MIC_FIN
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I knew someone who actually lived in Bristol. Was about as unresponsive and boring as your reply. You have Banksy. So there is plus side.No need to apologise. You can't help it.... FFS
I knew someone who actually lived in Bristol. Was about as unresponsive and boring as your reply. You have Banksy. So there is plus side.No need to apologise. You can't help it.... FFS
How many of these players have been here for nine years? And how many played under previous management? The problems run a lot deeper than just the current set of players.Bye. You lot have been useless for nearly 9 years. Maybe if you had been better and also didn't throw other managers under the bus previously, I'd have been more sympathetic.
Even if he was that bad, he's only here for 6 months. Speaks volumes of the players that they can't even do that time.
That was because we had a strong manager who knew how to control his squad.I mean the class of 92 were one of the biggest cliques we had - but it never had a bad influence on the team or performances.
Even if that were true (which it's not) he got better results doing it than what RR has managedWe simply parked the bus under Carrick. There was nothing amazing about the performances under him
How else do you explain the performances?Its clear that the media love to "speculate" on our club to rile up fans & generate clicks.
Been happening for years, under different managers, with different squad players & coaching staff - the only constant are the journalists who profit off such news. Fergie famously kept his media connections at a minimum.
Now you've got hundreds of thousands of grown men willing to believe any & every gossip piece that comes out in a weird masochistic bond.
Yeah the performances under RR stink of players who aren't convinced about what they're being asked to doHow else do you explain the performances?
Didn't we beat Arsenal 3-2? I fail to see how we parked the bus under Carrick but haven't under Rangnick. Have we even scored 2 goals in a game with him yet?We simply parked the bus under Carrick. There was nothing amazing about the performances under him
What do you mean by the bold part?This is all on Ole for coddling them the last 3 years. Of course they are happy when he was around, he let them do whatever the feck they wanted. Also he signed and extend almost all these deadwood.
Literally 6 days ago.Didn't we beat Arsenal 3-2? I fail to see how we parked the bus under Carrick but haven't under Rangnick. Have we even scored 2 goals in a game with him yet?
Only once, against Burnley. Hate to use old cliches again but it really feels like we are waiting for a moment of individual brilliance in most of his games.Didn't we beat Arsenal 3-2? I fail to see how we parked the bus under Carrick but haven't under Rangnick. Have we even scored 2 goals in a game with him yet?
There's no difference to me. We have also been getting results wolves was the first loss.Yeah the performances under RR stink of players who aren't convinced about what they're being asked to do
Under Ole at the end they just didn't look like they knew what they were supposed to do hence why the go out and enjoy yourself still did get the occasional result at the end
To me there's been a clear difference between the mess at the end under Ole and the tumescent shite under RR
It's the players who want to high press versus the players who don't.I think it’s rather players who are playing vs those who are not.
You don't understand the terminology of clique. That much is evident.I don’t believe it has anything to do with nationality. I mean for example are Rashford and Maguire really friends? They probably get on alright but on international duty it’s Sancho and Rashford while Maguire is always with Stones, Kane, Rice, etc.
Shaw probably gets on with both Maguire and Rashford.
Greenwood probably doesn’t care about stuff like that and may occasionally knock on Rashford’s and Sancho’s door.
AWB gets on with AWB.
Same with Donny.
Ronaldo, Bruno and their little brother Dalot.
Fred and?? McT?
Cavani and?
Pogba is currently not playing but gets on well with the academy lads
I think it’s rather players who are playing vs those who are not.
Tell that to the Liverpool fans would have been calling for Klöpp’s head when he first signed for them!I don’t think it should take 6 weeks to play to at least the standard they played under Michael Carrick. We’ll see in the long run and I hope I’m proven spectacularly wrong.
Don't look at the results that's your mistake, look at the performances and if you think the performance at Spurs say winning 3-0 was the same as the 1-0 at Norwich then well enough saidThere's no difference to me. We have also been getting results wolves was the first loss.
The Liverpool and City games prove there is no difference.
