Historical moments of cheating | With a super-sized portion of salt

Zlatan 7

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In a semi final, on a Wednesday night, with a baby in bed.
Erm, historic? A win v Denmark in a semi?

Get a grip lad. My grandkids would think I was a right weapon if I told em one night in 30 years time, “hey kids, ooooh one day back in 2021, England beat Denmark and made a final, and I just went around the Stockholm streets cheering me head off and getting smashed”. Didn’t I have a top life.

Yeah, my life stories don’t hang on England’s footy team thank feck.
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Trying to think of what is Chelsea most infamous bit of pitch "cheating"?

Spunking a load of money doesn't count. I mean during a match, a single incident.
Don't know about "cheating", but there's a match from 10 years ago I'm still mad about.
2009-10 season, away at Chelsea: blatant last man foul in the box by Terry on Rooney, nothing given. Then some dodgy decisions (offside? penalty not given? don't remember) against Valencia too.
Chelsea won 1-0 from a late free kick (some obstruction as it went in too I think), scored by Terry.
League decided by a point. (Same season as Drogba's very offside goal, but I think Macehda handled for his goal that game too).

Luiz's debut game (2-1 loss at the Bridge) was worse refereeing, he should have got a red and 2 yellows for various assaults and dives, but don't care since the league was won.

On the other hand, referee also let this slide in that game:

e - you can enjoy more salt i found the match day thread
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/chelsea-vs-manchester-united.274182/page-32

e again- mixed up the penalty (was Valencia) with the offside (was Rooney)
 

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No, they were shite, created feck all and played for pens from the 30 minute mark. Their Keeper made some superb saves and we were very wasteful.
Basically it’s funny as hell to see all the anti-England mob get so excited that we might not win a game that we clearly were the better team in….only for it to be dashed by a soft pen at the end. Soft pens happen all the time….the wailing and crying is ridiculous. Denmark were cloggers and deserved bugger all
No, they defended well, and if they deserved feck all then neither do you. Having more possession does not make you more deserved winners if you can't put the ball in the goal. You had some half decent chances, but not like you were carving them open time and again.

The only funny thing is seeing the deluded England mob trying to justify that they won by cheating and thinking the world is aginst you. It was not a soft pen, but a dive. The strawmanning is ridiculous. England are a dull and boring team who deserved feck all in that game as well.
 

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I was clearly taking the piss. go you mr detective
Sorry...how is 'They’re my second team. And have just cheated their way to a final so I thought they were hot topic tonight' clearly taking the piss
 

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So apparently it's not ok for England to cheat but it's totally fine for Spain, Germany, Portugal, Italy and France to make an art out of that.
 

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They were as good as you in the first half, but in the second they were gassed. Hell they were playing the end of second half of ET with ten men as they made all their subs and could not make anymore, and you still needed a dive to cheat your way through.

What does that say about you, one of the most boring teams who play shit most of the time with the talent that you have. There was no luck, they defended doggedly while you were negative and shit yourself for most of the game.
So apparently it's not ok for England to cheat but it's totally fine for Spain, Germany, Portugal, Italy and France to make an art out of that.
Just look at Immobile in that game where he lies in the opposition’s penalty box. There are dives and then there are pure theatrics..
 

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Yes he pulled his shirt backwards and by the laws of physics we all know that causes your body to propel forward on to the ground.
The shirt pull happened before the dive, therefore penalty!

Well, no penalty in this case as it was the worst referring performance in the history of any sport in the known universe.
 

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No, they defended well, and if they deserved feck all then neither do you. Having more possession does not make you more deserved winners if you can't put the ball in the goal. You had some half decent chances, but not like you were carving them open time and again.

The only funny thing is seeing the deluded England mob trying to justify that they won by cheating and thinking the world is aginst you. It was not a soft pen, but a dive. The strawmanning is ridiculous. England are a dull and boring team who deserved feck all in that game as well.
3.2 xg to 0.3. Take your nonsensical arguments elsewhere.
 

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Don't know about "cheating", but there's a match from 10 years ago I'm still mad about.
2009-10 season, away at Chelsea: blatant last man foul in the box by Terry on Rooney, nothing given. Then some dodgy decisions (offside? penalty not given? don't remember) against Valencia too.
Chelsea won 1-0 from a late free kick (some obstruction as it went in too I think), scored by Terry.
League decided by a point. (Same season as Drogba's very offside goal, but I think Macehda handled for his goal that game too).

