It depends how it’s spent. We remember what happened the last time Spurs had a huge amount of cash to spend from the Bale sale.
Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."
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Hes been loyal enough and a footballers career is short. He wants to move so he can win some trophies, who can bregudge him that? Obviously its not that simple. Trying to convince a city player to join spurs might be tough as a makeweight.
If he were potentially signing for Utd and not City the reaction on here would be very different.
Yeah of course - but its been obvious for a few years now that our squad needs a total overhaul so selling Kane would enable us to do that - you are right though, need to get the right players.
Well by all accounts he hasn't turned up for training. If certain clause were met on this gentleman's agreement and Levy still didn't agree, then you can understand why Kane hasn't turned up.
Of course gentleman's agreements aren't worth a thing in a court of law, however, if you're having to take it to a court of law as a footballer and a chairman, then relationships are already broken beyond return.
This is why no gentleman's agreement should be in place from the beginning. A gentleman's agreement being broken is somewhat worse than having a legal contract in place.
Spurs fans are already absolutely disgusted in him for whats happened today - if this continues and he essentially goes on strike then he will go from one of the most loved Spurs players in recent history to being utterly hated. It's especially bad because he is a boyhood Spurs fan and the entire 'myth' (I now say myth) was that he is 'one of our own'. No Spurs fan would have bemoaned him leaving the club for City because we know the situation and he deserves a big move eventually however he has just thrown all of that good will away if he strikes.
Of course it matters where they play. These are players they would have been looking to bring in regardless of whether Grealish left. Put it this way, I’d be amazed if they didn’t go for another left sided player if he did go.
I think too much is being made of this. What if he just couldnt make it to training due to his kid being sick or something along those lines?
Yep, it's clear clubs do this to protect value. There is no secret there, I should think the club and the agents and therefore player are fully aware of this fact. However that doesn't necessarily mean Kane did it in a selfless act or it was packaged as a deal that meant Spurs could sell for X amount. There are two sides at work and both are clearly out for their own interests.
The trouble is Kane knows this but signs a bumper contract because it's the best thing for him at the time financially. Now the best thing for Harry Kane is to be sold, apparently. So now he's working to that end it would appear. The players want everything, they want the stability of a long deal, eye watering wages and the expectation that the club will sell them if they perceive that it's better for their career. That's not a fair expectation in my opinion.
If Levy somehow deceived Kane then it is wrong but this is the whole point of adequate representation for the player. He can receive advice with some amount of expertise and when he signs the contract he knows what his obligations are, throwing his toys out now just doesn't cut it.
Yeah, certain agreement would have been in place between them for the "gentleman's agreement."
If those agreements aren't in place as agreed, Levy is well within his right not to sanction a move and Kane should get on with what he is being paid to do.
However, if those agreements have been met and Levy decides to change the agreement, then I understand Kane's frustration
4 year deal would be £4.5m a year... so something like £90K a week
whats he on a spurs? 200k... so would need 300k at city just to pretty much break even
I am pretty sure Levy has history with this. I hope Harry forces his way out.
Clubs getting annoyed by tapping up is basically the reason that two Spidermen meme was invented.
I don't begrudge him anything. A footballer's career is indeed short which is why it was a mistake to sign a six year contract. Don't be surprised if your counter-party actually holds you accountable for signing it midway through the contract.
The situation is hardly similar. Pogba hasn't not turned up for training when he was expected. He is deliberating on whether to sign a contract or not, Kane has already signed his. I don't agree with Pogba's stance in commitment but he isn't doing anything in contravention of his contract.
I'm holding out for something like this because Harry has always conducted himself in a very professional manner. However it isnt looking good right now and the silence from the club is deafening.
If there ever was such a conversation, I'm guessing it will have been along the lines of "we will sell you next summer if we get a fair offer / an offer that meets our demands" or something along those lines. Basically means nothing probably, Levy is smart enough not to agree on a transfer fee with a player beforehand, especially given the European Cup and stuff like that all in between which could've raised his market value substantially as well.
He should not have signed a long contract then. It's the club's decision on whether to sell. If he really wants to go, he should hand in a transfer request and say it.
I think if that was the case, it would have been said by now.
Rumour going around now is that City may offer £140million + Laporte. If this was true I'd be very happy with that.
