I knew someone who actually lived in Bristol. Was about as unresponsive and boring as your reply. You have Banksy. So there is plus side.
"Up to 11 players now want to leave United after becoming disillusioned with life at the club."
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How many of these players have been here for nine years? And how many played under previous management? The problems run a lot deeper than just the current set of players.
I've been following this club since, well, Lou Macari was playing in the 70s. Followed them at home plus up and down the country. Although my 70s and 80s United didn't win league titles, it wasn't for lack of effort. I just struggle relate to many in this United team, they seem to be so far detached from the minimum requirements needed to play for this club. Anthony Martials general demeanour, Pogba's posturing and swagger for starts says we need a clear out.
That was because we had a strong manager who knew how to control his squad.
We have been badly managed from top to bottom as a club since SAF retired and even with the new structure we have in it wont make much of a difference.
We just have to hope that RR has a capable manager succeed him and we can try push on.
Even if that were true (which it's not) he got better results doing it than what RR has managed
How else do you explain the performances?
Even if it is 11 players who are on the way out anyway I'm surprised by the lack of chances fringe players have got under RR. On one hand you could argue that maybe despite what people said Ole was right about those players but then on the other hand I look at someone like Lingard and see him as someone who would be much more suited to this batshit crazy 4222 than Bruno and Sancho
I want to believe that the owners will back Ralfs recommendations this summer. Using security to pick up the bad players and throw them out of Carrington by carrying them like a battering ram through the fire exit.
Disclaimer: I hope no players are harmed in the summer clear out process*
Disclaimer: I hope no players are harmed in the summer clear out process*
Yeah the performances under RR stink of players who aren't convinced about what they're being asked to do
Under Ole at the end they just didn't look like they knew what they were supposed to do hence why the go out and enjoy yourself still did get the occasional result at the end
To me there's been a clear difference between the mess at the end under Ole and the tumescent shite under RR
Didn't we beat Arsenal 3-2? I fail to see how we parked the bus under Carrick but haven't under Rangnick. Have we even scored 2 goals in a game with him yet?
What do you mean by the bold part?
Appointing an interim manager for 6 months was never going to be a good idea. 3 managers in one season the players have the prospect of playing for, who wants that. I’m not excusing the players for being pathetic on the pitch, that’s down to the lack of effort on their part, the uncertainty surrounding the club is unbelievable. Club is a shambles at the minute and they don’t seem to know what there doing. Team isn’t the worst on paper but on the pitch being outplayed by Newcastle and Wolves is not acceptable.
Playing 2 holding midfielders against wolves is criminal, no midfield link from defence to the attack is a major concern. I’m surprised Ronaldo has scored as many considering the service he’s received and wouldn’t be surprised he’s one of the players wanting to leave and wouldn’t blame him either. Maybe that’s half the problem, the age he is he has nothing to prove and very little time left to be able to win more trophies so won’t hang around to fight through it all.
There’s deep rooted problems throughout the club as a whole, Jose wanted rid of Martial a few seasons ago when here and had fall outs with Shaw and Pogba and maybe others in the team. He was able to see these problems and wanted to get rid of them and just went the wrong way about it. The players are weak mentally and due to the money they get paid every week, do half of them even care if they win anything? They're set for life and don’t need to worry financially. Are they looking at Liverpool and City and deep down thinking they can’t catch them so why bother?
Playing 2 holding midfielders against wolves is criminal, no midfield link from defence to the attack is a major concern. I’m surprised Ronaldo has scored as many considering the service he’s received and wouldn’t be surprised he’s one of the players wanting to leave and wouldn’t blame him either. Maybe that’s half the problem, the age he is he has nothing to prove and very little time left to be able to win more trophies so won’t hang around to fight through it all.
There’s deep rooted problems throughout the club as a whole, Jose wanted rid of Martial a few seasons ago when here and had fall outs with Shaw and Pogba and maybe others in the team. He was able to see these problems and wanted to get rid of them and just went the wrong way about it. The players are weak mentally and due to the money they get paid every week, do half of them even care if they win anything? They're set for life and don’t need to worry financially. Are they looking at Liverpool and City and deep down thinking they can’t catch them so why bother?
