F1 2021 Season

[Uniquim]

Having seen the F2 races, I expected there to be a crash or two, but nothing like that.

Honestly, I think Max would struggle to win on those tyres in the end, but he gave the position back twice for the same incident, and still got a 5-second penalty.
Confused about that one. Was the penalty for something else?

Feel like Hamilton had more than enough time and space to react to Max slowing down to let him pass, but then it's difficult to tell how much a car is slowing down from tv images. If he was brake-testing, then it's dirty, but it didn't look like he slowed down that violently. He did seem to move at the end when Lewis was going to the side though. Either Mercedes or the FIA were too slow with the radio messages too. Lewis finding that much pace with a broken end plate is pretty crazy.

Max were a bit reckless in some of the corners, Lewis were wrong to force Max wide after he let him past for like the third time in the race.
Feel like both parties can be understandably aggrieved about events.

Perez and Leclerc crash was down to racing incident. Leclerc had nowhere to go, Perez didn't have much space on the right iirc. Mazepin and Russell crash could've ended up being a lot worse, thankfully seems everyone is okay.

Vettel kept getting hit by everyone.

What a mess.

That inside move from Verstappen when they were three wide into turn 1 was beautiful though.

 

[GeorgieBoy]

As much as I want Hamilton to win it, I don't want the penalty to determine that last race (if Max is to be penalized).

He should race fairly and we wouldn't have to worry about it.
He's continually showed he isn't willing to do that though.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Max summoned to stewards for the alleged brake testing.

My guess is they won't bother but if they do it's one of the most serious punishments.

I think he'll get 100 lines.

And Horner will write them for him.

 

[WeePat]

I don’t think a deliberate crash is beyond Max. Every time Lewis has tried to pass him the last 2 races he has forced him off track very deliberately. I hope it doesn’t come to that.

That track was pretty poor as well. I imagine it’s incredible to drive but from a safety point of view it’s madness. So much stop/start and every minor bump is a VSC.

Put your lifesavings on it. It's happening.

 

[sun_tzu]

They have created a monster in Max. Such a shame he’s legendary quick but an absolute bell end.

To be fair it's impressive somebody cam go head to head with Lewis and be more unpopular... thats a really special talent there (though I wonder if without horner if he would come over so badly)

 

[Fluctuation0161]

I don’t think a deliberate crash is beyond Max. Every time Lewis has tried to pass him the last 2 races he has forced him off track very deliberately. I hope it doesn’t come to that.

That track was pretty poor as well. I imagine it’s incredible to drive but from a safety point of view it’s madness. So much stop/start and every minor bump is a VSC.

Yep and the Monza incident.

I predict Max will try to take out Lewis next race. He'll probably succeed and the title will be decided by the stewards. So awarded to Max.

 

[hp88]

They have created a monster in Max. Such a shame he’s legendary quick but an absolute bell end.

Same thing happened to Seb whilst he was with RBR, turned into a different man once he moved over to Ferrari.

 

[SirAnderson]

I hope not, I dont want the WC decided by a penalty, add point to his super licence, fine him but let them start the next race on level ground.

Yeah, would be terrible if that's how it's decided! Really hope not.

 

[Leg-End]

Don’t they have the data from the cars to prove it?

Yep, They will deep dive into it

 

[Hephaestus]

As much as I want Hamilton to win it, I don't want the penalty to determine that last race (if Max is to be penalized).

It would be a shame but if Max did brake check or move at the last second to cause that impact, they shouldn't have a choice, that is beyond dangerous. Honestly think it was just a communication feck up leading to a clusterfeck. Doesn't excuse the rest of his driving.

Don’t they have the data from the cars to prove it?

Yeah, they should have telemetry to prove it either way.

 

[Mickeza]

100% he meant it IMO. You could see/hear how much Lewis was in his head with the “10 car lengths” thing.

That was so pathetic. People in here bleating on about it too

 

[sun_tzu]

Max summoned to stewards for the alleged brake testing.

My guess is they won't bother but if they do it's one of the most serious punishments.

I assume they will have all the telemetry so if they are summoning him then I'd guess there is potential for punishment as if the telemetry showed nothing they wouldn't summon him?

 

[17Larsson]

Hamilton said he didn't know Verstappen was told to let him by so he was confused about what was happening.
There'll be no punishment for Max for that

 

[Leg-End]

Lewis’s onboard, looks a lot like Max braked to me.

 

[The Hilton]

Max is like spoiled child, he simply won't ever accept being in the wrong.

 

[groovyalbert]

So confused by all this from my limited knowledge.

I think this is a bit of a storm in a tea cup. Doesn't look obviously like brake testing imo.

 

[Gringo]

Racing incident. Move on.

 

[Adam-Utd]

reasons why hamilton probably didn’t want to just sweep passed him;

has no vision ahead, could have been an accident or debris

worried that max is braking on a straight with no warning, completely out of the norm.

Is he going to try and put him in the wall? etc

 

[The Cat]

I think he'll get 100 lines.

And Horner will write them for him.

