Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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Ragnick is keeping the existing coaching staff for continuity, and is going to be assessing their coaching and managerial credentials. His methodology is to train all coaching staff to coach to the same systems, and methodology, while allowing fluidity in tactics. The ultimate goal is to create a conveyer belt of managerial talent that can step up to first team level, even the head coach job as required. Just as he has done at Redbull. It is the perfect personification of the overused word “philosophy”. Whereby, even if the tactics change, and managers change, the systems and methodology remain consistent.
I love it. This is exactly what our inexperienced bunch of coaches need. Carrick is the luckiest fecker alive to have seen the methods of Fergie, LvG, Mourinho and now Rangnick. That is an absolute education in so many different styles of football.
 

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A key bit from the Athletic article which hopefully points the direction we are going in:



The article goes on to explain that Ragnick will serve as an advisor and mentor to Murtough, once his management stint is up. Murtough spent eight hours with him back in August 2019 seeing the inner workings of Redbull, of which Ragnick built their football operations from the ground up from 2009. Taking RB Leipzig from the 4th to CL regulars.

Furthermore, Nick Cox - the academy head - is close to Murtough, and there is a natural synergy with Ragnick’s youth development strategy. Apparently, Ragnick is familiar, and holds in high regard, Andrew Meredith - United’s new (PhD) head of Analysis Operations - from his time with St. Pauli in Germany. To bolster that team, Ragnick will be bringing a second backroom team member, in addition to his assistant, a video analysis specialist. A position United had been looking to add anyway under the recommendation of Meredith. Furthermore, David Horrocks, United’s head of research and Development has spent time at Redbull providing detailed reports on their operations and is another familiar with, and in sync with, Ragnick.

Ragnick is keeping the existing coaching staff for continuity, and is going to be assessing their coaching and managerial credentials. His methodology is to train all coaching staff to coach to the same systems, and methodology, while allowing fluidity in tactics. The ultimate goal is to create a conveyer belt of managerial talent that can step up to first team level, even the head coach job as required. Just as he has done at Redbull. It is the perfect personification of the overused word “philosophy”. Whereby, even if the tactics change, and managers change, the systems and methodology remain consistent.

Within the club, and by Murtough himself, there is the recognition that maybe Murtough currently lacks the clout for a fully fledged sporting director role. The goal, by working closely with Ragnick for the next two and a half years, is that he will gain that. Ragnick has also already spoken with Fletcher about their shared football ideologies.

I have added one or two additional details from a German football podcast, but the bulk is from the Athletic. The final detail is that Ragnick will be heavily involved in player recruitment - specifically identification using a data driven approach - as well as in the appointment of a new permanent manager.
Thanks for sharing.

‘Encouraging to know we are bringing in a team and there are already some pieces in place.
 

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This is set up for an epic letdown! :lol:

I'm extremely excited about it though. It seems like the first time we've actually made a good, forward-looking decision. But how likely is it that he's going to drastically change this team the way it's been hyped up in the media? We have a packed schedule, a group of players who are bang out of form, and hardly any time on the training field.

Not sure
 

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Nothing like a no-nonsense older German to clear out the mess left behind by Ole. I'm excited about the appointment, but I'm not expecting any quick fixes.
Understandable that you are not expecting any quick fixes but I am optimistic that him coming in will give us some structure that has an impact. Hoping for similar to Wenger when he first came to Arsenal, Tuchel last year, Flick with Bayern...we shall see.
 

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This is set up for an epic letdown! :lol:

I'm extremely excited about it though. It seems like the first time we've actually made a good, forward-looking decision. But how likely is it that he's going to drastically change this team the way it's been hyped up in the media? We have a packed schedule, a group of players who are bang out of form, and hardly any time on the training field.

Not sure
The excitement is more about mid to long term than the next weeks or months. Without a preaseason there is little chance to see quick changes, even if the players understand instructions, athletically they are likely not prepared to sustain that style for long, it's similar to Klopp first season.
 

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The excitement is more about mid to long term than the next weeks or months. Without a preaseason there is little chance to see quick changes, even if the players understand instructions, athletically they are likely not prepared to sustain that style for long, it's similar to Klopp first season.
That's how I feel about it. I'm not expecting anything revolutionary in the next few weeks/months. I mean, it can't get any worse I suppose. If they just run more, I'd be over the moon!

But I do think there's going to be a few hasty judgments when things haven't changed THAT much over the next few weeks.
 

