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We announced from outset we intended to go for interim manager. How then is going for an interim manager us “left scrambling”?
Old Raggers would be a fun and spicy choice.
Zidane is such a moody little bitch
He just knows what he wants in lifeZidane is such a moody little bitch
Quit the biggest club in the world twice on his own accord
Just think Poch' is benefitting from a lot of hype, and I, personally, am interested to see how he manages this PSG team. They have fabulous sqaud, decent fan base, located in a terrific city. He also has cash to spend.
And he wants to leave??
This concerns me, greatly. I think he feels he can manage the Premiership, and maybe out of his depth at PSG. I would like to see some guts from him, dig in and deliver something at PSG. Then leave.
The PSG fans like him too, he played there btw. I just need to be convinced of the of Pochettino today, not the one at Spurs a few years ago.
And we have time to consider matters, and we should take that time.
And he wants to leave??
This concerns me, greatly. I think he feels he can manage the Premiership, and maybe out of his depth at PSG. I would like to see some guts from him, dig in and deliver something at PSG. Then leave.
The PSG fans like him too, he played there btw. I just need to be convinced of the of Pochettino today, not the one at Spurs a few years ago.
And we have time to consider matters, and we should take that time.
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Just get an interim in until the end of the season then get Poch in. At least if he joins us in the Summer he will have won something by then. In the meantime, this squad is more than capable of top 4 and winning something even with a Carrick-shaped rocket up their arse. Someone like Valverde could nicely steady the ship and have things looking very different come the new year.
What he doesn't have at PSG is much control though. Obviously we don't give managers total control either but I think we give them a lot more than PSG.
Zidane is literally playing the role of that love interest that turned you down but will also actively sabotage you with your 'second pick'.
Just say yes to PSG, Zizou, so we can stop being shit, please.
Just say yes to PSG, Zizou, so we can stop being shit, please.
Mate that was a lot. But appreciate the response.
I think both are good managers. I’m more pro Ten Hag but at the same time I’m convinced he’s perfect as compared to a Poch who fits right in with what we have now.
Also it can’t be overlooked however you put it that he’s doing well in a league where he should be dominating. That’s abit different when coming into the Prem. Put it this way if Ten Hag replaced Pep and we had Poch, I’d be very confident we could finish above them.
The people who are hoping the Poch now move doesn't happen in hope of us pursuing Ten Hag in the summer are in for a rude awakening. It's quite clear that Poch is United's first target and if they can't get him now, they'll wait for him until the summer and get him then. This idea that United would just leave a target they've admired for years to pursuit the hottest commodity on the Caf at the time is hilarious to me.
Might as well get Ten Hag if we have to wait until the end of the season.
I think they will all try there best to make eachother look good. I think a loss to City today would work in our favour.
The way the leaks are happening, talks must be on going. If Poch request to leave PSG save money don’t they?
Zizou is a bit of a bald cnut isn't he..
Rangnick as interim, then position in the club, then Ten Hag in the summer. Perfect!
But.. he has a superb squad, a superb club, in a superb city, loads of cash, and it's a club that he is familier with?
And he isn't happy? And what control does he want that he doesn't have? He doesn't need anymore players ffs'... I don't understand some of these managers. Look at Moyes at West Ham.. that's a manager working with players.
As you stated, I doubt very much that he will have total control at Man Utd. The Club is simply too vast, and isn't structured that way. Not many of the really big sporting organisations (Football and otherwise) operate that way. Manager's have to acknowledge that, enjoy the benefits (because they do not do all this for free..) and compete and try and deliver.
I just sense it's all '...Poch with open arms, he's our guy, we always wanted him anyway...' yet I'm not quite convinced on what he will be able to do, in the Premiership, now.
Let him have another (full) season at PSG, and then let's assess things.
PSG's ego getting in the way essentially
Only United fans could turn him wanting to join us into a negative.
Go and listen to his comments about England on MNF a few years back. He absolutely loves the country. His family still live there.
Lots of managers have spoken out about their difficulties with PSG. Tuchel did exactly the same.
Other things with PSG:
- They are judged entirely on a few knockout games, which is evident from your own post as you're waiting for him to "deliver" in a season where he's dropped less points than we have in our last two games.
- They are forced to succeed with certain players playing. I'm pretty sure Poch couldn't bench any of that front three if he wanted to.
