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Yes, easily. I'm sure most bog standard premiership players would be let alone someone genuinely world class.
Yes!Conference league Varane!
Conference league Varane!
Conference league Varane!
I actually low-key think Ronaldo would make a great defender at most levels except the very top. His heading ability, awareness of space, speed, and mentality would make him very hard to play against.Would Messi be a world class defender in the conference? I’m going to say no but he’d be able to get forward and wreck the place on a regular basis
Would ronaldo? No but he’d score a load of headers from set pieces and he’d also get forward and wreck the gaff
Conference? Mate I think he could do a job up front in the Prem. He certainly isn’t a defender that’s for damn sure.[Irrelevant point] would be the best CF in the history of the conference, maybe even League 1 and 2.
Pray France don't win the next WC or you're going to see it, tooConference league Varane!
Conference league Varane!
Conference league Varane!
On the other hand:I actually low-key think Ronaldo would make a great defender at most levels except the very top. His heading ability, awareness of space, speed, and mentality would make him very hard to play against.
Exactly. These guys fitness levels are on different level.Any conference team with a world class player in it is scoring 10 goals per game. Feel like people are getting a bit too hung up on the whole defender/attacker...
Are you getting mixed up here with The Championship? The Conference is the 5th tier and barely professional. Any Premier League regular would instantly be the best player in that league in any position, let alone a world class player.Would Gabriel Jesus or Chicarito be a great CB in the conference? Obviously not for fecks sake.
Huge underrating of the level of the conference here.
Let’s go WC, would Aguero? No.
Completely depends on the player.
No, the conference is actually a very good level of football.Are you getting mixed up here with The Championship? The Conference is the 5th tier and barely professional. Any Premier League regular would instantly be the best player in that league in any position, let alone a world class player.
Van Buyten ended being the top scorer once for Marseille with 13-14 goals as a CBVan Buyten could still run rings around amateurs, nevermind an actual world class player.
I thought the Conference was a professional league in Europe? Not nitpicking, just trying to understand if everyone's talking about the same thing. It's the old name for ther 5th tier of English football, now called the National League. Was once mostly semi-pro but all the teams are now pretty much full time professional.To answer the OP, yes, 1000% without a doubt. I've seen guys who play in African leagues (which is far from the Europe level of pro football) completely destroy conference level football because the training they received made them seem like they were playing on fast-forward or the others were playing on slow motions.
There are so many different levels to this shit
Fabio Grosso went through the youth system of Renato Curi Angolana, an Eccellenza (italian 5th tier) club from a small town near Perugia.I think many players would meet the criteria. The more interesting question is how many players which started out in the conference actually went on to play at the highest level and win the biggest honours. I can think of Vardy and Smalling.
Shrewsbury were at that level when Joe Hart made his debut for them.I think many players would meet the criteria. The more interesting question is how many players which started out in the conference actually went on to play at the highest level and win the biggest honours. I can think of Vardy and Smalling.
Yes and yesWould Varane be top scorer in the conference if he had to stay in the opponents half all game? Would his team win the league?
It states world class, not Prem level. I'd say a prime Zlatan/Benzema/Suarez/Ronaldo/Messi etc would score an absolute filth of goals before they got done by a nasty challenge. And a Ramos/Godin/Chiellini etc would absolutely dominate at set pieces and be a huge difference maker for their whole team.I'm going to say no.
We get to see the difference between PL players and non-league quite regularly in the FA Cup. The gap is not so wide that it is a guarantee for me.
The question was how good would the likes of Zlatan/Benzema/Suarez/Ronaldo/Messi be at defending and stopping the other teams from scoring, not how many goals they'd score.It states world class, not Prem level. I'd say a prime Zlatan/Benzema/Suarez/Ronaldo/Messi etc would score an absolute filth of goals before they got done by a nasty challenge. And a Ramos/Godin/Chiellini etc would absolutely dominate at set pieces and be a huge difference maker for their whole team.
Of course a world class player would be head and shoulders above low level players.
A tougher question is would a world class manager show the best display at a low level.
Ha. My badThe question was how good would the likes of Zlatan/Benzema/Suarez/Ronaldo/Messi be at defending and stopping the other teams from scoring, not how many goals they'd score.
I'm not too convinced they'd all be great. Zlatan sure, as he's dominant in the air and lower league football is typically physical with lots of high balls. We saw how he was useful at defeding corners in his time at Old Trafford. Some of the others I don't know.
Yeah but we are talking about Messi playing as a defender. Of course he would still be class on the ball but that’s not really what you need as a defender in the conference. And he’s also probably the best player of all time so we can’t use him as a barometer.It states world class, not Prem level. I'd say a prime Zlatan/Benzema/Suarez/Ronaldo/Messi etc would score an absolute filth of goals before they got done by a nasty challenge. And a Ramos/Godin/Chiellini etc would absolutely dominate at set pieces and be a huge difference maker for their whole team.
Of course a world class player would be head and shoulders above low level players.
A tougher question is would a world class manager show the best display at a low level.
Yeah, forget that idiot post of mine, didn't actually read the OP. And yes, players aren't shite in the conference, I've been to quite a few games at most levels.Yeah but we are talking about Messi playing as a defender. Of course he would still be class on the ball but that’s not really what you need as a defender in the conference. And he’s also probably the best player of all time so we can’t use him as a barometer.
We’ve seen world class prem strikers up against conference defenders and they are not regularly banging in 5 goals each time. To think a WC defender would be doing so as a striker is a bit fanciful for me.
Not saying it’s impossible, but people are talking as if conference players are like amateurs now the park.
Aye. A lot of the responses are about the enormous gulf between elite professional and pub team level, which is probably 5 or 6 times the size of the gap between thef Premier League and the Conference. As you say, we've seen plenty of sticky and tight cup ties between Premier League teams and Conference sides. Man City were losing until the 81st minute against a League Two side last year, which is only a marginally higher standard than the division below. The idea that a single world-class player - operating in a different position - is going to be singularly responsible for thrashing teams every week - without his elite support cast - is not really reflected in the games that have taken place.Yeah but we are talking about Messi playing as a defender. Of course he would still be class on the ball but that’s not really what you need as a defender in the conference. And he’s also probably the best player of all time so we can’t use him as a barometer.
We’ve seen world class prem strikers up against conference defenders and they are not regularly banging in 5 goals each time. To think a WC defender would be doing so as a striker is a bit fanciful for me.
Not saying it’s impossible, but people are talking as if conference players are like amateurs now the park.
How did you find him as a coach? Great example though because, though not a defender, he was world classEasily yes!
I bet if you put Messi at left back in any league he's the best left back in the world.
Henrik Larsson at 41 used to coach me in Sweden. This was in the 2nd tier (Swedish version of championship). Sometimes he would practice with us and he was easily the best player. He could've played any position and been the best player in the league. Assuming he stays injury free that is. He was just so much faster in his mind and technically took less touches, better movement etc. which reduced issues with him not being fast enough. You just couldn't get close to him.
The likes of Ronaldo, Ramos, Messi, Lewandowski can figure it out at any level or position if they want to.