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All I'm expecting over the next few months is to be better organised, have a decent shape and pattern of play.
I'm really interested in where we go over the next two years, hopefully this will see us develop a style of play and a transfer policy which instead of just buying for the sake of it but buying players to best fit into a tactical set up
 
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This is set up for an epic letdown! :lol:

I'm extremely excited about it though. It seems like the first time we've actually made a good, forward-looking decision. But how likely is it that he's going to drastically change this team the way it's been hyped up in the media? We have a packed schedule, a group of players who are bang out of form, and hardly any time on the training field.

Not sure
I don't foresee a quick fix, but as things stand right now I would take an over the line top 4 finish if it meant we can see what's being built long term.

Any cup would be a bonus.
 

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Have to love the bitterness of Klopp that he is that obsessed he is talking about us again
Bitterness? He was asked questions about the appointment. Fairly apropos considering the history the two men share. Even then, he was rather complimentary in a roundabout way.
 

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This is set up for an epic letdown! :lol:

I'm extremely excited about it though. It seems like the first time we've actually made a good, forward-looking decision. But how likely is it that he's going to drastically change this team the way it's been hyped up in the media? We have a packed schedule, a group of players who are bang out of form, and hardly any time on the training field.

Not sure
The excitement is more about mid to long term than the next weeks or months. Without a preaseason there is little chance to see quick changes, even if the players understand instructions, athletically they are likely not prepared to sustain that style for long, it's similar to Klopp first season.
Yeah this. People need to temper their expectations. If United wanted a trophy winning interim then obviously they would have sought out Valverde for a few months. This exciting, and more well thought out plan, is focused on changing the club and it's culture. There's only Rangnick who could do an interim role and seemlessly move into a director style role allowing consistency and clarity which is what we've missed since SAF.


Bitterness? He was asked questions about the appointment. Fairly apropos considering the history the two men share. Even then, he was rather complimentary in a roundabout way.
Exactly. What Klopp said was very positive for United and the appointment.
 

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The Countdown Clock should have the TV show's theme music played as well. Ralf: "Ah, Phil Jones, what did you get?" Phil: "I got 7." Ralf: "7! So what is your word?" Phil: "Injured." Ralf: "But... there is no J in the puzzle."
 

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Might have been posted before but this gives a better idea of what to expect than the Statman Dave video, although its explained through Ralph Hassnhüttl's time at Leipzig, after Rangnick was elevated to DoF.

 

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need to make him DOF after we bring in a replacement. But he sounds prefer he can stay permanently if he wants to.
 

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I heard about Lars Kornetka as assistant. But I wonder if you have a stable job at Monaco as a sporting director why you would leave for a 6 months stint at united.
 

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The thing that pleases me most about this appointment is that we now have a short-to-medium term plan to improve the football side of the club, for the first time since Fergie retired.

Obviously there is no guarantee it will work, but a plan is a wondrous thing after all the knee-jerk decisions we have endured.
 
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I heard about Lars Kornetka as assistant. But I wonder if you have a stable job at Monaco as a sporting director why you would leave for a 6 months stint at united.
Kornetka isn't Monaco DoF; that's Paul Mitchell, who of course might be a person of interest for Man United.
 

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I heard about Lars Kornetka as assistant. But I wonder if you have a stable job at Monaco as a sporting director why you would leave for a 6 months stint at united.
He is currently working with Rangnick for the Lokomotive Moscow. He isn't working at Monaco and never have.
 

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Please be true!

need to make him DOF after we bring in a replacement. But he sounds prefer he can stay permanently if he wants to.
We already have a DOF, that's the person that brought him, Murtough.
 

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Just read a long article in The Athletic on him, and Rangnick sounds like a savior in human form. This guy sounds like exactly what has been missing at OT since Fergie left. We have been wondering since Ole was appointed how much influence a coach had on the players, and I think we are about to see that the correct answer is a massive amount of influence. The glue that binds the players together into a team has been absent this season, and Rangnick will instruct them on what to do and where to be, so we will finally play as a team and not a bunch of assclowns and individuals.

(Unless we get mauled by Chelsea, that is.)
 

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If the objective according to Rangnick is to win the ball back in 8 seconds and then have a shot on goal within 10 seconds, Ronaldo will sign up for the 2nd part even if he has to do the first.
That’s true. Ronaldo will be desperate to be getting more chances for us. Living on scraps so far
 

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I’ve only seen details around Rangnick’s pressing play so far. Anyone know what his preferred formation is?
 

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Seems like if he does extremely well in the coaching role for us he won’t mind going full-time.
 

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I think OGS did admirably after the mess he was left. He took us as far as he could…and after his time was served, it’s still difficult to understand what we, as a team, we’re trying to do at times.