 

[Rooney1987]

Di Resta can be so stupid sometimes. He just said why wouldn't Lewis pass him? Because he wanted DRS Paul. I will never understand how he got a Sky pundit deal, he so mundane.

 

[Slevs]

As much as I want Max to win it, Hamilton has got this. Car is so much better these last few races. Exciting season though.

 

[keithsingleton]

Who the fcuk votes for these drivers of the day. What a dirty tw@t Max is. Poetic justice served.

 

[Adam-Utd]

So confused by all this from my limited knowledge.

I think this is a bit of a storm in a tea cup. Doesn't look obviously like brake testing imo.

hes braking on a straight that’s usually 180mph+ no wonder hamilton is confused at that moment.

it seems he expects him to suddenly speed up but then brakes even more

 

[RoadTrip]

I don’t see why the sky crew are so confused about why Hamilton didn’t go past?

Hamilton didn’t know Max was going to let him past. In that context it’s obviously confusing if the car in front is suddenly slowing down because you don’t know why. So you might be thinking something might have happened up the road? It’s not usual for a car to suddenly go slow, so without knowing he is letting you past, naturally you’d have no idea what was going on?

 

[Maroon Lucifer]

reasons why hamilton probably didn’t want to just sweep passed him;

has no vision ahead, could have been an accident or debris

worried that max is braking on a straight with no warning, completely out of the norm.

Is he going to try and put him in the wall? etc

very good points

 

[pauldyson1uk]

If they think Max break tested Lewis and I think he did, they cant not give him some sort of penalty.
If they dont it again send out the wrong message.
I really dont want them to.

 

[MarylandMUFan]

Can't wait for the next Netflix season to come out. Will be hard not to skip to the episode about this race.

 

[Redlambs]

Shouldn't they tell the guy behind what's happening first? It seems stupid to tell the one who has to slow down first.

 

[Abizzz]

Max. He's won more races.

1 Win. Spa.

That would be insane.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Racing incident. Move on.

in no way was it a racing incident.

 

[Darkhorsez]

Di Resta can be so stupid sometimes. He just said why wouldn't Lewis pass him? Because he wanted DRS Paul. I will never understand how he got a Sky pundit deal, he so mundane.

 

[Asger]

Max is like spoiled child, he simply won't ever accept being in the wrong.

Isn't that with all drivers though? Can't remember Hamilton being in the wrong his whole career as well.

 

[sun_tzu]

1 Win. Spa.

That would be insane.

Yeah whatever happens that farce shouldn't settle the title

 

[Mickeza]

I don’t see why the sky crew are so confused about why Hamilton didn’t go past?

Hamilton didn’t know Max was going to let him past. In that context it’s obviously confusing if the car in front is suddenly slowing down because you don’t know why. So you might be thinking something might have happened up the road? It’s not usual for a car to suddenly go slow, so without knowing he is letting you past, naturally you’d have no idea what was going on?

He also doesn’t know what side he’s moving! He sways both ways in the middle of the road…granted very slowly…I don’t get why that’s being missed!

 

[RepardReece]

I hope not, I dont want the WC decided by a penalty, add point to his super licence, fine him but let them start the next race on level ground.

I'd like to agree with that but rules are rules. Only max would have himself to blame for driving so recklessly.

Look at the last two races, his driving is disgusting. I would not at all be surprised if he did brake check Lewis (not saying he did).

 

[Fluctuation0161]

100% he meant it IMO. You could see/hear how much Lewis was in his head with the “10 car lengths” thing.

I missed that. What do you mean?

 

[rimaldo]

maybe if you could trust max as a driver then you wouldn’t have to second guess his intentions at all times and you could just sweep by him? a win at all cost mentality comes with cost.

 

[Uniquim]

As much as I want Max to win it, Hamilton has got this. Car is so much better these last few races. Exciting season though.

Yeah, I think so too. Even with the track layout changes in Abu Dhabi, I tihnk Mercedes will have the upper hand. Red Bulls should be faster in the twisty parts, but last year Mercedes had older power units, and Red Bull had fresh ones. This year Mercedes have quite fresh power units for Abu Dhabi.

Unless they crash into each other of course.

 

[17Larsson]

If they think Max break tested Lewis and I think he did, they cant not give him some sort of penalty.
If they dont it again send out the wrong message.
I really dont want them to.

He slowed down to let Hamilton by. He picked that spot so he could get DRS.
Hamilton didn't know he was told to let him by so he was confused about what was happening.
There was plenty of room for Hamilton to do the overtake.
There'll be no penalty

 

[Fluctuation0161]

I don’t see why the sky crew are so confused about why Hamilton didn’t go past?

Hamilton didn’t know Max was going to let him past. In that context it’s obviously confusing if the car in front is suddenly slowing down because you don’t know why. So you might be thinking something might have happened up the road? It’s not usual for a car to suddenly go slow, so without knowing he is letting you past, naturally you’d have no idea what was going on?

Slowing in the middle of the track, swerving and then braking hard. But the car behind is supposed to be telepathic and know what is going on!