The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll

[Revan]

I'm in the lowest priority group so likely won't be offered a booster until March/April. At that point I may as well decide to be tactical about it and delay it until the autumn. If I take it immediately the effects would probably be deemed worn off by autumn and I'd be furthest back in the queue for the next jab ahead of the winter.

Pfizer CEO saying fourth dose may be needed pretty soon. Mad talk. At some point something will have to give. Young and healthy people simply won't be interested in getting boosters twice per year for the foreseeable future.

Young and healthy people would either be young and unhealthy people or dead people if they do not get boosters twice per year or so.

It is very weird to hear people being surprised about the inevitability of getting boosters periodically for a long time. I mean, this information was there since quite early in the process, that it was very likely that the vaccines won't provide lifetime immunity and thus we will need to get boosters.

 

[Penna]

Also now had 3 Pfizers, the nurse was a little agricultural this time which might explain the more severe arm pain. She'd have been good giving jabs to horses or cattle I reckon.

 

[P-Ro]

Got my booster 2 hours ago. Vaccination centre I booked my appointment in was pretty crowded with most of the people there being walk-ins. They made efforts to try and maintain social distancing unlike what happened for my first jab. Pretty upset with myself that I didn't book it weeks ago as I live with someone with a weakened immune system and it would have been much quieter then. I know I'm now going to be spending next 2 weeks being a hypochondriac and filled with so much anxiety that I might have got caught covid there due to the new variant being 4 times more transmissible than delta. I hate being a worrier.

 

[Withnail]

An additional question for you all - at what point will you stop getting the vaccine?

a) I never started
b) I stopped after first dose
c) I stopped after second dose
d) I will stop after third dose
e) I will stop eventually
f) I will never stop

I was planning on getting the flu jab every year as it's free and I'm approaching my mid-40s now. I've had the Flu a few times and I'm in absolutely no rush to catch it again.

I don't see a regular covid booster as being any different.

 

[Widow]

Had my booster an hour ago. Hoping the side effects are minimal as my health anxiety is terrible.

Wish me luck

 

[Santos J]

Had my booster an hour ago. Hoping the side effects are minimal as my health anxiety is terrible.

Wish me luck

Aye I feel you, got mine tomorrow and in the same boat. Was fine after my first 2 and no doubt will be after this but if only it worked like that in my head.

 

[Martial'sEmergingSmile]

Had my booster an hour ago. Hoping the side effects are minimal as my health anxiety is terrible.

Wish me luck

Good luck mate.

Try to remember that any potential side effects - and hopefully there won't be any - will quickly be fought off and will protect you from the possibility of something major down the road.

 

[Gehrman]

Just got my 2nd jab. Never felt anything from the 1st.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Young and healthy people would either be young and unhealthy people or dead people if they do not get boosters twice per year or so.

It is very weird to hear people being surprised about the inevitability of getting boosters periodically for a long time. I mean, this information was there since quite early in the process, that it was very likely that the vaccines won't provide lifetime immunity and thus we will need to get boosters.

Not really. Young people who already been through a full vaccination course can get their immunity topped up by an occasional infection. Fully vaxxed young people don’t have very much to worry about when it comes to catching covid. Even after the initial high level of protection vs infection has waned they will have a good long term immune memory to protect them against severe illness.

 

[Jimble]

Saw a queue outside the local surgery so joined it this morning. I was in, asked a couple of questions, boosted, and back in my car in less than 5 mins.

Not really got much pain in the arm at all, which is different to last time. Last time it was rock solid for days, and everything was moving really slowly.

Glad I got it done now, don't want to feel shitty for xmas.

 

[RonaldoVII]

Had my booster at lunch and was my 3rd Pfizer. There were people queuing outside for walk-ins but I skipped that queue and was in and out in 10 mins. No arm pain or other side effects as per the other jabs.

 

[Widow]

Aye I feel you, got mine tomorrow and in the same boat. Was fine after my first 2 and no doubt will be after this but if only it worked like that in my head.

Same bud. We'll get through it. Best of luck

Good luck mate.

Try to remember that any potential side effects - and hopefully there won't be any - will quickly be fought off and will protect you from the possibility of something major down the road.

Thanks bud, appreciate the kind words

 

[JPRouve]

Also now had 3 Pfizers, the nurse was a little agricultural this time which might explain the more severe arm pain. She'd have been good giving jabs to horses or cattle I reckon.

I wish you a swift recovery, I remember my first jab and it was really painful for a few days.

 

[lynchie]

Big booster numbers today - still need to go up by another ~30% to reach end of December target, and not convinced many people are going to be getting jabbed on Christmas Eve/Day. Still, good to see the achievement of the people involved on the ground.

