How could you possibly be content with this?

amolbhatia50k

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Nothing you've posted points towards 'eventually' in 18 months you'll crying for poch's head and 18 months after that the next manager.
'logic'
You'll be crying about Ole getting sacked in 2030 despite him continuing to prove that he isn't good enough to be a top manager.

I don't believe we'll win a league title for another 5 years no matter what we do. But it's important to have people in charge and on the pitch who are good enough, so that you have the potential to eventually get there. Some players aren't, and the manager definitely isn't.
 

beck7

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I am thinking as Bruno- if a club with world class ambitions come to get me, would I stay?

Personally I wouldn't because my manager says we have improved to have gotten close to qualifying to the knock out stage of the champions league.
 

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After Tuesday nights performance I stayed away from the forum for my own sanity and hoped on returning there would be some semblance of realisation that we are no where near as good as recent lucky wins against what can be best described as average teams and if you are happy to accept such, there in lies the problem.

The squad as a whole is full of only just above average players and highlights the recruiting problems over a number of years of buying players for all the wrong reasons, whether this be Tia Maria who from the start never wanted to be here,Sanchez where it was clear he was money mercenary. Defenders who either cant defend or provide any quality going forward . Ageing players Schweinsteiger, Matic, Blanc, who in their pomp were all excellent players but what was not needed at the time.

The squad depth is and has been for a number of years full of players of players who are never going to get anywhere near a first team run out and are sat languishing on expensive contracts.

Players kept for too long no matter what there previous worth was to the club, in this I include the likes of Rooney, Mata, Valencia, Lingard, Rojo to name but few

Until this club takes a good hard look at itself and admits the problems and sets out 4-5 year plan with the cahoonas to implement such, be outspoken unforgiving and ruthless even if this means peeing some squad members off.

If not unfortunately this malaise of doing all right and finishing in the top 4-6 will continue.

If I could start with a summer clear-out from the first team

DDG needs to leave, undoubtedly a very good keeper but recent years has shown signs of weakness, clearly and understandably has shown a desire to return to Spain - Replacement Henderson
Pogba- Not sure what his position is and what he brings to the team despite the odd flash of inspiration, is too much of liability and again I think he wants to go
Martial- As much as I would have loved to see him develop I cant see it happening and doesn't seem happy and with the likes of Rashford and Greenwood all vying for the No 9 spot 3 into 1 don't go

The above 3 would bring in realistically approx £150 million.

players not quite good enough or coming to an end , Mata, Matic (Free Transfers) frees up wages costs. Lingard no disrespect and is a tryer and always given his best but not up to scratch and may be able to get a few million for him rather than going on a free in a couple of years plus saving in wages. Dalot never going to make it and may recoup a few million and Bailly similarly. James simply not good enough if you have any real aspirations of competing at the top level .

The list of the deadwood- too many to mention, sitting on their backsides need to be moved on and in no uncertain terms told to leave and find somewhere else to play and if they refuse name them and pay up their contracts - Short term detrimental to finances but as it stands we going to end up paying them anyway plus all the other incidental expenses.

From these sales alone would net £175-£200 million and free up a lot of wages, so what is needed

A centre back who is quick and mobile, a top quality central midfielder playing the No 6 position, with the likes of Fred and Mctominy as back up and the perennial debate a right sided player of some note .

Not the easiest shopping list admittedly but we would have a budget of £175-200 Million to start with
We'll be lucky to get 100 million from selling Pogba, De Gea and Martial, let alone the 150 you think we'll be able to get.
 

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Moyes had the current champions. And served up possibly the worst title defence in history in the most unforgivable manner. feck him.
When ole took over the team was on its arse and Jose was in full sabotage mode. To use finishing 2nd the season before as a stick to beat ole with is frankly ridiculous. How many points did he finish behind city that year despite spending a fortune?
Lampard finished on the same points last season and spent a fortune on rebuilding in the summer and isn't that far ahead now, but nobodys shitting on him. Probably because we're not even half way through the season yet.
So, we can sack ole now and replace him with poch and all the same smacked arses will be spamming the same threads with the same bullshit in 18 months time.
Or we can see where ole takes us this season.
I'm for waiting.
agreed this whole thing is just like ground hog day, i might have felt like passionately arguing it once upon a time but don't even feel arsed now.
 

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Little bit surprised this is empty given all the shit some posters were quick to give me a few days ago. Must be content with yet another dreadful performance where our opposition actually battered us AND didn't choke like West Ham or Brighton did. I worry for this team when our luck completely runs out. Sad to see us fall so low. But hey, I should go support someone else.
Why did you never bump this thread again after this?
 

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Reading the posts from early to mid December, man that was grim. It's something much worse than 'knee jerk'. The level of hysterics and toxicity is unbelievable.
 

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Listen! I don't expect us to win titles this season. We are far from it. But being in the mix at the end of the season is progress for me. I am all for Ole and would back him until he decides to quit.
I stopped watching football under LVG and Mourinho was no better either.
At least this guy has made me feel fall in love with united again.
 

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We will go nowhere with Ole here. Top 4, waves of form. That’s it.

too safe against the big teams. Can’t breakdown the cannon fodder. Forgets he has subs to use. A joke of a manager.
 

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Because some of us want United to be better? No, I feel sad for you. The fact that you want United to be shit just so that you can have your precious manager in charge. Holy feck.
Righto, seems to me you've been wanting us to be worse so you can rub one out in this thread.
Being disappointed with a performance is one thing, revelling in it is quite another.
 

Yagami

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So everyone’s opinion is equally valid.

good stance that’ll help you in life that
About football? On a football forum filled with standard fans? Of course not! How could anyone think a football fans opinion is as valid as another football fans opinion. About football. This isn't politics; this is important stuff.
 

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About football? On a football forum filled with standard fans? Of course not! How could anyone think a football fans opinion is as valid as another football fans opinion. About football. This isn't politics; this is important stuff.
:lol:
Alright mate. You’re right this is a sound thread by a completely normal footy fan.
 

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‘He needs another year at least’

‘We need a world class DM & the board need to buy another RB after spending £50mil on one recently’

‘It’s not his fault, if you go back & look at the squad Ron Atkinson left he’s had to rebuild this place from the ground up’
 

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Woohoo, you got to bump your own miserable corner of the internet.
I'm so happy for you.
Not as much joy as you take from performances such as todays.

You make me laugh to be honest. Coming out calling people you don't know miserable - stop reflecting your pathetic life on to mine.
 

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It’s times like this when I wish we had a ruthless owner like Abramowich
 

Ludens the Red

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‘He needs another year at least’

‘We need a world class DM & the board need to buy another RB after spending £50mil on one recently’

‘It’s not his fault, if you go back & look at the squad Ron Atkinson left he’s had to rebuild this place from the ground up’
:lol:
 

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I think it's absolutely ludicrous people expect Ole to compete for titles when he wasn't allowed to spend £100m on Rice. In addition to the £380m or so he's already had to spend.
 

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With McFred in the middle were going to get slaughtered by any half decent side.