F1 2021 Season

[Cassidy]

Why are they complaining about it now then?

edit: I do agree about the unfairness but that’s always been the case. The way people are going on about it is as if they all of a sudden created a safety car today.

They are not to be honest. People have complained about it for years.

Todays issue is with the application. Or non application of the SC withdrawal rules.

Seems to me though the rules are ambiguous and Mercedes won’t win. The rules only say all cars needs to unlap themselves if all cars are told to.

 

[Eendracht maakt macht]

They already had 55 laps of racing and Hamilton was miles ahead. The arbitrary the last lap has to be a racing one is nonsense.

That happens all the time in formula 1. It’s terrible luck but Verstappen had his fair share of that too this season.

 

[Fully Fledged]

Why are they complaining about it now then?

edit: I do agree about the unfairness but that’s always been the case. The way people are going on about it is as if they all of a sudden created a safety car today.

They didn't apply their own rules when allowing 5 cars to unlap themselves so they could have a last lap race.

 

[sewey89]

Horner looks confident

 

[KirkDuyt]

Soooooo, why didn't Hamilton pit like Max?

Don't get that either Merc seem very cautious compared to RB. All they do is react

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Get them both out on the track again. Five lap shoot out. After five pints each. The FIA not doing this is a farce. Worse than the FAI.

That's just silly.



Tag team wrestling is the only solution. "Mad" Max and "Little Jack" Horner Vs "Old man" Lewis and "Headphones" Tito

 

[We need an rvn]

They aren’t going to rule against him. And it’s going to CAS either way. If they hand Hamilton the win, Red Bull obviously aren’t just going to accept it either.

Well not really because if it goes to CAS i don't think there's a chance to appeal the decision as that is the final decision

 

[Jerch]

Even footballers who chose to play for Liverpool have enough sense to see what happened...

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Well when u find out that u agree with Liverpool players u should know that u are on the wrong side.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

do they normally give decisions in person ?

 

[hobbers]

Seems to me though the rules are ambiguous and Mercedes won’t win. The rules only say all cars needs to unlap themselves if all cars are told to.

Well that's the argument the FIA would no doubt use.

Because the order was very specific about which cars unlap.

It throws up all sorts of questions though about the future rules. Who decides what cars unlap? On what basis?

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Is there an ELI5 post in here breaking all this down?

 

[sewey89]

What a shit way to end the season. FIA have fecked this up so badly

 

[Drawfull]

Get them both out on the track again. Five lap shoot out. After five pints each. The FIA not doing this is a farce. Worse than the FAI.

Many many years ago on That's Life, they had some people playing Outrun sober, then again after a few pints. To a man they all improved when pissed. Makes you think.

 

[Redlambs]

Soooooo, why didn't Hamilton pit like Max?

Strategy. They didn't need too, he had a 10-second lead, and they were lead to believe there'd be no overlap at first.

 

[Eendracht maakt macht]

They didn't apply their own rules when allowing 5 cars to unlap themselves so they could have a last lap race.

You’d rather have no racing?

 

[Wilt]

no matter what is decided, it’s not going to fix what happened today. it’s like this old family saying we have, “you can’t unfeck the turkey, rimaldo, christmas is ruined.”

Thanks for that …Christmas turkey will from now on never taste the same.

 

[RoadTrip]

Well not really because if it goes to CAS i don't think there's a chance to appeal the decision as that is the final decision

Eh? I mean whatever is decided in this protest is going to CAS. Regardless of the outcome.

 

[senorgregster]

Soooooo, why didn't Hamilton pit like Max?

If he did, max stays out and wins.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Don't get that either Merc seem very cautious compared to RB. All they do is react

They didn't want to be behind Max? (for some unknown reason)

 

[Cassidy]

Because if the rules had been followed, they anticipated that the race would have finished behind a safety car.

No they simply didn't want to risk the fact that the race MIGHT finish under the SC. It wasn't a decision about the rules but probabilities at the time and since Hamilton had already passed the pit entry.

 

[Ixion]

That happens all the time in formula 1. It’s terrible luck but Verstappen had his fair share of that too this season.

It's beyond luck they literally disregarded the rules so they could have a shoot-out last lap for a bit of spectacle. That isnt sport.

 

[hp88]

Horner looks confident

Still wearing that T Shirt

 

[utdalltheway]

Crazy stuff this. This shows they need some serious overhaul at FIA

 

[redshaw]

FIA: Sprint Race

 

[hellhunter]

Well that's the argument the FIA would no doubt use.

Because the order was very specific about which cars unlap.

It throws up all sorts of questions though about the future rules. Who decides what cars unlap? On what basis?

Theres still the issue of SC not coming in the next round, but the same one

 

[Buster15]

I feel like either the Judgment of Solomon is coming - cut the WC in half.
Or that 2 wrongs actually make a right.

I am joking by the way.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Eh? I mean whatever is decided in this protest is going to CAS. Regardless of the outcome.

I think he meant if FiA award it... (not CAS)

 

[Redlambs]

Pretty sure there's more netflix fans here these days than racing fans

Yeah great comment. You are a much better fan being happy at rules changing to suit tv audiences, there's irony there

At least let it be a fair fight won't you? Or is that changing the rules too far?

 

[Eendracht maakt macht]

It's beyond luck they literally disregarded the rules so they could have a shoot-out last lap for a bit of spectacle. That isnt sport.

That’s your opinion. That isn’t a fact.

 

[GeorgieBoy]

You’d rather have no racing?

There was plenty of racing all of the laps before.
What he wanted was the rules to be applied correctly.
Which they weren’t.

 

[0le]

No they simply didn't want to risk the fact that the race MIGHT finish under the SC. It wasn't a decision about the rules but probabilities at the time and since Hamilton had already passed the pit entry.

Hence the word "anticipated".

 

[Uniquim]

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'Red bull and Mercedes going to the stewards to hear the verdict.'

 

[Pexbo]

You’d rather have no racing?

If a team was leading 1-0 in the last 5 minutes and someone had to go off injured, would you be happy with the referee deciding it would be decided with a penalty shoot out?

 

[Ixion]

You’d rather have no racing?

Did you miss the previous 55 laps?

 

[Cassidy]

If he did, max stays out and wins.

Not necessarily. Would have actually ended up a shoot out both on softs for one lap. Merc had no way to know that though. They played the probabilities

 

[Drawfull]

That’s your opinion. That isn’t a fact.

The rules were disregarded for 'motor racing', later corrected by the glorious Masi to, 'car racing'.

 

[0le]

Rangnick would have taken control of this situation.

 

[Redlambs]

If a team was leading 1-0 in the last 5 minutes and someone had to go off injured, would you be happy with the referee deciding it would be decided with a penalty shoot out?

With the team 1-0 up playing in slippers too mind.

Yeah, totally fair according to these "racing fans"

 

[hellhunter]

Not necessarily. Would have actually ended up a shoot out both on softs for one lap. Merc had no way to know that though. They played the probabilities

The rules as they were rather than the probabilities.

 

[KirkDuyt]

They didn't want to be behind Max? (for some unknown reason)

He was much faster though, would've easily overtaken him.