- Very limited say in transfers and squad make up - Leonardo his very difficult to work with and will impose his ideas on the manager. Forced out Thiago Silva against Tuchel's wishes
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The Pochettino stuff is basically just saying nothing had happened yet. Neither will it today.
So of course it devolves into a *ck swinging contest
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psg did exactly this with mbappe when they rejected £190m for him with 12 months on his contract. So this doesn’t surprise me
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psg did exactly this with mbappe when they rejected £190m for him with 12 months on his contract. So this doesn’t surprise me
We need to stick with Carrick, trust the process and keep the United DNA in place. He is already supported by an excellent coaching staff.
If we go with Rangnick I'm convinced that Murtaugh has decided that this is the transition to Ten Hag in the summer. 100%.
Sounds like Poch needs to push for a move. I also think PSG will regard Zidane as an upgrade on Poch so not sure why they wouldn't want to make the switch.
Because they adopt a similar footballing philosophy and way of playing?
Optics, they're as PR wary and aware as United are so they don't want to be looked at as a smaller club if they allow their manager to leave a ridiculously star studded squad with limitless resources to join another club midseason.
If ZZ has any reservations about joining them midseason, there's no other good way they'd be able to save face if Poch left for United
I do hope we're not tunnel visioned with just trying to get Poch. If he can't come immediately, then we should be scoping out other candidates for the summer too. I'd like Poch, but he's not that good for us to be throwing everything at him and him alone.
Bring Ragnick in now, and then talk to Ten Hag as well as Poch, and decide who's the best fit for us come the summer after some due diligence.
(Also please let it be Ten Hag).
Bring Ragnick in now, and then talk to Ten Hag as well as Poch, and decide who's the best fit for us come the summer after some due diligence.
(Also please let it be Ten Hag).
I don't think it matters to be honest, we'll just try again for Poch in the summer when he's sacked/allowed to leave. The board has a massive hard on for him. They'll wait.
If Poch cannot implement his style with PSG because he doesnt have the required players, wouldnt he run into the same problem at United? Would that mean we will play shit football until he can "rebuild" the squad again?
Yeah it all depends on Zidane. If he is willing to join them then they can easily spin it as they magnanimously agreed to let Poch go because they were getting an upgrade in Zidane.
Jeez people would have turned down Tuchel because of his PSG stint. Poch's is 11 points ahead in novemeber and on pace to walk the league. Would require a massive massive reach to use his ligue 1 stint against him. I actually just looked up PSG's position because I don't follow the league and the thread legit had me thinking he was 3rd or something.
If his team is performing this well while managing chemistry problems I'd like to see what good chemistry looks like under him. Must be an amazing ceiling potential. The negativity spin being put on their situation is something else.
If his team is performing this well while managing chemistry problems I'd like to see what good chemistry looks like under him. Must be an amazing ceiling potential. The negativity spin being put on their situation is something else.
I’d still take Conte. Unfortunately we’d have to pay some compo to Spurs now - we should have instead got him weeks ago but that’s who I’d go for. Would be very embarrassing for them actually.
I said the other day Zidane would feck us over again, looks like that’s the case.
Zidane for me. Most successful manager of the past 5 years in the entire world. We have players he has already won with, who trust him (Verane, Ronaldo). Pogba idolises him as do everyone else. imagine the atmosphere in the dressing room when a legend like Zidane walks in who all the players idolose and the fact they know he actually wins the biggest prizes as a manager as well. many of our players have never been lead by someone with his trophy haul so they will listen keenly. He is the smaller risk than someone like Brendan or Poch who are unproven at this level. That said he may not even want the job..............
I did think PSG were being a little too complicit in letting their manager go! The whole world makes sense again
Rangick is the brainfather of gegenpressing with both Klopp and Tuchel heavily inspired by his ideas. Since Ten Hag is a Pep/Cruyff disciple it would seem more fitting to get a coach who can start to prime the squad for those kinds of principles like Favre or Valverde to an extent. @Adnan is probably better than me at explaining this.
That is why United announced the appointment of an interim. Everyone knew they would not let their manager go mid season.
I wonder if this was all created by the media for clicks.
I wonder if this was all created by the media for clicks.
He was interested in joining back spurs too. Basically he is just desparate to leave psg.
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