can come back stronger
- Sancho and/or Grealish is going to completely change us.

 

[Fanatic 00237]

I saw a post-match quote from Ole, something along the lines of "We've got to taste this feeling, not savour it, but make sure we don't get it again". Ole and the players are certainly immensely more hurt by the defeat than we can imagine.

Considering we all recognised (even if we had won it) that this isn't exactly the level of trophy United aspires to win, the true purpose of winning wasn't so much for the trophy in itself but rather for maturing purposes, to get these set of manager, coaches and players to learn how to win and build that winning mentality. I think losing here can still be an important part of their growth and maturing process and a springboard to work harder and do better next season.

Sure, I was totally gutted last night after the defeat, as I expected nothing but a win, but after a night to sleep off the disappointment, I still believe the future is bright for this team. If only we can get the necessary reinforcements this summer (all of our rivals won't sleep over the summer so we better match or better their efforts). I remain confident that we can build on the progress achieved this season despite the disappointing end, no need to burn down the whole building. With the fans back next season and hopefully an actual pre-season and quality new recruits, there is a lot to look forward to next season.

(Thanks for this thread, I can't dare to open any of the others, I can only imagine the cesspit)

 

[VP89]

Pot 1: Villareal, Atletico, Man City, Bayern, Inter, Lille, Sporting CP, Zenit (if City wins CL)
Pot 2: Real, Barca, Juventus, PSG, Liverpool, Sevilla, Man Utd, Chelsea (again if City wins)

A loss might well have been positive yesterday. Pot 2 seems just as hard (or harder), than pot 1. Good chances of getting a decent group.

Ole playing the 4d chess, I like it

 

[Fully Fledged]

Nah. The requirement was top 4 and a trophy. Not a good season to just finish 2nd when we failed to win a trophy.

Who’s requirement? I can tell you one thing it wasn’t the board’s. They are happy with CL money.

 

[macheda14]

Ole saying we need three players for the FIRST TEAM is what I want to hear. Most of the time you should strengthen a squad by bringing in first XI quality players that then relegate those who were starting the season before down onto the subs bench.

We have a host of great young players coming through, we will hopefully get Sancho, a CB and a CDM and we'll definitely be closer to city in terms of our squad. I'm calling it now we'll go very far into the CL next season.


(I'm being unrealistically optimistic, because honestly I am so so so gutted about last night, literally kept on waking up from bad dreams about it)

 

[bosnian_red]

Who’s requirement? I can tell you one thing it wasn’t the board’s. They are happy with CL money.

The requirement in my opinion based on our squad and development to represent a positive season and progress. Next season as of now is again top 4 and a trophy, unless we strengthen sufficiently, in which case the bare minimum also goes up to a serious title challenge.

 

[lsd]

It's a game of chicken though isn't it. You can't just stand still for them all.

Exactly who will take a penalty down the middle after watching the keeper stand still every time?