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[LilyWhiteSpur]

Big booster numbers today - still need to go up by another ~30% to reach end of December target, and not convinced many people are going to be getting jabbed on Christmas Eve/Day. Still, good to see the achievement of the people involved on the ground.

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Poor NI we don't even get our flag displayed .

 

[lynchie]

Poor NI we don't even get our flag displayed .

The Twitter emoji guy is a pro-reunification

 

[jrsenior]

My family got our immune boost from omikron. The way nature intented it

 

[Vidyoyo]

So how exactly do walk-in centres work? I've just gone to book but the earliest I can get is Jan, whereas the centre says it's available for walk-ins.

I'm considering Sunday morning but I'll have to walk there and it's a 2.5 mile round trip so ideally I don't want to get turned away...

 

[Withnail]

So how exactly do walk-in centres work? I've just gone to book but the earliest I can get is Jan, whereas the centre says it's available for walk-ins.

I'm considering Sunday morning but I'll have to walk there and it's a 2.5 mile round trip so ideally I don't want to get turned away...

Well deffo find out what the wait times are like.

I'm able to get the booster next week and may do a walk-in, depending on wait times, if the local GPs are all up the wall.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Got my booster on Monday!

 

[altodevil]

Makes my blood boil when you see hospital staff working their arses off to treat unvaccinated wankers

 

[Acole9]

My mum works at a doctors surgery and said they had some vaccines left over so I popped down and got my booster. Saves me an hour round trip tomorrow to the centre I was originally booked in at.

 

[Stanley Road]

I expect all dutch posters to be the last one boostered on this site. So slow

 

[christinaa]

Got two Moderna and one Pfizer Booster.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Makes my blood boil when you see hospital staff working their arses off to treat unvaccinated wankers

I got a friend who has is double jabbed but for some reason doesn’t want the booster as doesn’t think it’ll do anything?

 

[stw2022]

Had my booster a month ago still get three text messages a day reminding me to book it

 

[stw2022]

I got a friend who has is double jabbed but for some reason doesn’t want the booster as doesn’t think it’ll do anything?

My cousin had one then decided that was enough. Bonkers. At least there's some kind of dignity in being a total anti-vax dingbat. Agreeing to have one but then stopping there makes zero sense at all

 

[Pexbo]

Injecting a vaccine into a healthy young adult that have non existent risk of developing any serious illness to allow them play football? yes that is very ethical.

Let’s keep it to the proper threads. This sort of talk has no place in the football forums.

Do you really think it’s non-existent? Pogba was sidelined for weeks.

Kimmich is out long term because of it.

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/i...loped-inflammatory-heart-disease?platform=amp

 

[Santos J]

Same bud. We'll get through it. Best of luck


Thanks bud, appreciate the kind words

Ta mate, how you feeling?

 

[berbatrick]

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So...
Chinese public and private-sector companies with funding from the Chinese govt.
A university, Oxford, in cooperation with AstraZeneca, with funding from the British govt.
A startup, BioNTech, in cooperation with Pfizer, and funding from the German govt.
A startup, Moderna, with funding from the American govt.


Why did big pharma fail?
J&J was the one vaccine exclusively made by a big manufacturer, never caught on as much, was less effective, and is now officially second-class. Pfizer and AZ needed a lot of initial R&D from external sources. Roche, Eli Lily, Merck, Sandoz, nowhere to be seen.

It cannot be lack of cash, because these have been developed for under a billion dollars, and the big companies have assets 2 orders of magnitude greater (with more funding available from many govts).
Is it a lack of expertise? Both mRNA vaccines came from startups, so it seems the big ones weren't exactly at the vanguard of research. But surely they know how to make more traditional vaccines?
A lack of profit? Doesn't seem to have hurt Pfizer and Moderna's stock valuation, so it seems the market does see future profits.

 

[FootballHQ]

Big booster numbers today - still need to go up by another ~30% to reach end of December target, and not convinced many people are going to be getting jabbed on Christmas Eve/Day. Still, good to see the achievement of the people involved on the ground.

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Will probably see a big uptake in week leading up to NYE.

Possible could get over 40m by middle of Jan which is decent and hopefully limit impact of variant going into Feb as obviously needs a week or so to probably kick in.

 

[Widow]

Ta mate, how you feeling?

Zero side effects thus far but I've had a killer toothache for 3 days so maybe the pain from that is distracting me.

We'll see what the next few days bring

 

[Pexbo]

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So...
Chinese public and private-sector companies with funding from the Chinese govt.
A university, Oxford, in cooperation with AstraZeneca, with funding from the British govt.
A startup, BioNTech, in cooperation with Pfizer, and funding from the German govt.
A startup, Moderna, with funding from the American govt.


