Giggs trial

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Giggsy might have shot Kennedy but it's a very difficult angle from the grassy knoll on a moving target and he wouldn't have had any way of knowing he'd be able to make it until he tried. African and South American presidents get bumped off all the time and nobody bats an eye. It's also not a wise move to be riding around in an open top car about 900 years after the invention of the gun. Shocking lack of foresight.
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You'll always get people on here trying to twist your words.

Is violence against women OK? Absolutely not and those who do it should absolutely be punished.

But point I was making is that is this woman the innocent victim? Or was she hoping to provoke Giggs into a reaction so that she can swindle him for millions by attacking him in a way that will cause him to respond, while conveniently having her sister there to watch? Was it all premeditated?

I don't thing Giggs is the monster that many are so eager to portray him as here. Has he ever been violent with any of his previous 10,000 girlfriends? As far as I know he hasn't, so that's why I'm suspicious of this lady taking him to court.
 

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OMG, Just read through it. I haven't laughed as much reading posts on this forum in years :lol:
Can’t believe you didn’t see the memes these past few days. They were glorious I tell you. We even had a thread title update: “Rafael Varane | Jamaican Delegation plants red flag on the the moon”
You had to be there kind of stuff. Eh…
 

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Giggsy might have shot Kennedy but it's a very difficult angle from the grassy knoll on a moving target and he wouldn't have had any way of knowing he'd be able to make it until he tried. African and South American presidents get bumped off all the time and nobody bats an eye. It's also not a wise move to be riding around in an open top car about 900 years after the invention of the gun. Shocking lack of foresight.
:lol:
 

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Can’t believe you didn’t see the memes these past few days. They were glorious I tell you. We even had a thread title update: “Rafael Varane | Jamaican Delegation plants red flag on the the moon”
You had to be there kind of stuff. Eh…
Been a bit busy this week but glad I caught up....fecking hilarious :lol:
 

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Really, I didn't know that - they need a re-think on the name then.
Rash was awarded the Expert Panel Special Award for his off field charity work. The shame as there was no crowd to give him the ovation he deserved
 

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You'll always get people on here trying to twist your words.

Is violence against women OK? Absolutely not and those who do it should absolutely be punished.

But point I was making is that is this woman the innocent victim? Or was she hoping to provoke Giggs into a reaction so that she can swindle him for millions by attacking him in a way that will cause him to respond, while conveniently having her sister there to watch? Was it all premeditated?

I don't thing Giggs is the monster that many are so eager to portray him as here. Has he ever been violent with any of his previous 10,000 girlfriends? As far as I know he hasn't, so that's why I'm suspicious of this lady taking him to court.
Wasnt he accused of beating his girlfriend when he was young and learning at United?
 

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Actually he would need it despite the allegations. He’s never dealt with the demons of his absentee dad who was also abusive, the death of his mum who he worshipped and all the trust issues or lack of surrounding his relationship with Rodri.
The guy needs major help but it’s up to him to seek it.
I think his mother is alive?
 

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You'll always get people on here trying to twist your words.

Is violence against women OK? Absolutely not and those who do it should absolutely be punished.

But point I was making is that is this woman the innocent victim? Or was she hoping to provoke Giggs into a reaction so that she can swindle him for millions by attacking him in a way that will cause him to respond, while conveniently having her sister there to watch? Was it all premeditated?

I don't thing Giggs is the monster that many are so eager to portray him as here. Has he ever been violent with any of his previous 10,000 girlfriends? As far as I know he hasn't, so that's why I'm suspicious of this lady taking him to court.
No one's trying to twist your words.

You're doing a great job on your own of showing us how misogynistic you are.
 

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You'll always get people on here trying to twist your words.

Is violence against women OK? Absolutely not and those who do it should absolutely be punished.

But point I was making is that is this woman the innocent victim? Or was she hoping to provoke Giggs into a reaction so that she can swindle him for millions by attacking him in a way that will cause him to respond, while conveniently having her sister there to watch? Was it all premeditated?

I don't thing Giggs is the monster that many are so eager to portray him as here. Has he ever been violent with any of his previous 10,000 girlfriends? As far as I know he hasn't, so that's why I'm suspicious of this lady taking him to court.
Jesus, you have somehow made my opinion of you worse with your 2nd post
 
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Very naive of this lady to think she was going to have a committed spiritual union with Giggsy.

The likes of Italians and Brazilian footballers get to have as many birds they want, whenever they want, and it's kind of accepted by the girlfriends and wives.

