The thing is that’s a world class 11 on paper alone. It’s been proven time and time again that it’s better to have the right balance rather than just cramming in talent. Replacing Pogba with a lessor more balanced player will actually improve us as a team to be honest.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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You've already started providing some arguments, aka context for those statistics.
In this analysis the environment is different for each player, it has no baseline, no target, etc. It is not thorough or relevant enough to be used to compare players or conclude anything, as your caveats have already started to show.
It is just a random statistic that will have more meaning in the relevant context (most likely in a more in-depth statistical analysis that an analyst would carry out), but in this particular case means nothing. You wouldn't expect a football club to sell a player on the basis of that, that's for sure.
I wouldn't discount PSG like that, they've got to two CL finals recently and signed Donnarumma and Wijnaldum a PL and CL winner for their midfield. I can see Pogba going to PSG and getting a CL trophy pretty quickly and won't it make us look very good messing around for 5 years.
Young fans are into PSG, it might be all very recent and manufactured but PSG is a high profile club sadly
Young fans are into PSG, it might be all very recent and manufactured but PSG is a high profile club sadly
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they've reached the final once
Potentially you're right. But who is that player that will be better for us as a CM than Pogba. That's a tough one.
I don’t care if he leaves as long as we sign a good midfielder this window. I don’t care who that may be as long as they fit the team dynamic and play well on a regular basis.
I don’t expect them to score more than 5 goals a season, I don’t expect them to be fast, I don’t expect them to be world class. I just expect them to be steady enough to play for a top 4 side and want to be here and win things.
I don’t expect them to score more than 5 goals a season, I don’t expect them to be fast, I don’t expect them to be world class. I just expect them to be steady enough to play for a top 4 side and want to be here and win things.
In France and the Middle East he’ll be everywhere. Especially when Mbappe leaves and he’s the only French jewel.
Meh as long as they purchase him this summer all is well. Will be hard to take him walking for free once more. We get funds to invest in the team or facilities then all is well. Good player on his day, never really lived up to expectations on a consistent basis. I hope whoever replaces him is a better fit.
3 man midfield with 2 defensively capable players with him. Like the France / Juve setups he played in.
This pretty much perfectly sums it up for me. Although I'd like a few more goals if possible!
From a DM I’d be happy with a few bangers, and a lot more pre assist moves, if you know what I mean? Ala Modric.
Well it's a final plus a semi final, back to back semi finals. "CL finals" term can be used as a semi final and final description.
that's a new one.no one describes Ole reaching 5 finals when he got knocked out of 4 semi finals so no you're talking out of your arse, the final is the final, the semi final is not a final
I have read it used that way, not that I would agree with grouping semi finals and final as the finals stage.
Anyway the point I'm making is about PSG being a big brand plus getting a CL final and semi final in the last two years. I don't see Pogba brand suffering, being forgotten about and PSG could be very close to winning a CL.
From #pogback to #pogsidelined. -I suspect Raiola is hoping that some publicity will get the fans rallying to Pogba, or criticising the club gor letting him go.
There's a lot to criticise the club for at the moment, but Pogbas contract situation is not one of them.
The fact that most peoples reaction to him leaving the club is mainly about who replaces him should make him realise how he has squandered his opportunities at the club.
PSG suits him.
He will score great goals against weak sides and can try a bit harder in the big games.
There's a lot to criticise the club for at the moment, but Pogbas contract situation is not one of them.
The fact that most peoples reaction to him leaving the club is mainly about who replaces him should make him realise how he has squandered his opportunities at the club.
PSG suits him.
He will score great goals against weak sides and can try a bit harder in the big games.
He was excellent at the Euro's. He will be excellent wherever he goes, why?
Because they will setup to get the best from him, by doing their homework, knowing his one weakness and accounting for it in who they partner him with... In fact we should sell him because we obviously all thought he was going to be Kante
So you want a slow midfielder with a poor return on goals and assists?
Good because we will have bunches of that with McFred and Matic.
Hopefully though we sign a true DM that can defend, is sound positionallly and can help us maintain possession.
Yeah I think PSG has a big shot for the CL this season too. Not Donnaruma nor Wijnaldum imo their most important signing is Ramos. As much as I dislike his dirty side in the game, guy is the type you want to be in your team if you'd like to win big things.
Pogba played the same position as Bruno here quite a lot before Bruno arrived. As usual he was inconsistent in the role like he is in every other role.
I know you’re joking but we really only need a DM that has great positioning and the ability to thread the ball between the lines and find feet in front of him.He was excellent at the Euro's. He will be excellent wherever he goes, why?
Because they will setup to get the best from him, by doing their homework, knowing his one weakness and accounting for it in who they partner him with... In fact we should sell him because we obviously all thought he was going to be Kante
So you want a slow midfielder with a poor return on goals and assists?
Good because we will have bunches of that with McFred and Matic.
Hopefully though we sign a true DM that can defend, is sound positionallly and can help us maintain possession.
At the moment the only way we find our forwards is by going long which is a defenders dream if they’re playing a low block.
Yeah. It never happened. But whatever makes you feel better
Ndidi there as CDM would be perfection.
Hah just noticed my post was a mix of two replies I was trying to write, it’s a mess.
But yeah let’s see who we get in.
He did but people don’t want to hear this. They prefer the narrative where Pogba was hard done by and has somehow been mismanaged for 5 years
Someone else’s gain isn’t our loss. He could have left three years ago and his highlights reel wouldn’t be much shorter.
This.
Just put an end to it
I totally agree with previous posts that he is more suited for PSG where luxury players with high ego are welcome like neymar and mbapee..Dimaria..etc. Ofcourse it is good to keep our high profile players but pogba hasnot produced enough and we can always sign another star player.
Quality individual we would lose but potentially with hopefully a bit of money from his sale we can find the right replacement to be better as a team
We should try for the Dutch guy, De Jong!
That's an enormous downgrade. Not even sure about the middle-east. Qataris are hardly popular in the region.
He played 4 games the whole of last season. 4.
This. He would be perfect for us.
Wouldn’t happen but I think when you see a great player that suits your system you should try your luck.
The best possible player to bring in and actually be an upgrade on Pogba. One of the few.
Enlighten the whole of Redcafe of when this was.
Doesn't mean he'll only play 4 this. Besides PSG don't lack quality they lack balls and he's gonna give 'em that.
Ramos played only 4 games last season?
https://www.footballcritic.com/sergio-ramos/career-stats/5205
Well that works, they only play that many tough games a season.
The way they are going about it isn’t how you win trophies. City are so much better as a side and will be regardless because of their style. That has been perfected with Pep and PSG haven’t even came close.
They can buy Ronaldo and Pogba if they want but in the big games Marquinhos will be asked to do too much and they will get beaten by more solid sides and tactics.
Like Real Madrid’s galacticos in the 00’s they didn’t win that much.
Sell Pogba and buy a cdm. The balance of the team can lead to better result then hoping Pogba turns up. He is world class but no point in trying to keep him if he wants out. Instead use this as opportunity to address the balance of the team.
I know this is going to be really hard on some people. Don't suffer in silence and reach out...
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Has anyone seen a quoted price for Ndidi? curious how much they would want for him