Maybe I'm a dinosaur but all those handshakes you mention... I find them so cringyDo not forget one very important thing in football. Every player has different secret hand shake with every other player. How many hours of training needed to get it done right, I wonder.
"Up to 11 players now want to leave United after becoming disillusioned with life at the club."
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Even though he isn’t pulling up trees, Rangnick’s interim period will benefit him in his next role as he’s seeing first hand the absolute state of the club and it’s players. There’s a whole lot of work to be done to rebuild this club.
Can we at least refrain from critisizing people based on rumours? If we do extend Mata, by all means, go ham on them.
Why are we trying to keep players we don't want? What's the point in asking VDB and Henderson to stay when they barely play? It's one of the reasons we have a terrible dressing room.
Those who want to leave should be allowed to leave as soon as possible, even on loan. We can then promote youth players until we sign replacements, and it won't make a difference since those players aren't playing anyway. At least it'd help the dressing room a bit.
Those who want to leave should be allowed to leave as soon as possible, even on loan. We can then promote youth players until we sign replacements, and it won't make a difference since those players aren't playing anyway. At least it'd help the dressing room a bit.
Yeah, this exactly. I can easily imagine 11 players in this squad that want out (providing that they don't financially suffer mind), and we'd be better off without them. There's a lot of players at the club that aren't good enough for the level we want to be at (sadly not all of those will be wanting to leave) and then there's those that can't handle the challenge either.
I suspect its the financial aspect stopping them from leaving. No other club would offer them silly high contacts like we have. Otherwise they would be out the door.
If this is true then imo Ralf should resign asap.
You don't get what I actually mean mate.
What's the point hiring Ralf if the board still make that kind of decision.
I wouldn’t believe them but you can’t blame fans for falling for it when club has a strong record for making such decisions.
I do, but Ralf isn't in charge of transfers and neither was Ole it seems after the VDB situation.
Ronaldo wasn't an Ole signing either.
This is the whole point of having a technical director or whatever messed up version United are going with.
United keep throwing contracts at people for no logical reason.
That's a board decision not managers, especially since Ole has been there.
You still don't get what I mean mate
I didn't blame Ralf for the slightest if that is true. And I know our managers don't have a big say in transfers after Mourinho.
What I mean was Ralf should resign asap because if the board is that stupid he'd only waste his time and ruin his reputation here.
You still don't get what I mean mate
I didn't blame Ralf for the slightest if that is true. And I know our managers didn't have a big say in transfers after Mourinho.
What I mean was Ralf should resign asap because if the board is that stupid he'd only waste his time and ruin his reputation here.
Not really, because the logic would be, give Mata one more year as a squad player, then move him into the coaching setup.
But Mata wants to play football, and probably feels going elsewhere will give him 2 years of regular football maybe in Spain somewhere.
Nah, I get that, but it doesn't help this forum one bit when posters do that. Should be able to think rationally.
Have to say that bringing in a failed MLS manager in the shape of Chris Armas as assistant coach beggars belief. Having Darren Fletcher on the coaching team with zero experience is also totally baffling.
Complaints of overweighted squad, yet we had to put 2 goalkeepers on the bench to make up numbers yesterday. Why did we not bring one or two youngsters into squad.
He should have got his proper assistant, however Lokomotiv wouldn't let him go
I can absolutely believe it.
When you sign up Phil Jones, who everybody knows will play very few games if any, they'll sign anybody.
And as for why Mata declined - perhaps he felt sorry for the fools who are offering contracts to everybody.
It's like saleman who agrees to sell a chocolate teapot to a grandma for £200. After the deal is struck, he feels sorry for the old lady and just walks away, telling her that the chocolate teapots have now sold out.
Remember, Matt Judge and the top brass at MUFC are absolute baffoons.
Gym training should not be seen as "extra work".
I work in an office and for the last few months I've been putting in 3hr+ session. It's for myself...not my employer.
In the same way, professional players should see extra training sessions as a way to further improve themselves and not as part of their job.
Being super fit will generally improve their form (especially when geggenpressing), which in turn will increase their value, which in turn could see them get a move to a more successful club.
Its the equivalent of telling a kid to do extra study in the evenings. Why? It's not a requirement. But if he wants to get the very top grades, he'll have to do it.
Firstly, we don't know for sure if any of the players have home gyms. I would suspect not. Logically, it would make sense, but so many things about this club have me in disbelief that I believe that the club's employees all follow the opposite of the logical decision.
Secondly, a home gym cannot compete with a fully equipped gym with multiple machines, racks and other equipment.
If you train at home for 1 week, then attend a fully equipped commercial gym, you'll instantly realise the value of a commercial gym (or in this case, the gym at Carrington).
