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Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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Read the posts above. Apparently there's a link with Liverpool recently.
He struggles to justify with his current wage, let alone a huge pay rise IMO.
Let's hope we have learnt our lesson with contract renewals, otherwise our vast improvement in transfer activities will be undone by this.
Let's hope we have learnt our lesson with contract renewals, otherwise our vast improvement in transfer activities will be undone by this.
Would be a terrible move for all parties involved. Pogba would become the most hated former United player of all time.
Yep there's no logic in that at all tbf. Some said it's just a pathetic effort from the fat fecker trying to drum up things and I'd agree.
Same for Kante and all the German players, they've been back in full training since Saturday the 24th.
He is due back Monday. Varane probably came back early cause he had a transfer to sort.
Pogba has cut his holiday short for atleast 2-3 of our pre seasons in his time here. No reason he should do it every year.
You can only compare versus United players most of whom aren't back.
If he is not back on Monday maybe we have a talking point but as things stand this is a non issue
You all believe way too much shite that originated from shite newspapers.
It's half the reason the Pogba hate started.
He is a popular figure so making up false stores sells and you all have been taking the bait for years and getting yourselves worked up over it.
Extra week off, bloody slackers!
And in many previous years he cut his holiday short compared to others on our team!
As much as I hate Raiola, and the whole circus surrounding Pogba I think we should try to keep him for a number of reasons (Even though it would feel like a weight has been lifted off our shoulders if he left)
1) If we lose him on a free which seems most likely we would have to pay through the nose to get anyone of that quality - granted he doesn't always do it but look at what £50m Fred has brought to the team - I can't see us getting anyone equal too or better without spending out much more money overall.
2) If we finally manage to get a decent midfield partner for him and change our playing style (As has been rumoured) I feel like we could unlock more of his good qualities that often came out in a French/Juve shirt with a suitable partner to make up for his negatives.
3) It will leave us on better terms with Raiola and show more ambition which I'm hoping will help our pursuit of Haaland next year.
1) If we lose him on a free which seems most likely we would have to pay through the nose to get anyone of that quality - granted he doesn't always do it but look at what £50m Fred has brought to the team - I can't see us getting anyone equal too or better without spending out much more money overall.
2) If we finally manage to get a decent midfield partner for him and change our playing style (As has been rumoured) I feel like we could unlock more of his good qualities that often came out in a French/Juve shirt with a suitable partner to make up for his negatives.
3) It will leave us on better terms with Raiola and show more ambition which I'm hoping will help our pursuit of Haaland next year.
Pogba to Liverpool rumours screams of trying to force Utd to pay up.
Or more likely they scream of a paper writing nonsense?
Like seriously would United be afraid of losing him to Liverpool? Not a chance because they know it's impossible. He'd never join them. They'd never pay him that much either etc etc etc
Creativity and assists aren't the same thing. You know that right?
No they aren't. That's my point?
Yeah your right he’s shite isn’t he.
There's somewhere between "shite" and "best on the planet", that's where he is.
Exactly. Don't forget that we were excited about Pogba too (and rightfully because he is world-class as is Haaland). No star player helps you if that means a disbalance and broken team spirit.
This isn't a thing though is it? The media want to make Pogba into this trouble making, team destroying, evil figure, and yet theres' never been a shred of evidence that he is, apart from idiot Mourinho talking shite. No one ever seems to have a bad word to say about how he conducts himself off the pitch.
Any Utd fans who believe Pogba is a bad for the team spirit has been well and truly hoodwinked by the media.
Cool. Glad you cleared that up.
Imagine moving clubs and the only tangible benefit is that your agent gets paid £30m.
Clubs better wise up. Only takes a few to take a stand and when they stop returning Mino's calls and suddenly the players will drop him.
Clubs better wise up. Only takes a few to take a stand and when they stop returning Mino's calls and suddenly the players will drop him.
Absolutely and the media have done a first class job of doing so.
You're right, my bad. But I stand by my point, creativity is not the measure of good/average/bad midfielder. It'll always depend on the system. I have no problem with not-so-creative midfielders if they do the job right, and provide a good base for the team. I don't think Pogba does that and him being very creative doesn't nullify other flaws he has as a midfielder. It's totally different when he plays in more advanced positions.Creativity and assists aren't the same thing. You know that right?
No they aren't. That's my point?
Always happy to educate.
I know management and players never say a bad word about him, but I think they are just toeing the line. The fact both he and his agent have publicly stated on one more than one occassion his intent to leave, that must cause issues. Remember Pogba has openly said this also, it's not all just his agent. I know as a fan that shit hurts. I'd imagine players who are busting their balls to succeed at Utd look at one of our most highly paid players constantly being linked with leaving and must hurt them also. Pogba himself, back in 2019 season publicly said, it might be time for him to leave, that's how long this shit has been going on. It's one thing if like Ronaldo who we knew wanted to leave also, but he was tearing it up on the pitch, but Pogba hasn't. We are all just guessing here, we won't know for sure until someone writes a book about it in a few yrs time
Managers and players have gone out of their way to heap praise upon him, not just toeing the line when questioned.
You can want to go to a new job and still get on very well with your current colleagues and employers. To me it seems thats basically Pogba. I still think he'd stay too, so it's not as if he hates us, as much as people seemingly want him to?
That's not exactly fair though. There can be numerous factors behind him wanting to move, such as playing in a position he finds most comfortable, wanting to experience more in his career, and if we're honest, standing more of a chance of winning a CL (the team they are building there seems to definitely be assembled for the short-term immediate ambition of winning the CL).
I never said that it was an exclusive measure for a player. It's part of it, depending on the role of the player. That's why no one mentions creativity or goals when speaking about Kante because, yes, he's a defensive player. But with Pogba, he is critiqued for his defensive contribution his creativity, his goals; he's expected to contribute and be responsible for every aspect of a midfielder. You'll see him criticized for those very things in just the last few pages of this thread. That same level for scrutiny isn't levied at everyone.
Where in my post I said I believe a tiniest bit of that?
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As if Liverpool will pay Pogba £350k a week..
He wants £400k+ pw, doesn't he? Also, the thought of Pogba swanning about in a Klopp midfield is rather amusing.
Even worse then, yeah it’s nearly laughable to think of Pogba been involved in Klopp’s high pressure press..
He did not sold him though. Offered a contract which would have made him one of the highest paid teenagers in the world (and higher than what he got at Juve), but Pogba declined it.
Imagine the confused little empty heads on RAWK if Pogba went there 
What would it do to Souness if Pogba joined Liverpool?
Seriously we CANNOT sign any player represented by Raiola again.
Seriously we CANNOT sign any player represented by Raiola again.
exactly, almost like it's forced, that's the way it seems to me. Again we don't really know, we can only guess. But when his agent is talking crap before a big european game for example, I'd imagine that doesn't sit well with the team. It must also causes issues when they know what he can do on a pitch yet we don't consistently see it. As a fan it's infuriating. Top players often bring drama, but it's offset by their performances, we've really only got the drama with a glimpse of performances now and again. Take the recent euros, some of his teammates weren't too happy with him, maybe our players should react a bit more like that to him than go "out of their way" to praise him.
Except for Haaland!
Raiola is one of the most despicable cretins in world football. Also, not happy with the fact that Pogba lets him to it.