Yes, they are. People should bare this in mind when they get themselves worked up about what we pay our best players.Which is fair enough cause at the end of the day Salaries are a byproduct of how much you can get elsewhere.
Yes, they are. People should bare this in mind when they get themselves worked up about what we pay our best players.Which is fair enough cause at the end of the day Salaries are a byproduct of how much you can get elsewhere.
Can I just shock you? I like Neil Custis. Despite what I said earlier.
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Nothing wrong with thatMy suspicion is that he wont resign until after the transfer window closes.
I'd be ok with him leaving on a free next season too to be honest. Losing him weakens the squad right now. Go out on a high Paul, win us big ears!if he stays, has a great season and helps us win a trophy then pisses off to PSG or Madrid....peace out
at least then we aren't tied to another ridiculous contract like we have with Phil Jones
We already have a roaming midfielder with lots of freedom - Bruno Fernandes. I don't think we can field two.Doesnt it seem like Ole finally has solved the puzzle where and how to play him though, as a roaming midfielder with full freedom?
I agree the Leeds game shouldnt be seen as a benchmark since they seem to be our perfect match and not using compact defence, but still - I think Pogba absolutely will thrive with no positional requirements, not to mention that Sancho and Varane very likely will make him better as well.
Also agree that any ludicrous demands shouldnt be accepted, but paying him at the very top end of our wage structure is justifiable I think . Which is what we are rumoured to have offerede him anyway.
Doubtful. Only 1 club in the whole word pays astronomical salaries atm. If he goes there it might be astronomical, but anywhere else it won't.Haaland's wage will also be astronomical. I think we won't get him for this very reason.
I mean, yes we can. It literally just happened at the weekend and in many matches last season when Pogba played.We already have a roaming midfielder with lots of freedom - Bruno Fernandes. I don't think we can field two.
It's £510k, but even that is an absurd number to be honest. Anything more than £400k including bonuses should not be offeredWe can't and won't give him £600k per week. He's not worth it and we can't afford to do it. We don't necessarily have to match PSG's offer though - after all, they have to pay a bit extra to persuade him to head off to a second tier league to play for a club with no real European pedigree.
Okay then, free role off the left. I guess I was thinking too narrowly in terms of central midfield.I mean, yes we can. It literally just happened at the weekend and in many matches last season when Pogba played.
Whether he's such an improvement on Rashford, Sancho, Martial that it's worth spending another €600k pw on top, is very debateable. He had 3 assists in all of last season, playing the majority of his games with the same instructions as he did at the weekend (wide playmaker, starting from left but with freedom to move).
I think they just signed some little argentine fella, he might turn out to be quite popular, so maybe they dont need Pogba for that reason?He is leaving, right ?
Hope we uses the next one year to identify a proper midfielder to replace him. Mbappe is leaving PSG and they would need a star man to replace him.
That sounds abut right for both sides, if he is genuinely happy here, and as reported his family like it, the team is starting to take shape and looks capable of challenging, he gets a significant increase, we dont bend over and take it hard from his agent for a stupid messi-esque salary and signing bonus, its win-win,He'll renew at about £400K a week. I would put money on it.
I’ve been preaching this for years. Glad you’ve convertedI really do not think we are far off from mounting a serious title challenge.
If we can keep Pogba then we will be in great shape for the next few seasons I think.
There have been times where I have thought 'enough is enough', he needs to go. However, a blind man can see that he is a unique talent who in the right setup (cliché I know) can thrive.
I really don't care what it takes to keep him, just hope that we do.
If we're keeping him then we really need to buy the best defensive midfielder in the world to make it all work (assuming he predominately plays in a three with Bruno).I really do not think we are far off from mounting a serious title challenge.
If we can keep Pogba then we will be in great shape for the next few seasons I think.
There have been times where I have thought 'enough is enough', he needs to go. However, a blind man can see that he is a unique talent who in the right setup (cliché I know) can thrive.
I really don't care what it takes to keep him, just hope that we do.
I'd agree, Michelle.He'll renew at about £400K a week. I would put money on it.
Can I just shock you? I like Neil Custis. Despite what I said earlier.
Graeme is that you? :-)fck me i'm about sick of always the main topic surrounding united is Paul Pogba
Graeme is that you? :-)
How do you know how much he could get elsewhere? From papers?Which is fair enough cause at the end of the day Salaries are a byproduct of how much you can get elsewhere.
To replace Pogba you are going to have to spend £50-£60 million and then pay them £300k + a week.Maybe we should have a poll as to what constitutes an acceptable salary for Pogba for a new contract.
I don't see the point of giving him anything more than 350k and would prefer a 3+1 contract, rather than a 4+1. But he won't agree anyways.
Pretty much this.To replace Pogba you are going to have to spend £50-£60 million and then pay them £300k + a week.
Giving Pogba £400k a week is a far cheaper option, even if his greedy bastard agent gets £20 million commission.
Doesn't that just incentivize players to run down their contracts and demand huge fees? What if Rashford / Greenwood decide not to extend until their final year and demand 400k+ each?To replace Pogba you are going to have to spend £50-£60 million and then pay them £300k + a week.
Giving Pogba £400k a week is a far cheaper option, even if his greedy bastard agent gets £20 million commission.
And many more things. If you can get a new player in his place for half of that salary, you can spend 50+m on him and after 5 years both scenarios will even out.Which is fair enough cause at the end of the day Salaries are a byproduct of how much you can get elsewhere.
Ole wants to keep Pogba and that's all that really mattersAnd many more things. If you can get a new player in his place for half of that salary, you can spend 50+m on him and after 5 years both scenarios will even out.
From business point of view it makes more sense to split the payment for 5 years, but you also need to consider Pogba will be 34 at the end of his contract.
Other aspect is other players will be tempted to try the same strategy (running down the contract). It's within their rights, but it makes planning difficult and will break wage structure in the club very soon.
All things considered we have to be very careful if we want to go that path. It shouldn't be ONLY about Pogba.
HahahahaCan I just shock you? I like Neil Custis. Despite what I said earlier.
Ok, Alan.Can I just shock you? I like Neil Custis. Despite what I said earlier.
Not at all cost I believe (if that means giving him astronomical wages), and to bo honest I doubt manager alone makes those decisions.Ole wants to keep Pogba and that's all that really matters
There is nothing yet to say Pogba is asking for a ridiculous amount.Not at all cost I believe (if that means giving him astronomical wages), and to bo honest I doubt manager alone makes those decisions.
It's not about asking for ridiculous wages, but about who offers him more (like you mentioned in original post I referred to). I'd imagine we won't match PSG in that regard.There is nothing yet to say Pogba is asking for a ridiculous amount.
The only report of a rejected contract was clearly wrong as no one else ever reported it and it was by a unreliable journalist.
Wenger predicted this whole marketplace a long time ago, and it seems to be coming to fruition as a whole, accelerated because of the pandemic. I don’t think it’s a case of incentivising, rather, it’s an inevitability if players renewal demands aren’t met during the negotiating phase.Doesn't that just incentivize players to run down their contracts and demand huge fees? What if Rashford / Greenwood decide not to extend until their final year and demand 400k+ each?