Most, if not all of these players, won't be missed. I don't see an issue here.
Literally 6 days ago.
If our dressing room is such a mess, what is the point of Mata? I thought he was getting about 100k to make sure the dressing room would be good at all times.
Only once, against Burnley. Hate to use old cliches again but it really feels like we are waiting for a moment of individual brilliance in most of his games.
There's no difference to me. We have also been getting results wolves was the first loss.
The Liverpool and City games prove there is no difference.
It's the players who want to high press versus the players who don't.
You don't understand the terminology of clique. That much is evident.
It's a group of people who are collaborative. Constantly WhatsApping the feck out of it. And prolly have their wife's on only fans.
Or a group of underwhelming fecks complaining why they aren't the flavour of the week/month.
Tell that to the Liverpool fans would have been calling for Klöpp’s head when he first signed for them!
6 weeks is far too early to be calling for any manager’s head. Especially when one week involved no training opportunities and the weeks since have involved games every 3/4 days.
I just think we need to be patient. We rushed giving Ole a contract based on cab over-reaction. Over-reacting in the opposite direction now doesn’t solve anything.
He’s here until the summer and as far as I am concerned, if he highlights the ‘bad apples’ and we improve the so be it.
You don’t undo 5 years of mismanagement and poor tactics in 6 weeks
Don't look at the results that's your mistake, look at the performances and if you think the performance at Spurs say winning 3-0 was the same as the 1-0 at Norwich then well enough said
Sounds like they're all members of the Caf
Sounds like they're all members of the Caf
The squad is a shit mish mash of players from different regimes. Some of the current set of players have been here for 2 years, some 4 years, some 6 years and others the full 9 years.
What I do know is that not once have we even been close to challenging for the biggest honours, regardless of whether we're looking at a 2, 4, 6 or 9 year timeline.
I remember it well, a classic match! Rangnick in.
You have decided to pick one out of what 18 matches. Are you serious? If we don't have one performance as good as spurs in 18 matches then sure. Until then there is clearly no difference in the performances.
Liverpool at home for example is the worse loss I've witnessed in recent history.
It shouldn’t matter how big a star you are carry out the managers orders or dont play .
I would rather the youth play than a group of over rated sulking millionaires,
the training is probably too hard for them to get used to pressing if it is leave .
I would rather the youth play than a group of over rated sulking millionaires,
the training is probably too hard for them to get used to pressing if it is leave .
I only wait from Ralf at the end of the season he has a strong words with the board and clear out all these players. I am not waiting for any win I just want to see players who not moaning and happy to wear this club badge.
Can we be any worse!
Can we be any worse!
I'm picking an example of a winning performance under Ole when things were bad to a winning performance under RR. The result may be the same but the performance in both games were chalk and cheese
Again we’ve had minimal amount of actual training sessions. And 2 of those weeks we had the training ground closed/could only train in small groups. He was also made official on the 2nd of December. So not 6 weeks.
I am available if United want to sign me. I can barely run or kick a football but I can do a great smelly turd that will disrupt any dressing room.
Thats not the same though is it. We have other wins yet you didn't pick any of them. You picked one of only two good performances in 18 matches. Not any of the rubbish matches in between.
We clearly haven't got into any rhythm yet so how is that a comparison? Let's compare how we have actually played this season with both managers.
It is already disrupted enough, you dropping a nuke in there would be the final blow.
There wasn’t and yet they were considerably better than we’ve seen under Rangnick bar 30 minutes in his first game. We were also scoring more goals.
You said to me you see no difference in the performances in the games we got results in under RR to those we did under Ole. I'm saying there clearly is. I'm not arguing both have/did serve up mass amounts of rubbish as well
Jurgen Klopp was a title winning manager. Rangnick isn’t. When you have pedigree you get more leeway. We also have a much better squad than Klopp inherited.
I wasn’t the one who mentioned 6 weeks initially. If you’re happy with progress that’s up to you. We aren’t going to change each other’s minds.
But your sample size doesn't make sense. We have 6 games under Ralf. Even performance wise the first half against Palace is our best since the beginning of the season against Leeds. So your point doesn't even make sense.
Can we have their stuff when they leave?
All that unsold Jlingz underwear, you mean?