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Roy Keane
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
They need to give the United job to Roy until the end of the season.
Sure, he won't win anything, as won't Ole, but at least the players won't be getting pats on the back and haribos on the coach after losing a game against our local rivals.
They'll very quickly see what tough love feels like
Every time sky puts up the stats about the distances we cover and the sprints we make, it is embarrassing...
Sure, he won't win anything, as won't Ole, but at least the players won't be getting pats on the back and haribos on the coach after losing a game against our local rivals.
They'll very quickly see what tough love feels like
Every time sky puts up the stats about the distances we cover and the sprints we make, it is embarrassing...
What? Keane was one of the best young footballers in the early 90s. Attracting interest from abroad - Serie A and La Liga (rumors about Madrid)
I mean how do you make it into the Team Of The Season while playing for a team that finished dead last?
If Keane's management style may be considered or anticipated as being somewhat abrasive then we appear to have tried the 'arm round the shoulder' approach under OGS. Results, however, are not what we may have hoped for.
On which basis, what good things about the recent performances of the likes of Maguire, Shaw, Pogba, etc do you feel any current or future manager might focus on? With a view to motivate and inspire so that performances improve and we start winning football matches again?
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Love Keano but he said McTominay is learning his trade. Absolute crap, he’s as bad as Fred but only gets torn to shreds every week.
Foreign players tend to be a easy target for certain pundits in situations like these, unfortunately.
Right after saying that he said they weren't good enough for United.
Give over. They were both great players, not just self confessed hardmen. Management wise they weren't great. But not many are. Yes they are employed by sky to do a job and they do it based off their views and standards.
Would you rather they had more guys like Micah Richards? Who've never won anything and offer nothing more than raucous laughter and a wierdly straight hairline across his forehead.
Yeah, Fergie was well known for tolerating average players buried amongst better players, he even made them captain on occasion too.
This is the hottest of hot takes.
Despite being surrounded by the best players of his generation, for most of his time at Utd, we were a lesser team when he wasn't playing.
Absolutely awesome player, easily in the conversation when it comes to the best CMs to play in the PL.
Great player but on Sky Sports to say stuff to be clipped on social media often on the players that are a easy target.
Yeah he was shit wasn't he, hasn't a clue about the game.
Tbh funniest shit I have ever read today. Did he forget Keane was the most expensive EPL player at that time (he was Pogba before Pogba) ? He was already monster in Forest. Blackburn would easily won the league in 94 if they signed him instead of us.
What a pathetic take on Keane just because you disagree him or don't rate him on Sky , and if you really believe that about Keane's playing career then you either never saw him play of have no clue about the game.
Some of ye act like spoilt children in here , Scholes , Neville or Keane say something you don't like , then they dead to you ,
You can say you disagree with them without thrashing them.
You're clueless.
He's not dim, he just has an extremely stubborn view of football. His attitude is the players are responsible for what happens. That attitude was why he was like a manager on the pitch but that attitude is also why he's a bad manager and pundit. His advice is limited to:
- Buy better players. If United lose, the players "aren't good enough".
- Shout at someone.
- Foul someone.
- Hit at a teammate. Like "throwing punches" at De Gea.
I agree with this bit. Keane is a rent-a-quote. He's entertaining but doesn't understand modern football or management which is why he's on Sky and not at an actual club.
Keane only does bollockings though. His approach is 100% bollockings. Eventually players get tired of being sworn out and want someone with coaching skills which rules out Keane.
Sky does this alot. They keep trying to get Carragher and Neville to argue on MNF and try to troll Keane into "HEATED DEBATES" to get clicks. It's boring once you notice it.
Boot Camp Keano for the rest of the season would put a rocket up these pampered players’ arses at the very least.
Fred is 28 and has played all of his career in midfield. McTomimay is 24 and played as a forward for most of his youth career.. I think that's what Keane was getting at.
He turns 25 next month, it's a bit ridiculous to descibe a player as still learning his trade at that age.
Fred played further forward for Shaktar. Never seems to be mentioned, but he was closer to Bruno than Matic when we purchased him. So neither are playing in positions which they are used to playing in. But McTominay is incapable of even showing for the ball properly which is absolutely basic stuff. So he should get much more stick than Fred.
Agreed. More ridiculous is a 'major' European club deciding to trust a central midfield place to a player only learning how to play there...at 25.
He's welcome to go out on loan somewhere to learn how to play in midfield. Given how much our squad cost and our aspirations (ha) it's an absolute joke that we're trying to get him to do it at United.
Agreed. These united old boys pundits wouldn't have the patience to let him learn his trade at this age if he was a foreign player brought in from abroad, it's british academy player bias.
It is obvious a lot of posters on here have never seen Keano play.....the man was world class FFS!
Would be shocked and saddened if you are not 10 years of age, incredibly thickand a City supporter
Can I just say vardy was at fleetwood town at 24/5 learning his trade, I’m not saying Scotty could become a midfield version of vardy, I’m just saying you can always learn your trade and improve at any age.
There are some clowns who think Keane was just a hard man. It’s utter nonsense but part of the fault for that is how Keane talks about himself and the game. Yesterday it was “when I was playing bad I’d smash someone”. He very rarely had a bad game so why come out with stuff like that?
Would love to see Keane come in as an assistant to a top class manager for the rest of the season. These players could do with a kick up the backside for the crap they are producing every week.
The Crystal Palace game would be interesting with Keane and Vieira on the sideline.
The Crystal Palace game would be interesting with Keane and Vieira on the sideline.
They've had plenty of kicks up the arse the last few weeks. They need a decent system and teammates they can trust.
I think having a manager with a tactical plan and, most importantly, the communication skills to deliver his tactical plan to the players is the most important thing.
The narrow minded and overly simplistic response to underperforming players is to open a can of whoop-ass, whereas the reason why these players are underperforming is that we lack systems in our play.
Keane is just as clueless as Ole when it comes to management in the modern game. In his interview with Neville recently all he had to say about being successful in management was getting 'a good group of lads' together. He thinks it's still the 90s same as Ole.
Keane saying he has ''more hope than belief in Ole'' was as close as he'll go to saying Ole Gunnar Solskjaer should be sacked.
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that and him saying "he might be best off out of there" was it
People on here dissing G Nev & Keane for not calling out Ole should see the pundits on MUTV, I ain't watched MUTV for a while (since they stopped having viewers phone-ins) but back when Mourinho, LVG & Moyes were dishing up rubbish, they'd say things like "bad day at the office, I'm sure they'll do better next game", or UTD player off-side by 4 yards (before VAR), "he was a bit unlucky with that off-side on another day the linesman might have not put his flag up" etc...
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Is he signing shirts there for some guy who's clearly just going to resell them on eBay? Looks like he's got a bag full of them
I would kill for a 25 year old Keane in our midfield.
Looks like it.
He pretty much said it without saying it. I wouldn’t throw my mate under the bus, but “better off out of it” is as clear as day.
no security around him, no mates, just out on his own and still has it in him to give it to a guy who stepped out of line and drops the “what have you had two pints?” Line. Amazing.
This has to be one of the dumbest things I've read on this forum, which says a lot considering I spend most of my time in the FPL and Crypto threads
Not sure I make out what the other guy was saying , I think he first said you are club legend but did he then call Keane a Prick, which brought the you have had a few pints response from Keane , am I picking that up right?