I'll always defend Giggs. Yes he boned his brothers missus for years, but he had already been dating her before his brother got his hands on her. So his brother decided to marry a bird who his famous sibling had already been shagging for years. That's not a wise move and smacks of insecurity from Rodri. Anyways a lot of famous athletes are sexaholics. Comes with the territory. Very easy to judge them when you're a bloke who doesn't exactly have women hanging out of you.
do you also defend head butting and assaulting people?
 

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You'll always get people on here trying to twist your words.

Is violence against women OK? Absolutely not and those who do it should absolutely be punished.

But point I was making is that is this woman the innocent victim? Or was she hoping to provoke Giggs into a reaction so that she can swindle him for millions by attacking him in a way that will cause him to respond, while conveniently having her sister there to watch? Was it all premeditated?

I don't thing Giggs is the monster that many are so eager to portray him as here. Has he ever been violent with any of his previous 10,000 girlfriends? As far as I know he hasn't, so that's why I'm suspicious of this lady taking him to court.
Your first post was bad enough but you somehow decided to defend yourself by accusing the alleged victim and turning the alleged aggressor into a victim?

A friendly advice, leave the thread and shut the f up.
 

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You'll always get people on here trying to twist your words.

Is violence against women OK? Absolutely not and those who do it should absolutely be punished.

But point I was making is that is this woman the innocent victim? Or was she hoping to provoke Giggs into a reaction so that she can swindle him for millions by attacking him in a way that will cause him to respond, while conveniently having her sister there to watch? Was it all premeditated?

I don't thing Giggs is the monster that many are so eager to portray him as here. Has he ever been violent with any of his previous 10,000 girlfriends? As far as I know he hasn't, so that's why I'm suspicious of this lady taking him to court.
You don’t help by making a point like Littlefinger to be honest. :lol:

I don’t know whether he’s a monster or not but I certainly take a dim view of him fecking his brothers wife. It’s beyond the pale. I know people have extramarital relationships but doing that to your own brother is just grim and there is no excuse for it.

He should seek help in regards to his personal life as it’s clear he has issues in that department.
 

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SPOTY is on sporting merits only I think or else Rashford would have had it in the bag.
He's likely to be in line for a special recognition award of some sort rather than the main prize.
 

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Very naive of this lady to think she was going to have a committed spiritual union with Giggsy.

The likes of Italians and Brazilian footballers get to have as many birds they want, whenever they want, and it's kind of accepted by the girlfriends and wives.

I'll always defend Giggs. Yes he boned his brothers missus for years, but he had already been dating her before his brother got his hands on her. So his brother decided to marry a bird who his famous sibling had already been shagging for years. That's not a wise move and smacks of insecurity from Rodri. Anyways a lot of famous athletes are sexaholics. Comes with the territory. Very easy to judge them when you're a bloke who doesn't exactly have women hanging out of you.
This must be attention seeking.
 

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In court they are not going to ask ‘was it a setup on an innocent man?’ They are going to ask ‘did he assault someone?’ Yes. They’ll then ask if he used excessive force in the situation and whether it was justified. Depending on what the jury decide will depend on what sentence he is given.

I get people will try and defend him but this is a man with a past. I couldn’t turn round and defend John Terry for being racist at that moment in time and I couldn’t tell you if it was a one time thing or he is a full blown racist. I couldn’t defend him for whatever or however he got involved with Wayne Bridges ex. You guys shouldn’t be finding ways to excuse Giggs. Like Terry he has a history of poor decisions and it doesn’t paint a good picture for the man.
 

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He's likely to be in line for a special recognition award of some sort rather than the main prize.
I mean for last years. There was talk about it but he never won it.
 

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You'll always get people on here trying to twist your words.

Is violence against women OK? Absolutely not and those who do it should absolutely be punished.

But point I was making is that is this woman the innocent victim? Or was she hoping to provoke Giggs into a reaction so that she can swindle him for millions by attacking him in a way that will cause him to respond, while conveniently having her sister there to watch? Was it all premeditated?

I don't thing Giggs is the monster that many are so eager to portray him as here. Has he ever been violent with any of his previous 10,000 girlfriends? As far as I know he hasn't, so that's why I'm suspicious of this lady taking him to court.
Oh okay so she made Giggs mad before he hit her. Guess that’s fine then... hope he didn’t hurt his poor hand.
 

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You'll always get people on here trying to twist your words.

Is violence against women OK? Absolutely not and those who do it should absolutely be punished.

