And what is wrong with fan service?
TBH i still found it better than anything DC has put out in the theatres aside from perhaps Harley Quinn which was also a fan serviced film.
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TBH i still found it better than anything DC has put out in the theatres aside from perhaps Harley Quinn which was also a fan serviced film.
anyone feels that Scarjo was aging quite fast, she's not even 40 which is young for hollywood standard but she already look tired, and worn out.
The movie was great, it has a well done comedy, and it's kinda touching because we know how she'll end up, and PUGH was mesmerizing.
Certainly 5 years too late, but nevertheless I enjoy this
The movie was great, it has a well done comedy, and it's kinda touching because we know how she'll end up, and PUGH was mesmerizing.
Certainly 5 years too late, but nevertheless I enjoy this
Yeah, I agree on that comment, but having kids does change people.
It was a good stand alone movie and maybe worked better knowing she dies in Endgame.
Technically the film falls just after Civil War which works and would allow a sequel if they wanted, but the end credit scene may confuse people if they kept that in say in 3 years time as wouldn't be necessary.
I’m not fundamentally opposed to fan service, just saying that was the only purpose this film served.
If you think she looks worn out for her age, I imagine you find it next to impossible finding a woman you’d be willing to date.
What the feck is wrong with you two?
If you have actually managed to find women, good luck to them.
What is your problem?
I offered a legitimate and factual reason why a 40+ year old woman would look different from one of 20 years ago.
Not sure why you are attacking. Deal with your issues please.
SJ looks worn out 
fecking lunatics.
fecking lunatics.
God, that shite cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit made the titles sequence hard to get through. The kind of thing you get in a car advert that nobody every actually chooses to listen to.
Don't forget it's because she's had a kid too!SJ looks worn out
fecking lunatics.
These people, seriously where the feck do we drag them up from
Thought Florence Pugh was very good. Could have done with someone of her talent as Sylvie in the Loki show.
Ray Winstone on the other hand was fahkin shite.
Overall average. Some good bits, a few fun set pieces, some tenuous stuff and a bit too safe and by the books in general. Doubt I'll be rewatching this very much.
Ray Winstone on the other hand was fahkin shite.
Overall average. Some good bits, a few fun set pieces, some tenuous stuff and a bit too safe and by the books in general. Doubt I'll be rewatching this very much.
Some decent performances in this, even though I generally found the film redundant and pointless. By the second half the thing went completely off the rails and moved from promising to just laughable. I found Pugh’s accent to be distractingly bad, and humour felt flat. It’s not helped by Black Widow being essentially a bit of shit character overall, and already being dead.
I kinda forgot she was dead. I am guessing it was the whole soul stone stuff in endgame
I remember reading somewhere that that's exactly what she wants to portray. It's not easy living on the run hunted down by the world's best force and biggest resources. And by this movie timeline she's been running for a while now, for simply believing what she did was the right thing to do.SJ looks worn out
fecking lunatics.
So maybe... just...maybe... look beyond the tits and the looks next time you watch a movie?
Got this on Disney+ last night. Some parts were fine, but after the heights of infinity war / end game and the success of the tv shows this was a well below par offering. Not something I would be inclined to watch again.
I only knew Taskamaster from the Spider-Man game so I was expecting a lot more trash talking and interaction which I think would have made them a more interesting villain.
Some of the influences were a little too on the nose too; Killing Eve, Terminator 2, James Bond, #Metoo.
I only knew Taskamaster from the Spider-Man game so I was expecting a lot more trash talking and interaction which I think would have made them a more interesting villain.
Some of the influences were a little too on the nose too; Killing Eve, Terminator 2, James Bond, #Metoo.
Maybe the 20 years aged her? Just a guess like.
These things don’t have to all be part of a larger whole. ‘Served no purpose’. It’s clearly a very good stand alone movie.
Agreed totally, it was a good movie and it had humour, action and fit inside it's own little bubble.
