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Hope we do if we’re actually selling Pogba. Ole needs to push the board to go for him. We can try including Lingard in a deal if possible.But we won't sign him.
Hope we do if we’re actually selling Pogba. Ole needs to push the board to go for him. We can try including Lingard in a deal if possible.But we won't sign him.
He wrote a song titled "feck off to Paris"?I'm pretty sure James Blunt wrote a fitting song about this..
How many trophies what? We've won two B-tier trophies with Pogba. That was status quo for Mourinho's team in the first two seasons, not Pogba elevating us anywhere.How many trophies?
Nothing is wrong with his performance. This ain’t Taarabt. He’s delivered. He’s won us trophies and helped us gain our new level of success which is top 4. It’s not his performances that are the issue. Otherwise there’s w long list of current players with less talent and less acceptable performances.
Neves actually plays in a midfield position we don't have so yeah he probably does. We can't even play Pogba in CM due to the deficiencies in his own game. He dwells on the ball, loses it in bad areas and fails to track his runners.The same as we got from our current players here. I don’t get your point. Are we a one man team?
Also who fits us better? I’m not disagreeing there I’m asking how does it improve us. Does replacing him with Neves (eg) improve us?
When playing against teams who don't sit deep, we need Pogba in advanced area and we can't play him in the deeper area but when we playing against teams who sits deep we need someone who offers more in attack than Fred/McT. Does this not enough to tell people what we actually need is someone who is more all rounder midfielder who can offer like 50:50 defense and attack not just someone who offers in attacking alone like Pogba?We also dropped him into midfield when Fred and McTominay where having a stinker as they are poor on the ball and doing there best to lose us one of the latter games.
Because we're losing Pogba?! I'm a long term Pogba defender, but thats utter utter nonsense.Could be looking at another Moyes era decline. Once again we take a step forward and then two steps back.
Rumours are we might switch to this formation.We don’t play that and what is his role in that formation? When is the last time you’ve seen him show good defensive attributes?
But that’s his job in the team. He doesn’t do that because we don’t really play possession based football. But for that role that’s his job. The only player in our squad can do that is VBD. However he would need to play and he’s not a better player than Pogba as we all know. So it’s a set down. But that doesn’t matter if we get a quality DM.Pogba is capable of brilliant passing but I wouldn't say that he dictates play for us. He doesn't really set the tempo or control the team around most of the time.
Nah but it says "goodbye" a lotHe wrote a song titled "feck off to Paris"?
Pogba scored less goals than Scott Mctomminay last season and only got 6 assists. Let's not go overboard with how 'important' he is to our team. He's probably not even top 5 most pivotal players for us.If Pogba is going just say feck it and sell VDB too so we can get Rice and Grealish.
If VDB is the Pogba replacement we are fecked.
If the club is serious they recognise losing Pogba is a huge loss regardless if what people thinkHope we do if we’re actually selling Pogba. Ole needs to push the board to go for him. We can try including Lingard in a deal if possible.
Or it could be that after the years that he's been here, he doesn't see us having progressed any further than when he joined. Should be a wake up call to the powers that be that we need really to be challenging this seasonExcellent. The sooner the better.
Get the circus as far away from this club as possible.
Well if he does it for PSG and He does it for France and he Did it for Juve then maybe the problem was us????It has been a waste of 5 years for both United and Pogba.
Neither benefitted from each other.
Time for both to move.
I very much predict him to look like prime Zidane against French teams.
Even an inconsistent Pogba can do things that nobody else can. Except maybe Grealish, but he's not an 8Because we're losing Pogba?! I'm a long term Pogba defender, but thats utter utter nonsense.
He's also a part of the team that didn't progress, though.Or it could be that after the years that he's been here, he doesn't see us having progressed any further than when he joined. Should be a wake up call to the powers that be that we need really to be challenging this season
Just makes us look weak imo.Because we're losing Pogba?! I'm a long term Pogba defender, but thats utter utter nonsense.
Eh I see where you're coming from, but he's wanted out for bloody years, we've all known it was coming eventually. If he'd signed a new deal, I'd still have expected more of this shite again next summer regardless. It's exhausting, as brilliant as he is and can be on his day. I'm tired.Just makes us look weak imo.
He's one of the reasons we haven't. If he turned up for us 8 games in 10 rather than 2 or 3 we might have won more than we have under him.Or it could be that after the years that he's been here, he doesn't see us having progressed any further than when he joined. Should be a wake up call to the powers that be that we need really to be challenging this season
Bending over and offering Raiola £30m and Pogba £400k a week for 5 years would make us look far, far, far weaker.Just makes us look weak imo.
You are sure just means you don’t know. You can’t assume something with confidence. Pogba does a job for us there without no fuss. Grealish does not have the personality to do a job he is very much a maverick and requires that role within a team.Rumours are we might switch to this formation.
His role will be driving the ball forward from midfield.
I’m sure his defensive attributes, if and when required of him, will be better then Pogba’s.
I’d like to see Grealish Neves Bruno.Playing with who?