I don’t have any doubt that after 3,4,5 weeks with RR, it’ll be abundantly clear to see patterns of play and his vision clearly evident. It might go horribly wrong at times but we’ll still be able to see a direction, a focus
 

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I love it. This is exactly what our inexperienced bunch of coaches need. Carrick is the luckiest fecker alive to have seen the methods of Fergie, LvG, Mourinho and now Rangnick. That is an absolute education in so many different styles of football.
With this much exposure to managerial greats will we see Carrick morhp into Superman(ager) and conduct the game from the sideline with nothing but a conductors staff and three cones on the pitch?
 

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The players are pissed? Oh boo hoo maybe now they'll have to work. Does anyone else find it incredibly annoying that the players feel entitled to be annoyed about this? They should be concentrating on their game not throwing tantrums because they weren't consulted about the new interim manager, the dressing room needs sorting big time, get rid of these personalities who think they are entitled everything
 

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I've got to admit, I can't fully recall how he set up Leipzig at his last managerial stint in detail.
In fact he did something rather unusual when he took over Leipzig in 2018. The season before under Hasenhüttl had been just a wild ride: They scored a lot but conceded almost as much and finished only 6th in the league. So when Rangnick took over he announced that he wanted to improve the defense foremost, and he did: They had the best defense in the league, conceded the least goals, and finished third. Important to mention: As a byproduct they also scored more than the year before. He simply knows what he's doing.
 

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The players are pissed? Oh boo hoo maybe now they'll have to work. Does anyone else find it incredibly annoying that the players feel entitled to be annoyed about this? They should be concentrating on their game not throwing tantrums because they weren't consulted about the new interim manager, the dressing room needs sorting big time, get rid of these personalities who think they are entitled everything
Ronaldo's agent would have been leaking like a sieve and spinning like a top. He knows what's coming...
 

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A key bit from the Athletic article which hopefully points the direction we are going in:



The article goes on to explain that Ragnick will serve as an advisor and mentor to Murtough, once his management stint is up. Murtough spent eight hours with him back in August 2019 seeing the inner workings of Redbull, of which Ragnick built their football operations from the ground up from 2009. Taking RB Leipzig from the 4th to CL regulars.

Furthermore, Nick Cox - the academy head - is close to Murtough, and there is a natural synergy with Ragnick’s youth development strategy. Apparently, Ragnick is familiar, and holds in high regard, Andrew Meredith - United’s new (PhD) head of Analysis Operations - from his time with St. Pauli in Germany. To bolster that team, Ragnick will be bringing a second backroom team member, in addition to his assistant, a video analysis specialist. A position United had been looking to add anyway under the recommendation of Meredith. Furthermore, David Horrocks, United’s head of research and Development has spent time at Redbull providing detailed reports on their operations and is another familiar with, and in sync with, Ragnick.

Ragnick is keeping the existing coaching staff for continuity, and is going to be assessing their coaching and managerial credentials. His methodology is to train all coaching staff to coach to the same systems, and methodology, while allowing fluidity in tactics. The ultimate goal is to create a conveyer belt of managerial talent that can step up to first team level, even the head coach job as required. Just as he has done at Redbull. It is the perfect personification of the overused word “philosophy”. Whereby, even if the tactics change, and managers change, the systems and methodology remain consistent.

Within the club, and by Murtough himself, there is the recognition that maybe Murtough currently lacks the clout for a fully fledged sporting director role. The goal, by working closely with Ragnick for the next two and a half years, is that he will gain that. Ragnick has also already spoken with Fletcher about their shared football ideologies.

I have added one or two additional details from a German football podcast, but the bulk is from the Athletic. The final detail is that Ragnick will be heavily involved in player recruitment - specifically identification using a data driven approach - as well as in the appointment of a new permanent manager.
Nice post. The bolded bit is the most exciting. They’ve picked up cheap players from fringe leagues for relative peanuts. Their methods can definitely spot a player ready to step up. I suppose the jump from that to United is pretty big but I’m excited to see what they can cook up. Even if we have a lot more first team squad players out on loan. It’s a good approach that can make us money to hopefully reinvest in the starting squad. Player recruitment should be a major way to make money and I feel like we’ve been missing a trick big time. We can make good money like that. We can also free up millions by slashing the bloated fringe wage and replacing them with cheaper younger unknown and hungrier players. It’s a win win. Far more interesting as a fan to watch someone like Szobozlai develop than pay Matic Lingard and Mata a fortune to do almost nothing.
 

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Reminds me of a motivation consultant my company brought in.

Anyone translate?
I can't follow it word for word until the 'hit back' part, but from what I'm hearing: 'We can talk all we want and the others can talk all they want - just do it'. Turns off the lights. 'Get out!' Turns the lights back on. 'I want to see outside what [...] is, I want there outside [...]. Hit back with everything you have, cause where we want to go, you get nothing for free! Nowhere! So now go outside and GET what you want!'

