Baneofthegame
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In terms of trophies, yes.
The point for all fans theirs and ours is the dream they'll get promoted and into the top division and maybe win the league eventually and other competitions. The whole attraction of football is the dream you can one day get to the top of the pyramid.[
good job you had the pleasure of supporting United through the 90’s and 00’s then and not someone like Newcastle or Spurs or Luton or shef Wednesday. What would be the point in that
We've had our fair share of to put it mildly 'boring' games under LVG and Ole as well tbh.I watch football to be entertained, i don't get a bonus if the team win a trophy at the end of the season.
You should just switch to City then. Much more likely to win and the football isn't boring. Alternatively try Bayern, they're always winning and have excellent football.
Manchester United under LvG/Mourinho were the shittest side i've ever had the misfortune to watch. It could be on par with the England national team under Capello.
The game against Yoevil town was the worst - just so so boring.
Who is then in your eyes?Still? He wasn’t to begin with.
Yes exactly, the dream, the journey, the team, the hope, the fun, the support. That’s what football is.The point for all fans theirs and ours is the dream they'll get promoted and into the top division and maybe win the league eventually and other competitions. The whole attraction of football is the dream you can one day get to the top of the pyramid.
But nowhere is it saying Europa is the height of ambition. It's fact Mourinho has been a better manager as he has won trophies and Ole hasn't. Both have finished second in the league too.If the Europa league is the height of your ambition, yeah sure.
So have City under Pep, and Lpool under Klopp. But it's definitely better than it's been since SAF imo. Probably even better than some SAF teams, there used to be some awful games(not in general obviously).We've had our fair share of to put it mildly 'boring' games under LVG and Ole as well tbh.
When you look at the trophy wins, is the opposition irrelevant in your opinion?But nowhere is it saying Europa is the height of ambition. It's fact Mourinho has been a better manager as he has won trophies and Ole hasn't. Both have finished second in the league too.
Mourinho has been the best since Fergie and it's not even a debate if looking at what the achieved in terms of results. Ole is in a better position than Mourinho was but I honestly cannot see Ole matching what Mourinho did with the squad he had
You’re kidding right?So you couldn't come up with anything?
Why did you ignore the rest of my post?You’re kidding right?
What is made of metal, generally gets presented to a single team at the end of a tournament and then goes into a cabinet?
I'm not sure I'd place much store what's said on this place, I remember most saying we wouldn't finish in the top 4 after Sancho wasn't signed. Other golden threads include DDG being better than Schmeichel and VDS and Welbeck going to become a goal king at Arsenal.The fact that it's a debate should tell you everything about the progress we've apparently made.
@Leroy The Red ATTACK!I'm not sure I'd place much store what's said on this place, I remember most saying we wouldn't finish in the top 4 after Sancho wasn't signed. Other golden threads include DDG being better than Schmeichel and VDS and Welbeck going to become a goal king at Arsenal.
So if a manager win a trophy but sold most youngsters, bought over the hill quality players just to get that one shitty trophy that year that would mean he’s the best. Forget everything else and the following year, the only thing that matters is that bit of metal that one year. I’m not shocked people think like this after decades of United winning but it’s still shit never the less.You’re kidding right?
What is made of metal, generally gets presented to a single team at the end of a tournament and then goes into a cabinet?
So silly, right?So if a manager win a trophy but sold most youngsters, bought over the hill quality players just to get that one shitty trophy that year that would mean he’s the best. Forget everything else and the following year, the only thing that matters is that bit of metal that one year. I’m not shocked people think like this after decades of United winning but it’s still shit never the less.
Indeed, laying the foundations. Jose, burnt us too the ground.He won a trophy but probably left us in worse shape than anyone
even if Ole was replaced this summer you could say he did a very good job rebuilding the squad, the morale, the kids, the structure and next in the job will have a considerably easier job than Ole inherited
Haha, that’s why it was described as a ‘myth’. I mean the evidence is literally there, all anyone needs to do is open the thread and take the tally.@Leroy The Red ATTACK!
We made a mistake hiring a short term manager. We should have seen the pattern. Then Ole had a mess to clean upIndeed, laying the foundations. Jose, burnt us too the ground.
That poster isn’t to be taken seriously. Pretty sure it’s a spoof account.This is funny because Fellaini did more to cover Jose's shortcomings than any other player
The irony of your name here So, to follow this logic, when Ole loses matches, it's more impressive than when LVG or Mourinho won, right? This all is starting to resemble RAWKs alternative table.Look at the Europa run when we won it we didnt even top a dreadful group.
Oles Europa run was more impressive this year than Mourinhos despite not winning.
Oles FA Cup run this year was more impressive than LVGs despite not winning.
In the cups an easy draw goes a long way. Just look at Chelsea's CL group and first KO tie this year.
Your judging them on silverware and short term success. The height of which was the Europa League, because Jose clearly wasn't taking the club any further.But nowhere is it saying Europa is the height of ambition. It's fact Mourinho has been a better manager as he has won trophies and Ole hasn't. Both have finished second in the league too.
Mourinho has been the best since Fergie and it's not even a debate if looking at what the achieved in terms of results. Ole is in a better position than Mourinho was but I honestly cannot see Ole matching what Mourinho did with the squad he had
No it's that the games Ole won are better than the games Mourinho won. Due to the draw on ended up with a trophy. When did I mention who they lost against?The irony of your name here So, to follow this logic, when Ole loses matches, it's more impressive than when LVG or Mourinho won, right? This all is starting to resemble RAWKs alternative table.
Ole lost to a second rate Turkish team in the CL when we were in pole position. He then failed to sub Fred off who was on a yellow and had the whole of PSG trying to get him off. And then he setup cowardly against Leipzig and did not react until it was far too late. Hence why were in the Europa League. Our path towards the final was against so so teams, nothing special. At all. All winnable.No it's that the games Ole won are better than the games Mourinho won. Due to the draw on ended up with a trophy. When did I mention who they lost against?
There is context to a cup run/win. It's not black and white.
It wouldn't mental to assume Ole wouldn't win the Europa facing the teams that Mourinho did.
Ole beat PSG in a last 16 tie. Mourinho lost to Sevilla in a last 16 tie.
This. He won stuff, but if you look at the bigger picture and the shape he left the club in, his reign was incredibly damagingIn terms of tropies yes.
In terms of anything else, no.
Feel the squad is in better shape than at any time since the season moyes took over.
LVG for me.The cannon fodder left from his reign far exceeds that from Mourinhos. I think that’s reflected in the fact there’s only two players from his reign who are still anywhere near the first team.He won a trophy but probably left us in worse shape than anyone
even if Ole was replaced this summer you could say he did a very good job rebuilding the squad, the morale, the kids, the structure and next in the job will have a considerably easier job than Ole inherited