Pretty weird to lie about it happening another half dozen times then.Taking it in the arse once is enough for most people.
Since you don't understand then take a look at Bayern when they played with Kimmich or Goretzka in midfield as easier explanation. No DM is required just all rounder midfielder who are discipline and can play in midfield two, and offer both attack and defense. Pogba is nothing like them and our system suits more for someone who is more all rounder in our midfield and will provide more balance.What player is this? We need a DM which he doesn’t offer us but we also need someone to dictate play which non of our current midfielders bar him offers us.
So we best have a good plan.
Its not so much that we are losing Pogba and more so that our Midfield 2 options would be Matic Fred McT and VDB who probably can't play there in the Prem.Because we're losing Pogba?! I'm a long term Pogba defender, but thats utter utter nonsense.
If he'd turned up in the FA cup semi final against Leicester. Or the semi final against Sevilla. Or the final against Villarreal.He's one of the reasons we haven't. If he turned up for us 8 games in 10 rather than 2 or 3 we might have won more than we have under him.
Bruno has come here and shown him up under the same manager and with the same teammates.
Neves is probably slower than Matic and not very mobile. But good luck looking for answers in him.Neves actually plays in a midfield position we don't have so yeah he probably does. We can't even play Pogba in CM due to the deficiencies in his own game. He dwells on the ball, loses it in bad areas and fails to track his runners.
Neves might not have the ability Pogba does but probably a better fit for our team.
Carrick probably didn't have the natural ability Pogba has but he was a much much better player for us. Why? Because his attitude was spot on. Always.
Midfield we are desperate tbf. Ours midfield 2 options are direAs much as we must replace Pogba this summer with a couple of players, we are finally more in a position where we don't need to bend over backwards and give him and his agent whatever he wants. De Gea got us when we were weak, hell you could say even Martial did with the deal he's ended up with. We don't need Pogba as desperately as we once did.
I agree with needing a DM apart from a CM. I was initially just mentioning that a player of Pogba’s caliber or atleast somewhat close to it is available, being Grealish.If the club is serious they recognise losing Pogba is a huge loss regardless if what people think
We need a DM with Pogba staying.
So if Pogba goes we should be signing a DM and a CM or Grealish.
It may sound crazy but we need two players to ensure our Midfield doesn't get worse
Cause right now our midfield already isn't good enough. If we risk it regressing next season by not adding to it and replacing Pogba it will cost us next season.
I guarantee it.
Where have I said I'd not want us to invest or I'd be happy with our current options if he leaves? I want two in even if Pogba was bloody staying! I've said for months we'll struggle to replace him, and we must do some brilliant business now to make up for his departure.Its not so much that we are losing Pogba and more so that our Midfield 2 options would be Matic Fred McT and VDB who probably can't play there in the Prem.
feck me that is one shite Midfield for a top team.
If we get 2 new CMs in that's a different story but your lying if we think that is near good enough. Doesn't have an ounce of passing ability in it.
Would have no one to spray long passes or switch the play. Would be the most limited midfield United have had in a long long time
You're not wrong there has to be said. So who can we get? The talk of Grealish is utter nonsense. Rice isn't even close to being the player that will dominate the midfield for us, Camavinga is a good shout but very young to be pinning our hopes on.He's also a part of the team that didn't progress, though.
He’s not mobile, his passing is good but I’ve never seen him have one game where he has got the better of a top class CM so I’m really worried why so much people have so much confidence in this guy.I’d like to see Grealish Neves Bruno.
I already mentioned this in one of my earlier posts recently but I think Neves being a PL proven player could be a good signing at the price being quoted.
Him being Portuguese may also help form a good bond with Bruno specially. It will be vital in terms of communication about positioning when playing a midfield 3 where discipline will be key.
Same, I read the tweet and was just, Meh, about it all. See what happens.Eh I see where you're coming from, but he's wanted out for bloody years, we've all known it was coming eventually. If he'd signed a new deal, I'd still have expected more of this shite again next summer regardless. It's exhausting, as brilliant as he is and can be on his day. I'm tired.
This. Pogba the midfielder won't be missed, and we need a DM either way. If selling Pogba gives us funds for another CM, it's even better.Just remember we wouldn't have got near the EL final without Pogba playing wide as wide playmaker. And we literary already signed Sancho for the role.
Like who?You're not wrong there has to be said. So who can we get? The talk of Grealish is utter nonsense. Rice isn't even close to being the player that will dominate the midfield for us, Camavinga is a good shout but very young to be pinning our hopes on.
I's favour a KDB type myself;brilliant, unassuming, influences games far more than Pogba,scorer of great goals
Available and our ability or willingness to get them is a different matter sadly.I agree with needing a DM apart from a CM. I was initially just mentioning that a player of Pogba’s caliber or atleast somewhat close to it is available, being Grealish.
I really see nothing different between France's Pogba and United's Pogba.Well if he does it for PSG and He does it for France and he Did it for Juve then maybe the problem was us????