After the last few years of lord knows what going on in training, might be good to have a micromanager making sure the training sessions are just as important as matches
From what I've read, the intensity of your previous session is what you bring into your next. That's why it's important that your final training (and preferably as many as possible) is at full match intensity, so that this becomes your body's and mind's standard mode of operating, and that's how you start the game. Otherwise, you'll spend the first bit of the game gearing into the required intensity - which is why I suspect that training sessions under Ole likely weren't very intense. (Given everybody always commenting on United's lethargic starts.)

I do think non-intense training is common though, based on the idea that you don't want to injure or overstretch players outside matches. But so from my understanding, it's misguided.
A key bit from the Athletic article which hopefully points the direction we are going in:



The article goes on to explain that Ragnick will serve as an advisor and mentor to Murtough, once his management stint is up. Murtough spent eight hours with him back in August 2019 seeing the inner workings of Redbull, of which Ragnick built their football operations from the ground up from 2009. Taking RB Leipzig from the 4th to CL regulars.

Furthermore, Nick Cox - the academy head - is close to Murtough, and there is a natural synergy with Ragnick’s youth development strategy. Apparently, Ragnick is familiar, and holds in high regard, Andrew Meredith - United’s new (PhD) head of Analysis Operations - from his time with St. Pauli in Germany. To bolster that team, Ragnick will be bringing a second backroom team member, in addition to his assistant, a video analysis specialist. A position United had been looking to add anyway under the recommendation of Meredith. Furthermore, David Horrocks, United’s head of research and Development has spent time at Redbull providing detailed reports on their operations and is another familiar with, and in sync with, Ragnick.

Ragnick is keeping the existing coaching staff for continuity, and is going to be assessing their coaching and managerial credentials. His methodology is to train all coaching staff to coach to the same systems, and methodology, while allowing fluidity in tactics. The ultimate goal is to create a conveyer belt of managerial talent that can step up to first team level, even the head coach job as required. Just as he has done at Redbull. It is the perfect personification of the overused word “philosophy”. Whereby, even if the tactics change, and managers change, the systems and methodology remain consistent.

Within the club, and by Murtough himself, there is the recognition that maybe Murtough currently lacks the clout for a fully fledged sporting director role. The goal, by working closely with Ragnick for the next two and a half years, is that he will gain that. Ragnick has also already spoken with Fletcher about their shared football ideologies.

I have added one or two additional details from a German football podcast, but the bulk is from the Athletic. The final detail is that Ragnick will be heavily involved in player recruitment - specifically identification using a data driven approach - as well as in the appointment of a new permanent manager.
That sounds very sensible and very promising for the long term.
 

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The players are pissed? Oh boo hoo maybe now they'll have to work. Does anyone else find it incredibly annoying that the players feel entitled to be annoyed about this? They should be concentrating on their game not throwing tantrums because they weren't consulted about the new interim manager, the dressing room needs sorting big time, get rid of these personalities who think they are entitled everything
From Monday, I’m sure some of them won’t know what has just hit them. An actual proper hard working training session rather than posing for selfies together and playing piggy in the middle for a laugh.
 

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I can't follow it word for word until the 'hit back' part, but from what I'm hearing: 'We can talk all we want and the others can talk all they want - just do it'. Turns off the lights. 'Get out!' Turns the lights back on. 'I want to see outside what [...] is, I want there outside [...]. Hit back with everything you have, cause where we want to go, you get nothing for free! Nowhere! So now go outside and GET what you want!'
Thanks for the translation. I remember Jesse Marsch's similar video when he was at Slazburg (IIRC)
 

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Ronaldo's agent would have been leaking like a sieve and spinning like a top. He knows what's coming...
Mendes according to reports was trying to influence the board to appoint one of his clients.
 

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Ronaldo's agent would have been leaking like a sieve and spinning like a top. He knows what's coming...
Apparently i read a report that Ronaldo actually approved, so I don't think it's him that's upset at all, he's a professional after all, I can guarantee I know some of the players who would complain though
 

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The players are pissed? Oh boo hoo maybe now they'll have to work. Does anyone else find it incredibly annoying that the players feel entitled to be annoyed about this? They should be concentrating on their game not throwing tantrums because they weren't consulted about the new interim manager, the dressing room needs sorting big time, get rid of these personalities who think they are entitled everything
The difference between the players we have now and say the class of 92 that broght this club so much success. Prima donas these days, name on the back is more important than the name on the badge. Scholeys and the bunch would of run through walls for Rangnick and been happy with it.
 
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