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Barthez

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Needs to be sold. Can’t remember the last time he had a good game.
 

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No one has an agenda against rashford. People are calling it as they see it.

Out of form you say ? Last time he was in semi decent form was in 2020 and were in 2022!
He's had a serious back injury and the team has fallen apart since then.

And just to let you know he got 33 goal involvements last season too. Not too shabby at all from the left.
 

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Needs to be sold. Can’t remember the last time he had a good game.
no, he isn’t finished - hopefully. He is 24 years old and is considered experienced at this age given that he started playing for the first team at a very young age. He scored 20+ goals in the last couple of seasons. Why sell him for a dip in form? Let’s sell the full squad then, they are all below par now.

he is very short on confidence and he needs to focus to restore that. The tactics since rangnick got appointed aren’t helping him also. History has proven that he is not a pure striker, he shouldn’t be played there. Also, the role behind the strikers (what rangnick has asked him to do in other games) is also not his. He plays best when he is on the left. I don’t want to go into the 4222 formation which has it’s own thread, but that set up will not help - just like a lot of players in this team.

nonetheless, there is a lot of work on him. He needs to show the passion expected from someone playing for his boyhood club. He needs to put in the extra effort. He currently looks too frustrated
 

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Did he have excuses before his injury :lol:

He literally had an injury and was playing through it and these :wenger: fans said it was an excuse just because he was playing through it :lol:

2 months later after his operation and when no one in the whole squad is in any form except De Gea, apparently it is still an excuse that's being made for Rashford!

"Excuses" are only happening for 2 months. The excuses when he had a back injury wasn't an excuse - it was a back injury.:rolleyes:
Injuries don't affect decision-making, only physical ability. When Rashford was playing through injury with painkillers the problem was never "he's lost a yard of pace" or "he can't get past that fullback" or "He's always behind in or conters" - it was "why is he trying to dribble through 4 defenders and kicking the ball at shins?" and "why didn't he pass that to the open teammate?" or "why is he shooting from 35 yards?"
 

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no, he isn’t finished - hopefully. He is 24 years old and is considered experienced at this age given that he started playing for the first team at a very young age. He scored 20+ goals in the last couple of seasons. Why sell him for a dip in form? Let’s sell the full squad then, they are all below par now.

he is very short on confidence and he needs to focus to restore that. The tactics since rangnick got appointed aren’t helping him also. History has proven that he is not a pure striker, he shouldn’t be played there. Also, the role behind the strikers (what rangnick has asked him to do in other games) is also not his. He plays best when he is on the left. I don’t want to go into the 4222 formation which has it’s own thread, but that set up will not help - just like a lot of players in this team.

nonetheless, there is a lot of work on him. He needs to show the passion expected from someone playing for his boyhood club. He needs to put in the extra effort. He currently looks too frustrated
That’s the key point isn’t it? His “dip in form” has lasted more than a season. A follow-up, will you be okay him at this current form/level for another 1 full season? 2 seasons? 3 seasons?
To me he has not shown anything during this “di that he knows/can come out of this slump.
 

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That’s the key point isn’t it? His “dip in form” has lasted more than a season. A follow-up, will you be okay him at this current form/level for another 1 full season? 2 seasons? 3 seasons?
To me he has not shown anything during this “di that he knows/can come out of this slump.
i’d rather we get rid of players who have no potential to improve and those who have really been terrible for more than a season. Again, marcus scored 20+ in his last 2 seasons. The whole team is below par, i just feel with proper guidance and him applying more efforts, he’ll come good
 

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i’d rather we get rid of players who have no potential to improve and those who have really been terrible for more than a season. Again, marcus scored 20+ in his last 2 seasons. The whole team is below par, i just feel with proper guidance and him applying more efforts, he’ll come good
, you get no argument from me on getting rid of players who have no potential to improve. Where we differ is , I’d put Rashford in that list. I have seen evidence from the likes of Greenwood, Bruno to name a few, that they can improve their form. Even during his 20+ goal seasons, i always saw flaws/doubts about his overall ceiling. I am not an expert but just expressing that I see nothing from Rashford which suggests he will be a world class player and this is just a temporary dip in form.
 

