I didn't understand that either. He's contradicting his own argument.
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yep. that’s the ending the season deserved. what we got was a punch in the gut and then pissed on as we laid on the floor clutching our stomachs.
Versus the same champ for a decade?(hypetbole) . Sure.
Yeah they will. Good for the sport. No such thing as bad PR
There was an inconsistent call at the start. I doubt they overturn this. I’m not a huge F1 fan but yeah.
Sport or media depends on viewers. Long standing fans seemed like they needed more.
Agree. T20 cricket. Etc. It’s all headed to the “quick consumer”.
Someone on here said mick would be involved to stop Lewis beating his old mans record haha
Spa gained Max 5 points so no difference in the final championship standings
With the wave of new fans they getting because of this "entertainment" I'm not sure they want to. At least not enough to change anything that happened today.I think you overestimate the importance of this thread.
On a serious note though, how do they restore the integrity of the sport after this?
New regs coming in next season though, that will be interesting.
Why do other fans influence who you support? I'm surprised you're a United fan then.
After he was robbed of 50 in Baku and Silverstone.
Some people pay a lot of money for that
I've not said it is Max's fault?
He took Hamilton cleanly because the rules weren't followed. The only reason.
I think we can agree that today's race was not fair, based on the fact rules were broken.
Just answer my question now.
Based on the fact rules were broken (not a bit of luck, not a bit of excellent driving) that absolutely favoured Max at the most crucial time of the season, does that take away any of the merit?
Perhaps... or maybe they should expect rules are enforced and if not use their full commercial power to react.. lawsuit withdrawing from next year abs taking engines away as well
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Well a poster claimed earlier it wasn’t communicated to all teams so the rules weren’t broken.
I could guess the majority of F1 fans would have voted against VAR if this is their usual Sunday.
Now you're just being deliberately facetious so no real point debating.
Great great point by Rosberg that Mercedes were making their decisions based on the rules and so changing the rules is messed up in that way as well
2 big decisions by masi that has effected the championship
max not getting a tougher sanction for saudi
not following their own rule book just to make it a spectacle
max not getting a tougher sanction for saudi
not following their own rule book just to make it a spectacle
I don't. But I don't support an individual driver anyway. The best period of F1 for me was 2006-2010 when there was a different winner every season.
Mh, yeah, poor turn of phrase from me. It's just, Max was chasing Lewis, it was unlikely but you never know. To see that taken away, in a race like this, in a season like this, i dunno, it would have felt wrong somehow
Yep, 100%
Don't feed the troll, he's just on a wind up - basically hates Hamilton and any of his fans.
Regardless which driver won. I hate to see F1 turn into a farce. Its about the integrity of the sport. That's the sad thing.
If you like WWE you will like F1 under the rule of Masi.
It's still way down on what it was back in the 90s and early 2000s though.
I've watched every F1 race since '93, but the sport just doesn't occupy the same place in the public consciousness that it once did.
fiat can’t let mercedes protest stand. mercedes won’t take it on the chin. going to be a long break of posturing.
Absolutely they didn't need to do anything after they said that the cars wouldn't be allowed to pass. You can't then suddenly change that decision minutes later for nothing other than dramatic effect.
Surely, since they clearly care a lot about the spectacle, they can easily market a LEWIS v MAX winner takes all with only two of them on the track to settle this once and for all.
Hamilton clearly the Better driver on championship day which makes him a far more deserving winner. He drove spectacularly on those tyres for so long, and max couldn’t get close to him even with brand new ones. To be so far ahead, and so obviously about to win, then to have it taken away like that… it’s just not fair. The stewards should restart the race with the exact time gaps between each racer when the accident happened. You lose a race because another driver didn’t do his job, and crashed? Come on.
Hamilton clearly the Better driver on championship day which makes him a far more deserving winner. He drove spectacularly on those tyres for so long, and max couldn’t get close to him even with brand new ones. To be so far ahead, and so obviously about to win, then to have it taken away like that… it’s just not fair. The stewards should restart the race with the exact time gaps between each racer when the accident happened. You lose a race because another driver didn’t do his job, and crashed? Come on.
How about combining today's decision with the half points awarded in Spa for a non race? Which also benefited Max and Red Bull.
Yeah exactly, it's not Max's fault, so how's he undeserving if there's nothing he could have done there? What do you expect him to do in the last lap, slow down and let Lewis WIN the championship because he was the faster driver on the day?
Yeah, it does takeaway some merit, but that doesn't change the fact that he DESERVES the championship, 1 race IS NOT a championship, it's made up of 20+ races.
The more I think about it, the more I think if they wanted to go down the “let them race” route, they should have red flagged it.
Leaving bbc may have something to do with that in the UK
Imagine if Hamilton had won it like that, I think the whole of Holland would have invaded Stevenage (or Monaco).
my bad!
They have..
(1) the decision on the penultimate lap was outside the rules set, and
(2) Horner is a twat so how can he be allowed to win anything?
Both fair protests t.b.f.
yep. 5 laps, both on fresh softs. it would have been immense.
Imagine a marathon runner 5 minutes ahead gets told to stop with 200 meters to go and it's a sprint finish to decide the winner.
That's what I'm saying though, events like this put it more in the public consciousness. Right or wrong decision, Twitter is popping off, Reddit going mad, here going crazy...it'll monopolize the papers for a while. Its a long road back to the halcyon days of Eddie Irvine and Ralf Schumacher but events like these are how you get there.
Dunno how snooker gets back into vogue like the 90's though, there's just not the same potential for drama creation there!
And its Usain Bolt in a new pair of trainers.
Again, not Max's fault. He's not the one making that decision. He deserves the championship there's no arguing that. Whether they should have won is a different question, take away these results and sure, Lewis should be winning.
My argument here is both Max and Lewis have deserved this championship as my original post states.
I'll make myself clear, I absolutely cannot stand Max and my post history in this thread show that. But he's fully deserving of being a champion this year.
Leaving free-to-air TV has definitely done that.
And I'm amazed that it's continued on satellite TV as long as it has. The viewership is paltry.