Luiz's debut game (2-1 loss at the Bridge) was worse refereeing, he should have got a red and 2 yellows for various assaults and dives, but don't care since the league was won.

On the other hand, referee also let this slide in that game:

e - you can enjoy more salt i found the match day thread
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/chelsea-vs-manchester-united.274182/page-32
Chelsea should have been in the CL final against us. They were cheated out of it by Overebo. We'd have beaten Chelsea in the final of 2009 CL, therefore, United have been cheated out a CL win.
 

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So apparently it's not ok for England to cheat but it's totally fine for Spain, Germany, Portugal, Italy and France to make an art out of that.
Yes, because you never hear English commentators and pundits whining about them foreigners diving do you?
 

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Chelsea should have been in the CL final against us. They were cheated out of it by Overebo. We'd have beaten Chelsea in the final of 2009 CL, therefore, United have been cheated out a CL win.
:lol:
 

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A shirt pull is a foul, a foul in the box is a pen. That's something up for debate.

Drogba went down because refs are so useless that they rarely give fouls unless the fouled played hits the deck. He was a diver for sure but that was 100% a penalty.

You can't just get away with fouls because the player you are fouling is big or strong, that's ridiculous.

As for Abidal, he clipped Anelka's leg causing him to trip. That clip you posted looks like it was filmed on a Gameboy Advance camera so you can't see it.
Wow.
 

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Just look at Immobile in that game where he lies in the opposition’s penalty box. There are dives and then there are pure theatrics..
Can’t remember Immobile conning the ref into a pen?

At least in that case there was actual contact.
 
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To be fair to England the free kick Denmark scored from was also manufactured.
A great point, fell over from a standing position because an arm was against his chest.

I’m not gonna argue that, it was ridiculously soft as feck and “never a foul” if you think the Sterling one wasn’t, but Shaw stuck his arms across him and invited the situation.
 

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I shudder to think what would've happened in here tonight hand England lost.

Because several of you have absolutely shit the bed after a win.
 

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Chelsea should have been in the CL final against us. They were cheated out of it by Overebo. We'd have beaten Chelsea in the final of 2009 CL, therefore, United have been cheated out a CL win.
I never thought of that. We've been robbed and we didn't even know about it.
 

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A great point, fell over from a standing position because an arm was against his chest.

I’m not gonna argue that, it was ridiculously soft as feck and “never a foul” if you think the Sterling one wasn’t, but Shaw stuck his arms across him and invited the situation.
Actual contact vs no contact whatsoever.

Great argument.
 

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A great point, fell over from a standing position because an arm was against his chest.

I’m not gonna argue that, it was ridiculously soft as feck and “never a foul” if you think the Sterling one wasn’t, but Shaw stuck his arms across him and invited the situation.
I'm not saying Shaw didn't invite it. It was a mistake from him alright. I just think it evens it out a bit. Both decisions could well have gone the other way without too many complaints.
 

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Clear an obvious error. Which it wasn’t. There was contact, so the on field decision stands.
I mean it was very clear and obvious, contact does not equal penalty and there wasn't contact when Sterling started going down, there was a body brush as he was going down. It was *clearly* not a pen.

England was likely going to win anyway, but it was an absolutely garbage decision made all the worse by it being in extra time of the semi final IMO.
 

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Where do you think I called all of the natives scumbags?

Is someone pointing a lazer into someone else's eyes not a scumbag now? Was the scumbag not English?

For a country of such beauty and greatness, I'd have thought they might do a better job teaching people how to read.
Maybe you should re-read your original bitter, miserable little post if you haven’t edited it.
I can read perfectly well thanks to the free education my great nation provides. An education for which many people from around the world come to benefit from, and those people are all welcomed here with open arms. A xenophobe like you wouldn’t get that though.
As a newbie I’ve run out of posts now but it’s for the best as I’m off to enjoy my country making the final of a major tournament, something you’ll never experience.
have a great week…..I know I will x
 

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His legs :lol:

He's been gone for a while so my hate for him has subsided slightly. This just brings it all back. He was horrible.
He genuinely had a ribs broken from that kick from Evans. Don't know if you've ever broken a rib but it hurts like feck!

Drogba was a tart but this wasn't an example of it. You need to goto the Jens Lehman one for the best.