Not hugely arsed either way mate. Just my team aint it.
Spurs fans booed during/after 0-3 defeat. United fans silent after 0-5 defeat.
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Not hugely arsed either way mate. Just my team aint it.
Either go to the game and boo yourself or maybe, just maybe don’t complain about those who go to the games?
If that's what he means I'm in agreement with you.
Right got it, without overseas supporters we'd be Newcastle
To be honest I was at Liverpool and most fans were dejected. Although I will definitely say there is a fear of calling out the manager and absolutely a fear of booing because others will look down on you.
And you were telling me I embarass myself
. Did United have a huge fanbase worldwide then, yes or no?Top red is a easy cop out. People who don't/can't attend games may be frustrated and understandably so but having a go at people who attend games is not the answer.
I would stare at you menacingly from tier two, correct.
Yes we did but to suggest without that fanbase Fergie (or any of the other managers) would have been so massively exposed without the financial support to the point of relegation is just fecking stupidAnd you were telling me I embarass myself
United forum cries about our match going fans not being fickle moaning cnuts / cry about Spurs appointing a manager even though it hasn’t even happened yet
The fan base splitting into sections e.g. match going fans, non match going fans based in UK, Overseas fans etc isn't healthy. What we really need is lose the class system that some believe in, Unite and speak with one voice. But unfortunately we have a lot of people with their own agendas and egos.
Just as an aside, the booing at OT was massively overplayed - more like an annoyed grumble that lasted for about 5 seconds. Nothing like what we saw at Spurs where it was sustained and much, much louder.
As usual though the press are desperate to jump on it and make a story of it, because it’s United.
As usual though the press are desperate to jump on it and make a story of it, because it’s United.
People have different opinions but having a go at those opinions rather than debating is not the answer.
They call themselves top red but four years without a trophy, no direction and all's fair and well so far we support the manager and sing his songs as we continue failing. Top reds my a#£.
Imagine blaming our fantastic support for poor performances. This place is toxic as feck.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion about the team, Ole, the Glazers but the op is basically criticising match going fans for not booing enough to (maybe) help get the manager sacked because the op wants that.
I'll cheer regardless of the result (but be miserable if we lose) and it's nothing to do with who's a better fan, it's my choice.
I'm not talking about opinions on who the manager should be, how we're playing, how the clubs run etc etc. I'm talking about people dismissing other people because they're from Australia.
A match going fan is privileged that they're able to go, but do I think they have a right to tell some one they're not real fans because they live away from Manchester and can't go?
The problem I have is the class system that seems to exist in our support. We should treat everyone with respect not look down your nose because of xyz
There was a long debate at the start of Jose's full season there when they started off really well about how barely any United players would get into their team, this forum is filled with this kind of goldfish memory and a few wins make everyone great, a few losses make everyone Sunday League. Spurs have a very good squad, it's not Top 4 but it's not far off.
I really hope we lose badly against Atalanta, just to give a wakeup call to this board. They are making a huge mistake. I dont care if that makes me less of a top red. The bigger picture matters here.
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Nope just makes you a proper spanner.
I agree, it's not helpful to criticize the match going supporters.
No they don't have a right to tell someone they are not real fans if they can't go but at the opposite end, those fans shouldn't be saying the same thing to match going fans just because they don't boo enough.
Strange thread, you’re not allowed to say to someone overseas that if they want to boo they should go do it themselves, but overseas fans are allowed to sit on the caf and dictate what 70 odd thousand fans at the match should be doing.
We're not playing in the MLS.
Anarchy amongst the fans. It's all moving now. Next step anyone??
I agree with that
Hey man, this club would be run so much better if the match going fans, who spend their hard earned money at the stadium started booing Ole more often.
Horrendous post.
Cheers mate. I'll try harder next time.
At what point during the City game do you want us to turn toxic?
Sure, if being a spanner means you want to take the bandaid off rather than let the club rot, happy to be one.
Supporting an incompetent manager that's driving your club nowhere isn't what supporting your club is all about either though rather you're match going fan or not. If no player can be bigger than your club, no manager should be either.
Even SAF will tell you that.
There wasn't any United singing to be heard in the second half of the Liverpool game on my shitty stream so I don't trust the top reds here.
Hoping that your team gets battered will always be ridiculous, no matter what you think of the manager.
As it happens I did support this club when we got relegated, and almost all the matchgoing fans at the time carried on going, and carried on singing.Yes he is a better fan. It’s not a surprise for me that those who bring the location argument are the same die hard cultists. Logic doesn’t seem to be their strongest point. They don’t understand that without overseas fans they would support their team in the Championship.
We've changed in a lot of ways since then, and I doubt we'd become relegation fodder now, but I also doubt that matchgoing fans have changed at a fundamental level. We support the club - not the Glazers, not Ole, not the players. You're welcome to call it a cult if it helps you to understand our behaviour at times, but you also need to understand that most of us were born into it.
Genuinely is weird though. I have a friend who is a season ticket holder with others and normally has tickets for me and we sit in the Stretford end. The last two matches the tension has been crazy but no one will say anything and my friend literally whispers about Ole not being good enough because its looked down upon. It's a weird and fake atmosphere.
Not booing but wanting change aren't mutually exclusive
Top Reds have a MASSIVE hand in the position we've ended up in. And that INCLUDES match going fans.
They've got the lowest standards of our fanbase.
EDIT: I used to go to numerous matches during a season prior to 18. Completely lost it after how the match going fans backed Mourinho/Ole despite the obvious, completely lost it after how the board backed them beyond what should have been acceptable.
So no, I'm not an "internet Red".
They've got the lowest standards of our fanbase.
EDIT: I used to go to numerous matches during a season prior to 18. Completely lost it after how the match going fans backed Mourinho/Ole despite the obvious, completely lost it after how the board backed them beyond what should have been acceptable.
So no, I'm not an "internet Red".
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If you want to voice your discontent, go to Old Trafford and do it?
Or just clap mindlessly to prove what amazing fans they are...