Well, we play like absolute crap. In long periods of matches, we can barely string more than 3 passes together. We get tired after geggenpressing for 30 minutes. Whatever the players are doing isn't working and they should perhaps adopt the strategy that the GOAT uses.
If I were a player who is looking to improve himself, I'd copy what the GOAT does. If the GOAT says that he is doing gym training after on-pitch training today, I'm copying him.
I won't become the GOAT, but by copying him, I'll probably improve a heck of a lot.
The only players who may benefit from imitating Ronaldo would be Rashford and arguably Greenwood because they could be stylistically similar to him. However, guys like Fred and Bruno aren't going to benefit from packing on muscle- they would benefit more from training tactically or outdoors with the ball at their feet.
I 100% agree that all players should be trying to emulate his professionalism but very few players would actually benefit from copying his training directly. I'd imagine the likes of Messi, Iniesta, Modric etc all train/trained hard but probably not by doing 5 hour gym sessions after mandatory training.
Swear Ronaldo's looks quite basic and is in his garage?
What? He wants Arsenal to buy them?
I said it would get worse if Ole left, looks like it’s happening quicker than I thought.
Basically anyone who isn’t a good man manager will get crucified, when someone u like gets sacked the next man is on a losing battle.
Basically anyone who isn’t a good man manager will get crucified, when someone u like gets sacked the next man is on a losing battle.
Ian Wrong
Hahhahhaa
Agreed. People just speculate about rumours and transfers and 90% comes to nothing but we never learn.
When a club does badly, practically any criticism is valid even if it doesn't make any sense.
You still don't get what I mean mate
I didn't blame Ralf for the slightest if that is true. And I know our managers don't have a big say in transfers after Mourinho.
What I mean was Ralf should resign asap because if the board is that stupid he'd only waste his time and ruin his reputation here.
He's an interim manager. He probably shouldn't have a say on transfers.
So some overpaid primadonnas who whine and cant cope when things get rough want out; well, we Supporters dont have that luxury and personally Ive no time for anybody with this selfish, whinging attitude, player or supporter! Perhaps if these cry babies tried as hard on the pitch as they do on their social media sites, or in checking their inflated pay checks, we wouldnt be in the position we're in and they might actually find they enjoy the honour and priviledge of playing for Manchester United; but if they want to go, OK; Manchester United will continue without them and hopefully the players who replace them will be better equipped and better adjusted to cope with the pressures of playing for one of the biggest and best Clubs on the planet!
Hahahaha. This is dead on.
This is a good point actually which I've never really thought of in depth.
Having someone on the board who's been right in the thick of it and knows the personality of each current player.
I thought that's exactly why he's been brought in for the interim role, to see first hand the dressing room and questionable attitudes and mentalitys up close.
Perfect he then goes upstairs and works alongside Murtogh to then proceed to move those identified on. Pretty obvious to me who will be moved on.
Martial
AWB
Pogba
Bailly
Henderson
Lingaard
And possibly Rashford if he doesn't buck his ideas and flouncing about out.
I think you are giving the club far too much credit. I can't help but feel like they are just paying lip service to Rangnicks role and modernising the club. Like someone who says that they want your honest opinion but when they receive it they don't like it and ignore you.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Rangnick doesn't last long in his role behind the scenes because of the complete mess the club is in from top to bottom. I don't think he will be allowed to do what he wants, I think the high ups will still meddle in the football and I think they will still demand signings that fit their marketing profile over players that gel on the pitch.
I expect Rangnick to be gone within a year and a half from now at most.
Bravo and well said sir.
Two wrongs dont make a Wright
How you start to fix the mess we have in our squad.
Martial > Elanga
Lingard > Shoretire
Mata > Amad
Pogba > Hannibal
Matic > Garner
AWB/Dalot > Laird
Bailly > Mengi
Replace them with young, hungry players with a point to prove. Don't care what anyone says. That's as good a place as any to start fixing the club.
Martial > Elanga
Lingard > Shoretire
Mata > Amad
Pogba > Hannibal
Matic > Garner
AWB/Dalot > Laird
Bailly > Mengi
Replace them with young, hungry players with a point to prove. Don't care what anyone says. That's as good a place as any to start fixing the club.
I think there are many players at lots of clubs that are pissed off at there clubs but the difference is, they don't provide column inches, clicks or interest in general. I'm sure there are many of us who are pissed off in our jobs for many reasons. If I'm honest, I'm not surprised. There are the financial gains from playing for Utd, but when things are great, not sure they'd pay me enough to have to live with that level of negativity. Some of the things wrote about Martial, Harry etc from so called fans is vile.....