Lionel Messi \ Signs for PSG

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Who's going to offer the overrated one the contract he desires? I suspect his next club would gain loads of money from new sponsors but whether that'd be enough....
 

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What actually happened? I thought he looks certain of staying after agreeing to a 50% paycut and with him finally winning something with Argentina and favourites for Ballon D'Or, he looks to fire Barca to the title next season. Barca President's statement sounds like they have had enough of him so will be interesting to see if this is on Messi or Barca. Funny thing is I think Barca will survive without him and could win La Liga next season.
It’s actually quite convenient when you think about it. No Barca president wants to lose Messi under their watch due to the fan backlash, but then his wages are (along with others) sinking the club. Enter La Liga financial regulations to force their hand..
 

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Messi wasting last years of his career in Ligue 1 would be a shocker. Doubt it'd even work that well, Messi, Neymar, Mbappe front line would be quality but also totally unmanageable.
(Further) payday for a couple of years, win the Champions League and then return to Newell's Old Boys?
 

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It’s actually quite convenient when you think about it. No Barca president wants to lose Messi under their watch due to the fan backlash, but then his wages are (along with others) sinking the club. Enter La Liga financial regulations to force their hand..

Plus they're definitely going ahead with stadium renovations which'll cost around £700m.
 

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Chelsea are going to pay North of €120M for Lukaku. If I were Abramovic, I'd rather use that money to pay Messi's wages and get a historic footballer playing for my club.

But PSG are favourites unless la liga feel the pressure to change their stance on the fair play rules.
Or Messi just decides to take less money
 

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I would rather bring Ronaldo back than go for Messi. I’m actually very curious about where he goes next summer. Rumours were he’d go to PSG and if Messi goes there than it’s out of the question.
I guess he could be a plan B if for some reason we can’t get Haaland next summer.
I’m a firm believer Ronaldo would do wonders for us. Clearly Cavani can’t play every game and neither can him so it’s quite a good match. Also if we ever wanted to play Greenwood with one of them against the low block teams we would be hard to defend against. Ronaldo with one touch shots or Greenwood slipping in behind a line for a quick one two
 

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Messi wasting last years of his career in Ligue 1 would be a shocker. Doubt it'd even work that well, Messi, Neymar, Mbappe front line would be quality but also totally unmanageable.
Would it? For some reason I always thought of him being exaclty that type of guy. Wouldn't have ruled MLS out either. Seems a greedy cnut
 

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If this is correct, absolutely mental. Public ownership doesn't seem that enticing.
A plc is a sort of public ownership. The key here for me is fan ownership. Just look at the number of fans urging us to sell everyone and buy Messi or wouldn't mind if he offer him 1m per week because "he's worth it". Fan ownership opens a board to pressures you wouldn't see in any other ownership structure. The thing is you can't even bank on there being financial controls unless it is imposed by an external entity, such as the league. With the exception of this last election, virtually every presidential campaign headlines are about the players any candidate will bring. It feeds into an unsustainable culture. Even this last election, all the candidates were promising to re-sign Messi no matter what.
 

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A plc is a sort of public ownership. The key here for me is fan ownership. Just look at the number of fans urging us to sell everyone and buy Messi or wouldn't mind if he offer him 1m per week because "he's worth it". Fan ownership opens a board to pressures you wouldn't see in any other ownership structure. The thing is you can't even bank on there being financial controls unless it is imposed by an external entity, such as the league. With the exception of this last election, virtually every presidential campaign headlines are about the players any candidate will bring. It feeds into an unsustainable culture. Even this last election, all the candidates were promising to re-sign Messi no matter what.
Yes, meant to say fan ownership.
 

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He's not gonna sign that much with anyone. He will take a paycut.
50m a year is already a huge payout for Messi, around half of what he used to earn at Barca. Remember, he had a 4 year contract with Barcelona which cost 550m, which is around 135m per year. To own Messi, you either have to literally break the bank or borrow from oil field.
 

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Apparently his signing fee is huge according to reports.

Any reduction in wages he agreed at Barca, was basically rectified by his signing fee.

So he was never doing Barca any favours.

Will be interesting to see what PSG end up paying for him plus wages.
 

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Apparently his signing fee is huge according to reports.

Any reduction in wages he agreed at Barca, was basically rectified by his signing fee.

So he was never doing Barca any favours.

Will be interesting to see what PSG end up paying for him plus wages.
I have no doubts PSG will pull this off. Even with FFP considerations. One of the gambits of ESL fiasco was Nassar Al-Khelafi becoming the chairman of the ECA (European Club Association) and siding with UEFA of the ESL coup. Plus QATAR are hosting the world cup in a year and the jewel in the crown of world football playing for thier club PSG will only strengthen their white washing ambitions.

Probably never been a better time to land the one player they always wanted.
 

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Add Messi's salary and that means Barcelona have been in negative for years.
Barca have been relying on Superleague as have Madrid and Spurs and why all 3 clubs are in the most trouble,

Spurs are okay so long as they can fill up the stadium and get the NFL running.
 

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(Further) payday for a couple of years, win the Champions League and then return to Newell's Old Boys?
He will probably be offered €100m+ a season and will stick around for 2-3 years, while also getting €150m or so as his signing on fee… Good business I say.
 