Sounds like they're all members of the CafThe players are rarely happy, they wake up each morning thinking of something to be unhappy about.
Sounds like they're all members of the Caf
The squad is a shit mish mash of players from different regimes. Some of the current set of players have been here for 2 years, some 4 years, some 6 years and others the full 9 years.How many of these players have been here for nine years? And how many played under previous management? The problems run a lot deeper than just the current set of players.
I remember it well, a classic match! Rangnick in.Literally 6 days ago.
You have decided to pick one out of what 18 matches. Are you serious? If we don't have one performance as good as spurs in 18 matches then sure. Until then there is clearly no difference in the performances.Don't look at the results that's your mistake, look at the performances and if you think the performance at Spurs say winning 3-0 was the same as the 1-0 at Norwich then well enough said
I'm picking an example of a winning performance under Ole when things were bad to a winning performance under RR. The result may be the same but the performance in both games were chalk and cheeseYou have decided to pick one out of what 18 matches. Are you serious? If we don't have one performance as good as spurs in 18 matches then sure. Until then there is clearly no difference in the performances.
Liverpool at home for example is the worse loss I've witnessed in recent history.
Again we’ve had minimal amount of actual training sessions. And 2 of those weeks we had the training ground closed/could only train in small groups. He was also made official on the 2nd of December. So not 6 weeks.I don’t think it should take 6 weeks to play to at least the standard they played under Michael Carrick. We’ll see in the long run and I hope I’m proven spectacularly wrong.
Thats not the same though is it. We have other wins yet you didn't pick any of them. You picked one of only two good performances in 18 matches. Not any of the rubbish matches in between.I'm picking an example of a winning performance under Ole when things were bad to a winning performance under RR. The result may be the same but the performance in both games were chalk and cheese
It is already disrupted enough, you dropping a nuke in there would be the final blow.I am available if United want to sign me. I can barely run or kick a football but I can do a great smelly turd that will disrupt any dressing room.
There wasn’t and yet they were considerably better than we’ve seen under Rangnick bar 30 minutes in his first game. We were also scoring more goals.We simply parked the bus under Carrick. There was nothing amazing about the performances under him
You said to me you see no difference in the performances in the games we got results in under RR to those we did under Ole. I'm saying there clearly is. I'm not arguing both have/did serve up mass amounts of rubbish as wellThats not the same though is it. We have other wins yet you didn't pick any of them. You picked one of only two good performances in 18 matches. Not any of the rubbish matches in between.
We clearly haven't got into any rhythm yet so how is that a comparison? Let's compare how we have actually played this season with both managers.
Jurgen Klopp was a title winning manager. Rangnick isn’t. When you have pedigree you get more leeway. We also have a much better squad than Klopp inherited.Tell that to the Liverpool fans would have been calling for Klöpp’s head when he first signed for them!
6 weeks is far too early to be calling for any manager’s head. Especially when one week involved no training opportunities and the weeks since have involved games every 3/4 days.
I just think we need to be patient. We rushed giving Ole a contract based on cab over-reaction. Over-reacting in the opposite direction now doesn’t solve anything.
He’s here until the summer and as far as I am concerned, if he highlights the ‘bad apples’ and we improve the so be it.
You don’t undo 5 years of mismanagement and poor tactics in 6 weeks
I wasn’t the one who mentioned 6 weeks initially. If you’re happy with progress that’s up to you. We aren’t going to change each other’s minds.Again we’ve had minimal amount of actual training sessions. And 2 of those weeks we had the training ground closed/could only train in small groups. He was also made official on the 2nd of December. So not 6 weeks.
But your sample size doesn't make sense. We have 6 games under Ralf. Even performance wise the first half against Palace is our best since the beginning of the season against Leeds. So your point doesn't even make sense.You said to me you see no difference in the performances in the games we got results in under RR to those we did under Ole. I'm saying there clearly is. I'm not arguing both have/did serve up mass amounts of rubbish as well
All that unsold Jlingz underwear, you mean?Can we have their stuff when they leave?