Why did big pharma fail?
J&J was the one vaccine exclusively made by a big manufacturer, never caught on as much, was less effective, and is now officially second-class. Pfizer and AZ needed a lot of initial R&D from external sources. Roche, Eli Lily, Merck, Sandoz, nowhere to be seen.

It cannot be lack of cash, because these have been developed for under a billion dollars, and the big companies have assets 2 orders of magnitude greater (with more funding available from many govts).
Is it a lack of expertise? Both mRNA vaccines came from startups, so it seems the big ones weren't exactly at the vanguard of research. But surely they know how to make more traditional vaccines?
A lack of profit? Doesn't seem to have hurt Pfizer and Moderna's stock valuation, so it seems the market does see future profits.

Luck? There was like 80 vaccines in development, it was inevitable that only a few of them would come out on top?

 

[Penna]

I wish you a swift recovery, I remember my first jab and it was really painful for a few days.

Thanks! I only had a few hours of trouble with the previous two. Still, mustn't grumble, it was free after all.

 

[berbatrick]

Luck? There was like 80 vaccines in development, it was inevitable that only a few of them would come out on top?

I guess! I would have expected that at least of one of the big names would have hit the spot, just having more resources to throw at it.

 

[Pexbo]

I guess! I would have expected that at least of one of the big names would have hit the spot, just having more resources to throw at it.

I only have logic to work with but I’d imagine it’s a case of putting their eggs in a basket and seeing what hatches. There’s so many variables that it’s virtually impossible to spread your bets and cover all based so it’s inevitable that some will fail.

 

[Organic Potatoes]

Had my booster an hour ago. Hoping the side effects are minimal as my health anxiety is terrible.

Wish me luck

If you feel the fever/chills come on, don’t panic. Mine were worse than most; I woke up wondering if I needed to go to a clinic but I was fine.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

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So...
Chinese public and private-sector companies with funding from the Chinese govt.
A university, Oxford, in cooperation with AstraZeneca, with funding from the British govt.
A startup, BioNTech, in cooperation with Pfizer, and funding from the German govt.
A startup, Moderna, with funding from the American govt.


Why did big pharma fail?
J&J was the one vaccine exclusively made by a big manufacturer, never caught on as much, was less effective, and is now officially second-class. Pfizer and AZ needed a lot of initial R&D from external sources. Roche, Eli Lily, Merck, Sandoz, nowhere to be seen.

It cannot be lack of cash, because these have been developed for under a billion dollars, and the big companies have assets 2 orders of magnitude greater (with more funding available from many govts).
Is it a lack of expertise? Both mRNA vaccines came from startups, so it seems the big ones weren't exactly at the vanguard of research. But surely they know how to make more traditional vaccines?
A lack of profit? Doesn't seem to have hurt Pfizer and Moderna's stock valuation, so it seems the market does see future profits.

Partnership with biotech start-up and/or academic institutions has been a path to market for loads of drugs long before these vaccines were developed. It’s a relatively recent change in approach but it’s produced a bunch of innovative medicines. This isn’t a “failure” of big pharma. It’s success for this recent tweak to their business model.

As for the number or them that failed in Phase I/II that’s probably a lower % than in most other therapeutic areas.

 

[decorativeed]

Young and healthy people would either be young and unhealthy people or dead people if they do not get boosters twice per year or so.

It is very weird to hear people being surprised about the inevitability of getting boosters periodically for a long time. I mean, this information was there since quite early in the process, that it was very likely that the vaccines won't provide lifetime immunity and thus we will need to get boosters.

That second paragraph I disagree with. This time last year it was thought 2 doses would be sufficient. There was hope it would be sterilising, just as early in the pandemic it was hoped you couldn't be reinfected. When I got my first jab in summer there was a suggestion that some people may need a booster at some point. There was very much not a sense of inevitability.

Like a few others on here, I've had a long standing phobia of needles stemming from childhood trauma. I'm going to go and stand in line for my booster tomorrow, but I'm really, really hoping it'll be the last time I need to do that.

 

[Lj82]

Incidentally I had my booster shot on this day last month through rather suspect means because Indonesia. Sinovac. It knocked me out real good for two days. Friends in Singapore, some even younger than me, have told me that they've received texts for booster appointments. Have you got yours yet?

Yeah I just got my booster last Friday. Took moderna for the first two shots and Pfizer for the booster. The moderna shots were brutal, but the I barely had any reaction to the Pfizer shot.

Aw man. You’re sure it wasn’t Sinovac? That’s scary news for most of my country!

Pretty sure what my friend took was sinopharm. Where are you from?