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His work rate is put in the shade by a 37 year old Ronaldo. He’s the embodiment of how far standards have dropped over last few years. The excuses will never end.
 

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- post a picture of himself in a united kit when younger

- talk the same regurgitated bollocks as always.
 

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, you get no argument from me on getting rid of players who have no potential to improve. Where we differ is , I’d put Rashford in that list. I have seen evidence from the likes of Greenwood, Bruno to name a few, that they can improve their form. Even during his 20+ goal seasons, i always saw flaws/doubts about his overall ceiling. I am not an expert but just expressing that I see nothing from Rashford which suggests he will be a world class player and this is just a temporary dip in form.
i hope you’re wrong - i’m sure you’d like to be proven wrong too.

for me, 20+ goals a season, while not in top form as you said, is an indication of a quality player.

the squad is in a bad place now, need it to improve altogether and hope marcus can improve too
 

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That’s the key point isn’t it? His “dip in form” has lasted more than a season. A follow-up, will you be okay him at this current form/level for another 1 full season? 2 seasons? 3 seasons?
To me he has not shown anything during this “di that he knows/can come out of this slump.
He’s still young à la Lingard.
 

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i hope you’re wrong - i’m sure you’d like to be proven wrong too.

for me, 20+ goals a season, while not in top form as you said, is an indication of a quality player.

the squad is in a bad place now, need it to improve altogether and hope marcus can improve too
Question is, what’s the timeline you are looking for?
pro sports has what 10-12 years of shelf life, we have been stuck in a neutral gear for almost a decade now. I dont care if academy players bring us a title or non-academy. This “long rope” approach isn’t working in modern times, and we need to roll with who can perform today rather than 2 years from now.
i also think that Rashford form is more similar to running backs in NFL.RBs rely on physical prowess and once they start a dip they never recover. See Ezikiel of cowboys. Rashford never showed me that he will grow his football intelligence, relied on physical attributes; and no injury incidents are challenging my claim.
Net-net; if we want to win the title again , and adopt Fergies real management skill (ruthless + pragmatism) then Rashford has to go (obviously along with other non-performing players)
 

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What a lot of hot air. Maybe you should stop trying to take the whole opposition team on, Marcus. Why don't you start with the basics?
 

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One of those, if he speaks "why aren't you showing it on the pitch", if he doesn't "he's one of those that isn't committed."

Not sure what people expect.
It's a lose/lose for him. A lot of people won't be happy, until he shows better form on the pitch. I think that's fair enough. Personally, I'd still prefer our players to say something publicly at this point. The things being said in the press doesn't make them look good. Most of the fans won't back them any more.
 

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On the ball, can't fault his effort; since he's been back he has always tried to drive the ball forward and get to the oppo's box as quickly as possible.

Difference is the outcome of these efforts have been wasteful 9/10. Teams know how to defend him by doubling up, as they know he is more likely to attempt the dribble past rather than look to another player.

He has been most effective in past seasons when we were on the break, with space to run into and not when we are slowly building up play. We are being much more possessioned based since Rangnick is in, and it results in 10 men behind the ball for a lot of the time we are in their half.

If he is going to rediscover his form, he first of all needs to cut this notion he can always dribble past the RB, because that player will have someone supporting him and he's getting snuffed out a lot. He needs to utilise Shaw more, who does make himself available a lot when attacking and is a good player for 1-2 plays.

I do think this thread has gone a bit OTT, wanting him out etc. I don't rate what hes providing for us now, but prior to this massive dip he was an effective player, and a smarter one than he is today so needs to reset and get back to basics really.
 

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Question is, what’s the timeline you are looking for?
pro sports has what 10-12 years of shelf life, we have been stuck in a neutral gear for almost a decade now. I dont care if academy players bring us a title or non-academy. This “long rope” approach isn’t working in modern times, and we need to roll with who can perform today rather than 2 years from now.
i also think that Rashford form is more similar to running backs in NFL.RBs rely on physical prowess and once they start a dip they never recover. See Ezikiel of cowboys. Rashford never showed me that he will grow his football intelligence, relied on physical attributes; and no injury incidents are challenging my claim.
Net-net; if we want to win the title again , and adopt Fergies real management skill (ruthless + pragmatism) then Rashford has to go (obviously along with other non-performing players)
This deserves a like.
 

