Ok I see, just a bit curious as English is not my first language.
CL is unpredictable. I expect at least QF but I don't know which opponents we're going to face post the group. It completely depends on the draw.
I think you hit the nail on the head, we need to temper our expectations with reality
Indeed. I’d also like to see at least one game-changing sub before the 40 minute mark every other game and 70% more emotions on the touch line
This. Ole has done a solid job so far but no more excuses of any kind after getting Sancho and Varane in one window, possibly 1 or 2 more signings as well until the end of August.
I can see where you are coming from, butI'd argue we are Manchester United, not Spurs or Arsenal.
Yeah, that's a crazy take.
Is it the same Chelsea team that has added Kai Havertz, Timo Werner; Ben Chilwell, Ziyech, Mendy and Thiago Silva to the team for a total spend of roughly €250 million?
Weve spent roughly 400 now since Ole came in…
That's not how it works.
Yeah, I’d agree with something like that. It’s not about trophies - winning or losing cup competitions is too random (Arsenal won the FA Cup for years) and it’s not about “winning the title” - City are too far ahead at this point and we’re not going to spend half a billion to bridge that gap this summer, plus Liverpool will be back (were in the last third of last season) and Chelsea are up and coming too.
I know this forum loves Klopp and already seems to have forgotten his embarrassing title defence, but Liverpool are quite clearly on par with us. Chelsea are only marginally worse. Their midfield is more balanced than ours, which makes the job for their slightly worse attack and defence easier.
I don't really agree, it's far too binary.
How much have we spent?
On paper Liverpool are not on par with us anymore. Their attack is older with mane having a very poor last season and firmino not scoring and no options off the bench. Our attack is way better our midfield is better than there's and defence are equal. Chelsea are behind us maybe they will add let's see. City lost their best striker let's see if they add. If they don't there's no reason to say we don't have the best squad in the league.
It might be harsh but many top clubs they this ruthless approach. In my opinion there hasn't been any progress in terms of attractiveness of football, I still don't enjoy watching utd play but I do because I'm a fan. You could argue there is progress in terms of league positions but what does that mean really? Under Ole we had 66 points twice and last year 74. The 4 seasons before that we had 81, 69, 66 and 70. It continues to be in the same region bar that one season under Jose which was dramatically better than the rest. The 66 points at one point got us to 6th place and at another point to 3rd place. The league positions don't mean a thing when we're talking about progress. In the meantime in the cup competitions we continue to fail the truly big matches. So in my opinion we 1) play terrible football and 2) we simply don't win any trophies. I hope nobody forgot the terrible slump towards the end of the season... Because this is basically what Utd stands for the last couple of years: inconsistency.
On paper liverpool is a lot in front of us. People have short term memory. City won the title by a landslide but what did they do the season before last? Right they had a terrible season and looked finished (but they weren't). There is nothing to suggest this liverpool squad is finished. It had an injury ravaged season and they simply couldn't match the former heights. But if city can bounce back with a wonderful season then so can Liverpool.
Alot? On paper how are Liverpool alot infront of us? Their attackers are all over 31 now and they have absolutely no great options off the bench we have endless options in attack. Midfield wise they are very average and have lost one of their most important ones. In defence is about equal on paper. The
Liverpool's attackers are all 29