But point I was making is that is this woman the innocent victim? Or was she hoping to provoke Giggs into a reaction so that she can swindle him for millions by attacking him in a way that will cause him to respond, while conveniently having her sister there to watch? Was it all premeditated?

I don't thing Giggs is the monster that many are so eager to portray him as here. Has he ever been violent with any of his previous 10,000 girlfriends? As far as I know he hasn't, so that's why I'm suspicious of this lady taking him to court.
You seem to know him quite intimately. Wow 10,000 - player.
 

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Your first post was bad enough but you somehow decided to defend yourself by accusing the alleged victim and turning the alleged aggressor into a victim?
Why is this only a problem when done against the accuser, not the accused? Reading the last few pages you'd be forgiven for thinking he's actually been convicted.
 

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You'll always get people on here trying to twist your words.

Is violence against women OK? Absolutely not and those who do it should absolutely be punished.

But point I was making is that is this woman the innocent victim? Or was she hoping to provoke Giggs into a reaction so that she can swindle him for millions by attacking him in a way that will cause him to respond, while conveniently having her sister there to watch? Was it all premeditated?

I don't thing Giggs is the monster that many are so eager to portray him as here. Has he ever been violent with any of his previous 10,000 girlfriends? As far as I know he hasn't, so that's why I'm suspicious of this lady taking him to court.
Stop digging.
 

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Why is this only a problem when done against the accuser, not the accused? Reading the last few pages you'd be forgiven for thinking he's actually been convicted.
It's a problem in both cases but it's worse when someone make up something that is supported by nothing else than his imagination.
 

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In court they are not going to ask ‘was it a setup on an innocent man?’ They are going to ask ‘did he assault someone?’ Yes. They’ll then ask if he used excessive force in the situation and whether it was justified. Depending on what the jury decide will depend on what sentence he is given.

I get people will try and defend him but this is a man with a past. I couldn’t turn round and defend John Terry for being racist at that moment in time and I couldn’t tell you if it was a one time thing or he is a full blown racist. I couldn’t defend him for whatever or however he got involved with Wayne Bridges ex. You guys shouldn’t be finding ways to excuse Giggs. Like Terry he has a history of poor decisions and it doesn’t paint a good picture for the man.
Only one guy. Some have said to wait and see the outcome of trial before condemning him. Most have condemned it with the caveat "if true".

So yeah, we are not finding ways to excuse him.
 

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You don’t help by making a point like Littlefinger to be honest. :lol:

I don’t know whether he’s a monster or not but I certainly take a dim view of him fecking his brothers wife. It’s beyond the pale. I know people have extramarital relationships but doing that to your own brother is just grim and there is no excuse for it.

He should seek help in regards to his personal life as it’s clear he has issues in that department.
I can understand footballer having a fun time outside of their marriage. Not right. But i wont guarantee i wont do that if i were them.

But of all the hos and models you dont pick your fecking Brothers wife and fecking her for 8 years.

Imagine 8 years having no problem lying to his brothers and families all the time on xmas dinner at least.

That's some batshit psychopath level of cruelty.
 

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He should do time if it's true but he's filthy rich and has the best lawyers money can buy so even if convicted he probably won't see inside a cell.
 

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Well, if true, that's his reputation at the club well and truly f*cked, not like it wasn't hanging from a thread anyway.
 

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Very naive of this lady to think she was going to have a committed spiritual union with Giggsy.

The likes of Italians and Brazilian footballers get to have as many birds they want, whenever they want, and it's kind of accepted by the girlfriends and wives.

I'll always defend Giggs. Yes he boned his brothers missus for years, but he had already been dating her before his brother got his hands on her. So his brother decided to marry a bird who his famous sibling had already been shagging for years. That's not a wise move and smacks of insecurity from Rodri. Anyways a lot of famous athletes are sexaholics. Comes with the territory. Very easy to judge them when you're a bloke who doesn't exactly have women hanging out of you.
Have you lost your ticket to Tokyo2020 by any chance ? because this is some fecking amazing mental gymnastics on display here.
 

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I can understand footballer having a fun time outside of their marriage. Not right. But i wont guarantee i wont do that if i were them.

But of all the hos and models you dont pick your fecking Brothers wife and fecking her for 8 years.

Imagine 8 years having no problem lying to his brothers and families all the time on xmas dinner at least.

That's some batshit psychopath level of cruelty.
It is. Used to idolise Giggs but he’s a wild animal. These accusations against him… …I wasn’t surprised if I’m honest.