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He's had a serious back injury and the team has fallen apart since then.

And just to let you know he got 33 goal involvements last season too. Not too shabby at all from the left.
Its going to be nearly 2 years out of form. How many years more are you going to wait till he gets back into form ?

1 year ? 2 years ? 5 years ? 10 years ?

How much time should a club like man utd wait for a player ? Is any one player bigger than the club ?
 

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Its going to be nearly 2 years out of form. How many years more are you going to wait till he gets back into form ?

1 year ? 2 years ? 5 years ? 10 years ?

How much time should a club like man utd wait for a player ? Is any one player bigger than the club ?
Have asked this before, usually to crickets.

We all want to see a revival of the Marcus in the avatar above but it just ain’t gonna happen ever. Time to start planning beyond him & soon.
 

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When a player is 24 and his best performance are two years behind him that’s something that should set alarm bells ringing. I think some have a hard time decoupling the player everyone was convinced he’d become with the player he actually is.
 

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He needs to lift his head when he is running with the ball and stop running down blind alleys.
Show some football IQ and ease up on the Mother Therese act as his main job is a Manchester United footballer.
 

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When a player is 24 and his best performance are two years behind him that’s something that should set alarm bells ringing. I think some have a hard time decoupling the player everyone was convinced he’d become with the player he actually is.
Plus they can’t decouple from the non-football Rashford.
 

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Plus they can’t decouple from the non-football Rashford.
Fair. But his PR game is immense. Aside even from his charity work he’s released more memorable statements over the last year defending himself against criticisms of his performances than he has had good performances.

A classic example of a player who should be told to concentrate on his game but is probably at the point where being told such would be an intolerable affront to his ego .
 

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Good words from Rashford. He's obviously dedicated to prove his worth for the club. I'm happy to read this lines.

I just hope he picks up form soon.
The treatment he's receiving from the fanbase at the moment is over the top imo.
 

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Have asked this before, usually to crickets.

We all want to see a revival of the Marcus in the avatar above but it just ain’t gonna happen ever. Time to start planning beyond him & soon.
Also, this attitude puts a marker down for everyone. We believe in developing our own but if you don’t then we will show you out. Period. And tbh, I have no issues with his generous activities off the pitch, I admire his willingness to help those who need it.
 

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Him and Maguire coming out... when will they learn that the best thing to do when getting slammed by the fans and media is to get your heads down, shut your trap and play your way back into form. Words no longer cut the mustard.
 

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Loving how Marcus & Harry spoke out, so some of you better shut up for a while and let them do their thing to get our form back.
 

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One of those, if he speaks "why aren't you showing it on the pitch", if he doesn't "he's one of those that isn't committed."

Not sure what people expect.
Him walking the talk surely, if he was average but working his socks off most would understand but just putting a statement isn't enough.
 

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I've been a big fan of Rashford's since he broke through but, if the rumors are true about his attitude in dressing room then he has to go simple as. Would obviously prefer if that isn't the case thought, as I think he's our second most talented player after Greenwood.
 

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Question is, what’s the timeline you are looking for?
pro sports has what 10-12 years of shelf life, we have been stuck in a neutral gear for almost a decade now. I dont care if academy players bring us a title or non-academy. This “long rope” approach isn’t working in modern times, and we need to roll with who can perform today rather than 2 years from now.
i also think that Rashford form is more similar to running backs in NFL.RBs rely on physical prowess and once they start a dip they never recover. See Ezikiel of cowboys. Rashford never showed me that he will grow his football intelligence, relied on physical attributes; and no injury incidents are challenging my claim.
Net-net; if we want to win the title again , and adopt Fergies real management skill (ruthless + pragmatism) then Rashford has to go (obviously along with other non-performing players)
sancho was supposed to perform today. Bruno is supposed to perform today. But they aren’t. Not because they are not good players, it’s because the whole system isn’t working. I think we’ll just agree to disagree on selling him. But we surely agree that s long as he stays he needs to up his game
 
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