Get your eyes tested asap
This really should have come out before endgame (think knowing more about her would make her death a bigger deal on screen). And I agree with the notion she should have had a stand alone movie in phase 2 or beginning of phase 3.
I think her best outing since she was introduced in the iron man movie (though she was good in Ultron) and that goes to the stand alone movie point should have been sooner
The actors/actresses all did a good job. The story was ok but I agree with most the first half was better
Think they should have kept it more grounded instead of going too heavy with the explosions and stuff
It's a fun movie if you're a marvel fan which I am. Or a black widow fan.
Being the first marvel movie post pandemic will help it in box office terms
Overall enjoyed it and it was a nice movie to watch and have fun with
I think her best outing since she was introduced in the iron man movie (though she was good in Ultron) and that goes to the stand alone movie point should have been sooner
The actors/actresses all did a good job. The story was ok but I agree with most the first half was better
Think they should have kept it more grounded instead of going too heavy with the explosions and stuff
It's a fun movie if you're a marvel fan which I am. Or a black widow fan.
Being the first marvel movie post pandemic will help it in box office terms
Overall enjoyed it and it was a nice movie to watch and have fun with
Good movie. Good cast and acting. Let down by a weak plot and a weaker climax. Still fun watch.
I really hope they don't follow this with a Clint Barton backstory.
7/10.
I really hope they don't follow this with a Clint Barton backstory.
7/10.
So they didn't have you at hello ?
Also I think a few of the jokes were great. Especially the pose by Natasha's sister after making the joke earlier
Finally finished watching it. Definitely one of the worst marvel movies. I like most of the actors so that was a saving grace, but the second half was shocking. As is the fact all discusión seems to gloss over the fact she intentionally tried to kill, and ended up maiming, a little girl. Are we still supposed to see her as a hero? Oh I saved her by refusing to fight and gave her the magic red powder, no worries I burned her face off when she was a child….Terrible writing.
The biggest gripe was how laughably bad the accents were. Not even one of them was believable and multiple occasions they fall out of it and back in several times in a single monologue. It completely ruins your immersion in the movie.
She gets her nose broken about 4 times and five minutes later doesn’t even have a bruise.
Im glad this is the end of her character arc. This movie was completely redundant and there’s nothing left to say about her character. This was a chance to do something interesting, but all the potentially interesting themes were merely touched on at a very superficial level.
One of the few marvel movies I’m unlikely to ever rewatch. Marvel have gotten away with a few stinkers because they fit into a wider story, but when they are shit and stand-alone, it makes you realise how shit it really is.
The biggest gripe was how laughably bad the accents were. Not even one of them was believable and multiple occasions they fall out of it and back in several times in a single monologue. It completely ruins your immersion in the movie.
She gets her nose broken about 4 times and five minutes later doesn’t even have a bruise.
Im glad this is the end of her character arc. This movie was completely redundant and there’s nothing left to say about her character. This was a chance to do something interesting, but all the potentially interesting themes were merely touched on at a very superficial level.
One of the few marvel movies I’m unlikely to ever rewatch. Marvel have gotten away with a few stinkers because they fit into a wider story, but when they are shit and stand-alone, it makes you realise how shit it really is.
Didn’t even know this was out.
There's one criticism you made I understand. How a 'hero' tried to kill a little girl! FFS - it's a Disney movie. It's entertainment, not realism. Bad accents, plot devices, continuity errors, ... this is all to be expected in fantasy / supers movies.
Her skin could fall off and I would still begin rubbing jam all over myself in anticipation to giving her three minutes of disappointment.SJ looks worn out
fecking lunatics.
Don't think you are in the right genre given your expectations.
I think it all went over your head.
The entire MCU has countless touch points with Romanov. Some of her trauma is hinted at. Some details are painted in broad strokes. But she went from a very confronting and clearly damaged person, to a grown one. Her final act is one of sacrifice. That wasn’t even part of her DNA when we first saw her. We were introduced to an ex KGB agent and saw her grow into a proper human.