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If not PSG where? would it be retirement for Messi having priced himself out of a move?
 

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50m a year is already a huge payout for Messi, around half of what he used to earn at Barca. Remember, he had a 4 year contract with Barcelona which cost 550m, which is around 135m per year. To own Messi, you either have to literally break the bank or borrow from oil field.
He is still gonna take more of a paycut in the next opportunity.
 

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If not PSG where? would it be retirement for Messi having priced himself out of a move?
He has enough money, he is going to go to PSG for sure, only club that can hide from the FFP. He just has to reduce his salary and take a HUGE signing bonus and PSG works its way around FFP per usual. I don't know how Poch is going to control that team if he does sign for them, that is a lot of talent all wanting the ball and goals.
 

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I agree with Anka's sentiment, but surely if a "normal" company were spending a high percentage of their revenue on wages, paying their workers such high salaries... this wouldn't be considered hyper-capitalism - they'd be considered quite an ethical company wouldn't they?

Although ofcourse in football situation the players are assets/products aren't they.
I think they would be considered a stupid company, whichever way you slice it.

Perhaps for different reasons but neither Shell or John Lewis would spend so much of their revenue on staffing costs. The one thing they'd all agree on its its the opposite of ethical to run a business in a way that endangers its viability.

However, you're right, its the opposite if hyper capitalism. Hyper capitalism would see the shareholders bank a good chunk/most of Barca's revenue, rather than strengthen the side or invest in facilities...

...sound familiar? ;)
 

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Apparently his signing fee is huge according to reports.

Any reduction in wages he agreed at Barca, was basically rectified by his signing fee.

So he was never doing Barca any favours.

Will be interesting to see what PSG end up paying for him plus wages.
I read that the reduction in wages was nothing more than an accounting trick in that they would be paying him for two years after he'd left the club after two seasons to go to America. There was no actual wage reduction.
 

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I will never hate a club more than psg. State run clubs need to go. They face no financial threats at all. Hell bring me the super league with that as one of the foundations of it
 

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I might have to go on loan to PSG for the season. Messi, Neymar, Mbappe every week protected by Gini, Verratti, Ramos, Donnarumma and supported by Hakimi, Di Maria and them man ?

If they don't clean up all the trophies it's actually peak for them.
 

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He has enough money, he is going to go to PSG for sure, only club that can hide from the FFP. He just has to reduce his salary and take a HUGE signing bonus and PSG works its way around FFP per usual. I don't know how Poch is going to control that team if he does sign for them, that is a lot of talent all wanting the ball and goals.
and how are they going to pay for it has financial implosion or Barca 2 written all over it.
 

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If he doesn't move people say he's safe in his comfort zone etc.

I don't see the issue. Messi probably needs a change. Barcelona need a fresh start and to be run well more than they need specific individuals. It could work out to the benefit of everyone.

And Barcelona fans should support the players they do have. Some are still very good footballers and may shine once thr club's overall direction improves.
Can't agree. If he'd left when he was 30 of his own volition he would have gotten credit for taking on a new challenge. Now he's leaving to get more money. 34 years old is not the time to seek the first new challenge of your career when your boyhood club is going down the drain.

I cannot believe that Barca will weather the next few years without Messi than with him, for two reasons:
  1. Surely a chunk of Barca's commercial revenue will be tied to Messi, they'll be losing that
  2. Having an old, experienced head during transitions must surely be a good thing. Would we ever think that having players like Scholes, Neville, Solksjaer, Rio etc. around the squad would have been a bad thing?
Long story short, he could have opted to stay and play for a very average La Liga wage, but he chose not to.
 

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How much should Messi earn? I mean. Look at some players wages nowadays and we are talking of one if not the best player in the history of the game.

If he goes to PSG i will start to see their Ligue 1 matches. Same for many, many people. He's a massiva name for a brand. We will see now how big.
 

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He would never go back to Argentina or the MLS. He has no affinity for the Argie clubs nor will the MLS honour the type of contract he seeks. It will be Europe.
 

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Care to translate this "Ultimate whore 'a'" for us
Basically says Chelsea's looking for an opportunity to go for Messi. Has taken stock of Man City's position and is signalling its intent to go for Messi, potentially alongside Lukaku. Says Abramovich wants to meet as soon as possible.
 

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Basically says Chelsea's looking for an opportunity to go for Messi. Has taken stock of Man City's position and is signalling its intent to go for Messi, potentially alongside Lukaku. Says Abramovich wants to meet as soon as possible.
No chance in hell of that happening. The only side that can afford him apart from PSG is City and Pep confirmed they're not signing him. The article is just a clickbait.
 
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Messi showing himself to be a bit of a dick tbh.

Knowing how fecked Barca are he still demands that weekly fee - as a one club guy that pretends to love Barca he could easily forgo his wage for 1 year. The guy is worth over €600 million - he'd still get his ludicrus endorsement deals.

How much money can one man need?
 

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If not PSG where? would it be retirement for Messi having priced himself out of a move?
Well this is the point.

If he wanted to stay at Barca the club he loves, he could have signed for minimum wages.

Likewise, if he loved playing football, he could happily reduce his wages to say £200k to £350k a week for example.

But instead, he will be demanding £500k plus a week wages and a huge signing fee on top.
 
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