Tom Van Persie
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Yeah I can see him making the bench next week.He's back now so hopefully available for Wolves at least on the bench with Mason up front.
Yeah I can see him making the bench next week.He's back now so hopefully available for Wolves at least on the bench with Mason up front.
It's a bit funny, but mostly sad, how shit our fanbase has become.You have to laugh otherwise you'd cry. People slate Sounness and rightfully so but some of the passun merchants on here make him sound reasonable and unbiased.
If we keep playing like we did against Southampton, we're in for a disaster of a seasonSouthampton (0.62) 1-1 (2.15) Man Utd
It is a bit of a freak result.
If we keep doing this rest of the season, we will be fine.
God i hope soAm I the only one who thought that Fred had a really good game ?
Fantastic first half, dreadful second half. Lacked urgency!
French Pogba sticking around which is beautiful to watch.
Martial, Sancho and Fred all suspect - not sure what the point of Scott. Matic is done IMO.
hence the no trophies….haven’t got the required consistency yet in this teamOne of those days, really. We have them.
It’s called a clearance. Better to give the ball away deep in opposition territory than in your own box.Well I’m not sure belting the ball up the pitch is the answer.
Hard to believe that's the final XG after we gifted them a few chances in the last 20 mins.Southampton (0.62) 1-1 (2.15) Man Utd
It is a bit of a freak result.
If we keep doing this rest of the season, we will be fine.
If Martial and Matic continue to get games, that's a huge indictment on Ole. Can you imagine SAF tolerating that first half from Martial?Before everyone loses their shit (too late), lets see what we're like with Varane and Sancho both starting with Cavani upfront. If we're still struggling then i'll start to be concerned. What is very clear and has been for about 12 to 24 months is that we're still 1 midfielder short. Not getting one this window is borderline ridiculous given our lack of options.
Martial needs to have a long hard look at himself because his lack of effort in games in comparison to James and Greenwood is stark. No excuses for him. That was a very poor performance today.
Being realistic, what's the difference between first half Martial and second half Greenwood up top? Pretty much feck all.If Martial and Matic continue to get games, that's a huge indictment on Ole. Can you imagine SAF tolerating that first half from Martial?
Difference is 2nd half particularly in last 25 mins we couldn't keep the ball, so the attack couldn't get involved in the game.Being realistic, what's the difference between first half Martial and second half Greenwood up top? Pretty much feck all.
Don't be daft, we had the same on and off periods with the ball in the first half and we could barely get Greenwood or Martial involved. Difference is that one player gets the blame for it.Difference is 2nd half particularly in last 25 mins we couldn't keep the ball, so the attack couldn't get involved in the game.
Also of course Greenwood showed so much movement and did also get the goal.
Avoid defeat in our next game and then a new unbeaten away record belongs to us. It would be abnormal not to care about creating a massive piece of league history.Ole was more worried about protecting the away record than getting a win.
Seriously, what kind of shit was that. Such a cowardly approach.
Not here to trade insults. Take care.Don't be daft, we had the same on and off periods with the ball in the first half and we could barely get Greenwood or Martial involved. Difference is that one player gets the blame for it.
There were barely any differences, whatsoever, between Greenwood and Martial up top against Southampton, and that was with and without Sancho on the pitch.
The problem wasn't up front.
We shall see. I dont see without us signing a CM. Hopefully you are right.Avoid defeat in our next game and then a new unbeaten away record belongs to us. It would be abnormal not to care about creating a massive piece of league history.
I expected us to win today obviously, but we could easily have lost with that glorious chance they missed near the end.
A point is not a terrible result playing away here.
We're gonna be in a title race this season for sure.
Easy exit. Enjoy.Not here to trade insults. Take care.
Yep. Exactly the way I saw it. Or should I have said sawl it.A performance where we simply went through the motions.
Absolutely no ambition to win the game in the last 15 minutes.
Fecking hell .Shit result with a shit lineup from the shitty 19-21 era.