This movie fleshes out just how bad she was. So no. We are not supposed to see her as a hero. Quite the opposite. She killed a child without flinching. That through line enhances her story.
It’s the Civil-War/Black Widow period to when she jettisons herself in End Game that is the interesting theme.
The final act was over the top. Ray Winston was a little rough. The pheremones angle was lazy. But your post completely misses the point.
Saw this last night. One of the better marvel movies. Very entertaining and the intro song and scene was brilliant. A bit dark too. All the characters were well done except from that Winstone fella, doesn't seem to fit the role tbh. But other then that. Thought it was very good. Now the next few marvel movies are going to be total crap until Strange, spiderman or GOTG come out. Eternals and Chang Chi are 100% going to be shite.
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I enjoyed it, pretty much what I expected with the action & typical Marvel humour. The backstory with Budapest & the scene from the first Avengers with Loki gets a good pay off in the context of Natasha’s character. Thought Red Guardian & Yelena were very good.
Taskmaster’s identity was a bit obvious when they mentioned the daughter. Also, I read the cast names at the start credits & that spoilt it.
So Between Friday & Sunday Blackwidow made on Disney Plus $60m which is impressive.
No wonder Disney released this figure.
The film also made $80m in cinemas so far upto Sunday.
No wonder Disney released this figure.
The film also made $80m in cinemas so far upto Sunday.
The $80m is just US, it’s done $218 million total globally so far (cinema & Disney+) which is very good. I wonder if they’ll now consider keeping the hybrid cinema/Disney+ approach for the upcoming MCU films or stick with cinema only release (as seems to be the plan).
Yeah, these figures are very good and some reports are suggesting it might tempt a follow up if Scarlett is interested or whether it's the best way to leave the franchise on a high.
I generally love Marvel movies. Just thought this was shite.Don't think you are in the right genre given your expectations.
Come on now, over my head? Please. We hear about two or three minor references to her past throughout the timeline of MCU, but nothing that even comes close to suggesting she tried to kill a child. Assignations is one thing, this is another.
She doesn’t act all haunted in order to complete this redemption, just some isolated references to bad things she did. She even jokes to Barton “this is just like Budapest” at one point. Now we see Budapest was her maiming a child. Some contrition.
Amazing figures
I reckon it being the first marvel movie after a whole pandemic contributes too (but won't know without more movies)
Saying that d+ have quite a lot of tv shows coming out, marvel based so would be very surprised if they have more movies on the platform
Yeah, I have to say I like the Disney Plus approach and more importantly they don't have content coming and going.
Hopefully in a few years they can get Indy on there as well.
I think long term we’ll see more movies streaming at home for a premium fee at the same time as theatrical release. For example some of the less desirable Marvek properties which still benefit from general association with the brand. I paid $30 for premier access to Black Widow so myself my daughter and my stepson could watch it but had it not been available through streaming, it’s not a title I ever would have bothered going to the cinema to see. I’d have waited for it to come out on VOD for about $6. The more anticipated upcoming titles like Thor: Love and Thunder, I’ll certainly go to the cinema for. I do feel like it’s a whole additional market that can help generate better returns for less anticipated films.
I know many filmmakers are upset about some platforms decision to stream so much this year, but I’m loving it. Can’t wait for Dune. I know the director said it’s meant to be viewed at the theatre but I love the privacy and comfort of home viewing. Especially as I have the set up to mimic a cinema viewing. I think charging a premium for that will have legs.
I know many filmmakers are upset about some platforms decision to stream so much this year, but I’m loving it. Can’t wait for Dune. I know the director said it’s meant to be viewed at the theatre but I love the privacy and comfort of home viewing. Especially as I have the set up to mimic a cinema viewing. I think charging a premium for that will have legs.
It means the decision to keep pushing it back was the right move for Disney. They didn't want to release it last year to much smaller numbers when they had a massive potentially billion dollar movie.