No chance
It would be one hell of a fall from grace for Laporte! From 'bestest defender in the world' to Europa League conference in a season!!
No doubt Levy is clever. He has proven it to be the case.
Kane and his brother? I'm not too sure. So yeah, your suggestion probably correct. But if Kane and his brother were intelligent, they would have gathered figures from both City (as what they will pay) and from Spurs (what they will sell for).
No idea why Laporte would want to move there. He can't be forced to.
Probably just lost his car keys.
I cant see it happening either but I'd be 100% behind it if it did!No chance
Do you not think there was an air of inevitability about this? This Spurs team aren't exactly capable of competing and Kane was already making noises about wanting out prior to the Euros.
Levy has a reputation for making life difficult for players who want out. Unless Kane wants to sit idly by for another season this was his move.
But the club have all the power due to him still having 3 years on his contract - Kane would have the power to do what he wanted next summer when he only has 2 years left. To try and force a move right now when it's not even clear if City will pay what Levy would demand seems very foolish from Kane's side.
No they’re not ….the rational Spurs fans could see this happening.
He’s given his football career to Spurs and England. He told the club in May he wanted to leave, seemingly already having a gentleman’s agreement with Levy. How can any genuine Spurs fan be “disgusted“ with him?
His leaving is a result of years of lack of investment in quality players, which had it been done Spurs would have secured some silverware and Kane would not be in this situation.
If Spurs fans want to blame anyone, then blame Levy.
Yes they absolutely are - no spurs fan would begrudge him a move - but to not turn up has basically turned all the fans against him now. His reputation is in tatters right now as far as Spurs fans are concerned.
Stupid decision from Kane. His argument is that he has a gentleman's agreement. He's relying on the court of public opinion to exert pressure on Levy. Going on strike will simply harden Spurs fans opinions in favour of Levy over him, at which point it becomes easier to either reject any bid or ask for so much that City (or any club) can't afford him. Even worse, unless he refuses to play for Spurs ever again, he has to return some time. When he does he'll seem weak and even more power goes to Levy.
The right approach here would be to take the moral high ground. Continue to ask to leave while doing it for Spurs. Play the wounded party. Best chance he has.
The right approach here would be to take the moral high ground. Continue to ask to leave while doing it for Spurs. Play the wounded party. Best chance he has.
I think Levy will hold firm, while Kane still has years left on his contract, Levy holds power and I think Kane would cost too much money this year.
This contract he signed some years back is silly though. He should have thought to himself, "when I'm 28, if I still haven't won something with Spurs, I need the power to make a quick and easy escape from the club," and negotiate on those principles. This 'gentleman's agreement' is ridiculous, you should never assume that the other party will uphold it as these things can be twisted to suit ones agenda, if Levy really meant it, then he should be made to put it into the contract.
This is the case if Kane has indeed refused to turn up to training and it isn't a case of he should be coming back at a later date.
This contract he signed some years back is silly though. He should have thought to himself, "when I'm 28, if I still haven't won something with Spurs, I need the power to make a quick and easy escape from the club," and negotiate on those principles. This 'gentleman's agreement' is ridiculous, you should never assume that the other party will uphold it as these things can be twisted to suit ones agenda, if Levy really meant it, then he should be made to put it into the contract.
This is the case if Kane has indeed refused to turn up to training and it isn't a case of he should be coming back at a later date.
How else do you suggest he’s supposed to make people take him seriously?
No idea why Rio is taking potshots at the expense of Kane. There is a stark difference between how Kane has handled himself over the years vs PP.
I'll leave out the bit about 100 mil being a reasonable price for him for whatever reason, but he you're putting it like he can't stop working for Spurs any time. He can, he'll just have to pay the fines that are included in his contract. What he can't do is to go to their competitor without the club's permission — and they've paid a hefty price over the years to ensure that right. He could've negotiated a different contract if he wanted to (likely with a lesser salary), but he didn't.
You and I both know how this works. Players have all the power, once they decide they don't want to be at a certain club, you are best to move them on. Nothing to gain from that from clubs perspective by forcing them to stay.
Is there? Or is there a stark difference between what you have read about Kane and what you have read about Pogba?
Enlighten me.