I’d say that United is more like the Lakers before Lebron went there. Recent history of mediocrity but still undoubtedly the flagship football club in England
Romelu Lukaku | Chelsea
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Hernandez??
The last time he scored vs Arsenal was a penalty for Everton at the end of the 2016-17 season.
5 games for us - 0 goals
5 games for us - 0 goals
Delighted for him.
Fergie signed him for peanuts as a super sub. He finally got the chance after everyone around him got old.
Unsure why he's being so strongly disregarded playing under Tuchel compared to Ole / Mourinho will make a world of difference. Chelsea play a good brand of football which is the identity of the team, Lukaku will influence the end of the phases of play which the midfield / full backs contribute to.
It's a different expectation compared to a United or City where the striker is anticipated to drop into play and help aid transitions. The fact United have had such a poor midfield during his tenure here is also a strong reflection on the difference between Chelsea now and the seasons he was in red.
It's a different expectation compared to a United or City where the striker is anticipated to drop into play and help aid transitions. The fact United have had such a poor midfield during his tenure here is also a strong reflection on the difference between Chelsea now and the seasons he was in red.
He wouldn't have gotten roasted if he had already scored and we won the game. It wasn't even a bad header.
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The problem is we have not replaced Lukaku with someone better. Martial is not better. Rashford is not better. Greenwood is not better. And Cavani cannot play all games, so at the present moment he is not better than Lukaku. We often miss a real striker.
I agree Martial is not better but Rashford is and Greenwood sure as hell will be.
I can’t see either Rashford or Greenwood bullying a defense they way Lukaku does. It is a long season and we will see. I think if Rashford or Greenwood could be a dominate number nine, Cavani would not be necessary. I do think Greenwood could become special given opportunities to grow.
Just imagine the money which Chelsea would save if they have their youth more chances. Lukaku, Kdb and Salah to name a few in recent history and im sure there must be others too.
Aside from Pogba and Pique. Do we have many other recent examples ourselves?
Aside from Pogba and Pique. Do we have many other recent examples ourselves?
None of the players you just named are Chelsea Academy players. Chelsea currently has more starting Academy starters than most teams. The players you did name all had Jose sending them away. I’m sure you have had experience with Mou wrecking players.
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Cavani is not better either. I know we love his attitude and movement but we have to be honest about him. Right now Lukaku is the better striker.
The issue with Lukaku is that we got the worst version of him and Chelsea are getting the best. Conte did a brilliant job with him. And of course we haven't upgraded in that position as you mention.
That’s because Jose tried to use him as our Drogba by looking at him to hold up the ball and hold off defenders yet it’s the opposite he is not great with the back to goal but lethal facing it
He was pretty average himself as well. Has improved greatly
I don't know why is it so hard for some posters here to understand that the Lukaku of the last 2 years under Conte has nothing to do with the Lukaku who left United. He vastly improved his overall game.
He has improved but overall he always was great. He has proven everywhere and internationally. The time he spend here looks like a one off not the norm.
He was. But Conte improved his qualities a lot.
Yeah but Conte does that doesn’t he. Such a excellent coach
Agree, he is excellent regarding that.
Even though they fell out in the end he did the exact same thing with Diego Costa at Chelsea.
Yes, I also hope that Greenwood will be. In the future. But right now he isn't.
And I don't think that Rashford is better than Lukaku.
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Captivating line of argument, this one.
Saw on Sunday exactly what i expect of him. With services he would score a ton of goals but still the same issues with sorting out his feet in tight spaces. I don't think it matters for Chelsea as they have fullbacks who keep delivering balls into the box and he can get onto the score sheet without breaking a sweat.
The man is more deluded than the collective at RAWK. He just feels it… so it must be gospel. How dare they argue otherwise, may god strike them down twice!
Indeed. Not all debate is supported by fact and tangible metrics. I’m going with feel on this one; sometimes it’s as good as an argument gets…
Do you always behave so strangely on these internet forums you refer to?The man is more deluded than the collective at RAWK. He just feels it… so it must be gospel. How dare they argue otherwise, may god strike them down twice!
Depends how Im “feeling”… cant explain it by tangible metrics… its just as good as an explanation gets
Unfortunately not, no
May be demanding nature of conte was the reason Costa and conte fell apart. I will be really unhappy if conte come back to pl. That man knew how to win the league and his record is one of the best if not best in terms of league campaigns.
Big test for him and Chelsea when they play liverpool next.
That's not the case anymore. His hold up play has improved a lot now.
I have no idea either tbh. It's like it's wishful thinking in order to soften the ball of having sold him. Lukaku is a better player overall, it's as simple as that
This is just not true at all.
The only thing he's improved is his fitness and got in shape. He had good moments for United, he showed what he can do - but he couldn't keep it up across a full match and his heavy frame made his touch sloppy.
He looks like a completely different man against arsenal than the one that left us.
I am fairly confident we will win the game may be 70-30 in favour of us. We can negate all the pluses of liverpool and impose our game.Hopefully I don't want to hear vvd not at his best excuse when Lukaku score against them.
The moment Lukaku left United, shit already started to change, noise about change of diet, Conte improving him overall, due diet trimming fat, scoring goals wasnt that huge of an issue but he is still a concrete wall when it comes to playing football, just we wont notice that much now due him being improved in other areas.
He will add an extra 25 goals a season to Chelsea.
No, he improved much more playing outside the area. A lot really.
I'll finish the argument for him.
Lukaku envisioned leaving this club after he got criticized following the Real Madrid Super Cup defeat.
I get what @Kag is saying and I agree with him. He was never fit enough to be the striker here.