Here's the thing though: football didn't pop into existence two weeks ago. Football's been here for a while, Ole's been here for a while, these very same problems have been here for a while.It's been two games.
Bloody hell
I’d imagine he would have torn into his midfield like he did to Carrick and Scholes about not getting the ball in to the forwards in good positions and if they couldn’t he’ll get people who can.If Martial and Matic continue to get games, that's a huge indictment on Ole. Can you imagine SAF tolerating that first half from Martial?
And so will Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool.Avoid defeat in our next game and then a new unbeaten away record belongs to us. It would be abnormal not to care about creating a massive piece of league history.
I expected us to win today obviously, but we could easily have lost with that glorious chance they missed near the end.
A point is not a terrible result playing away here.
We're gonna be in a title race this season for sure.
ExactlyIf Martial and Matic continue to get games, that's a huge indictment on Ole. Can you imagine SAF tolerating that first half from Martial?
Not so sure. Given the way the other teams are shaping up, I think the winning team in the league will need 90 points this season, maybe more. Which means the winning team will be able to drop no more than 24 points all season. Unless we have an incredible run in head to heads against the other big teams, we’re really going to have to maximise our points against mid and lower table teams. We can probably afford 7 or 8 games where we drop points against those teams all season, home and away. So certainly we can drop points, but the margins are very thin.Overall, we have to accept it will be harder to pick up points on the road this year, due to fans being back in the stadium. Away draws are probably not going to cost us a league title, even if they can be frustrating.
Yeah, agreedHere's the thing though: football didn't pop into existence two weeks ago. Football's been here for a while, Ole's been here for a while, these very same problems have been here for a while.
So it's not "it's been two games", it's "it's been three years of this same shit and it just doesn't look like these problems have gone anywhere".
I don't think anyone really gives a shit about a record like that. It's hardly a massive piece of history given most fans couldn't tell you who owns the record currently.Avoid defeat in our next game and then a new unbeaten away record belongs to us. It would be abnormal not to care about creating a massive piece of league history.
That makes sense, thanks.McTominay was carrying an injury. Think he was a doubt for the Leeds game but actually played.
Matic isn’t struggling to beat the press because he doesn’t have ‘technical ability’. He has plenty of that, as he’s demonstrated throughout his career. Christ, he has more of that than McTominay and Fred put together. Matic struggles to beat the press because his legs are working about two seconds behind his brain. That’s age, right there.Exactly
Matic starting today was just plain bizarre we needed some technical ability in the midfield to help us beat the press. Either pogba or dvb could have provided. I also cant get my head around the patience shown to martial, when he his performances have consistently been way below the required standard over the last year. Different position but this contrasts with the lack of opportunities offered to dvb
Its so glaringly obvious the midfield needs strengthening that its concerning if ole cant see this. We should be selling James and Lingard to fund this. Both decent players but offer very little beyond what our young players can
Not sure it was that. We just couldn’t get a grip of things. Saints were on us. They did well.A performance where we simply went through the motions.
Absolutely no ambition to win the game in the last 15 minutes.
Yes, today was frustrating, but fairly standard early season normal, if we get to the other side of the international break and we're still like this then I'll be worried, but I doubt we will be.The players clearly aren’t fit enough to last 90 minutes yet and likely got through the Leeds game on adrenaline and knowing they’d have no choice but to run a lot. They’ll be flying soon enough.
There's a lot of top class players I wouldn't want at United. I was glad to see him go. Anything he done in Italy or does at Chelsea now won't change my mind.Oh man. The delusion that Lukaku is not top class. The difference is Conte, a world class coach got the best out of him. Ole is a United hero who Let's face it is not a top class coach.
Lingard is still getting games for us..If Martial and Matic continue to get games, that's a huge indictment on Ole. Can you imagine SAF tolerating that first half from Martial?
Well, one can always find excuses like tired after the break, if we screw up things after the international break.Yes, today was frustrating, but fairly standard early season normal, if we get to the other side of the international break and we're still like this then I'll be worried, but I doubt we will be.
Craig Pawson