If politicians (who are more important) can be corrupted, then for sure officials of a game can be corrupted as well.
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Newcastle United
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Some have pointed to us becoming a PLC because of greed that started the ball rolling.
That was not the problem.
The FA must have the final say about football people being in charge.
In our case the football board had no power.
Instead we were turned into a 'Disneyland' . A Francise. The words Football Club were removed.
Edwards 'butchered'
the supporters who made the family wealthy.As for the futile attempts to deny Newcastle, players by the other clubs. Its laughable.
Even if they get relegated they can get a top manager and top players. They will be back the following season and will have 3 top teams who will win everything.
Money talks.
going to be shite to be a football fan if they do what city do and employ all the right people to run the club. Can’t really argue with their business at the minute. Horrible though.
You're both kind of right here. The stadium could definitely be classified as a plus and I won't do any back patting about our fanbase, but I also won't disagree
However, while I don't recall what City's training facilities, scouting and academy were like at the time of their takeover, there's no way we're ahead on that score at this moment. All those areas all need major investment. Very neglected during the Ashley era.
I'd say we have as much, if not more work to do than City did, just in different areas.
In a fecked up way it could actually help them.
Winning can quickly become a habit even if it's being done in a lower league to begin with.
City were a midtable team when taken over, with money being poured in already, Newcastle are relegation threatened after years of mismanagement.
The ground and fanbase means nothing to how the club has been run the past decade.
Yeah, this is what I was getting at, the mismanagement under Ashley has left the club in a bit of a mess from the top down, City were actually in a reasonable state when taken over with money being poured in already.You're both kind of right here. The stadium could definitely be classified as a plus and I won't do any back patting about our fanbase, but I also won't disagree
However, while I don't recall what City's training facilities, scouting and academy were like at the time of their takeover, there's no way we're ahead on that score at this moment. All those areas all need major investment. Very neglected during the Ashley era.
I'd say we have as much, if not more work to do than City did, just in different areas.
Yet it means a hell of a lot about their prospects in the next decade. They’re actually a far more appealing prospect for a sports washing prospect than City. Their “brand” is much stronger. On-field problems are easily fixed by throwing cash at them. Heritage can’t be bought.
No better than yours. Probably worse. It was all completely overhauled after they were taken over.You're both kind of right here. The stadium could definitely be classified as a plus and I won't do any back patting about our fanbase, but I also won't disagree
However, while I don't recall what City's training facilities, scouting and academy were like at the time of their takeover, there's no way we're ahead on that score at this moment. All those areas all need major investment. Very neglected during the Ashley era.
I'd say we have as much, if not more work to do than City did, just in different areas.
City were already in their new ground by the time of the take over, had Sven as manager, the went to Mark Hughes, it was only the owners assets being frozen that led to them not being able to splash the cash again, which in turn led to them being taken over as they are now.
City's squad before they were taken over was healthy too, in comparison to Newcastle's currently it was far superior. I think some revisionist history has taken place into thinking City were a relegation survivor before takeover, they weren't, they were on an upward curve before the takeover, unlike Newcastle.
Which is the reason why i believe Newcastles ascendancy will take longer.
Ah. Ok. We’re talking about different timelines. I would put City’s transformation into a “sugar daddy club” as beginning well before the current owners got involved. So yeah, Newcastle won’t be successful as soon after this takeover as City were after their last one.
agree
When you talking then? City moved to the Etihad in 2003, Shinawatra didn't take over until 2007 and was only in charge just over a year I think.
Don't think I would call them a sugar daddy club before that. It was this year they bought the likes of Elano, Corluka & Martin Petrov.
Next summer they bought the likes of Jo, Wright Phillips & Kompany before the Mansour takeover, then that exploded with the likes of Robinho.
Yeah, it was Shinawatra I was thinking of. I thought they only moved to the Etihad after that takeover. In my head, the two were linked. If not, my bad.
To be fair, I had to look up the Shinawatra timeline as I thought he was ther for longer than the 15months he was there.
I thought it was about 2003 they moved to new stadium because it was built for the 2002 Commonwealth Games I'm sure.
Yeah, I do remember taking the piss out of them over their state-funded stadium. I just thought it was money from the takeover that gave them full ownership. Wasn’t it a temporary deal in the beginning? If not, I guess that was an added appeal for the takeover.
we still don't own the ground, still leased off the council.
How many more times can I be wrong on a single page of a thread? Answers on a postcard please!
Finally got the lifetime award and you're slacking already. Only downhil from here. You're the Adebayor of the caf.
tbf there was a lot of talk about us purchasing it but I'm assuming we couldn't fiddle the books so it didn't happen
Wood i think is poor, Trippier ok and this Guimaraes looks decent.
But i think its been a slightly embarrassing window for Newcastle, made a mockery by being rejected all over the place.
But i think its been a slightly embarrassing window for Newcastle, made a mockery by being rejected all over the place.
window's far from over, and every club is playing top trumps knowing Newcastle's needs. Be interesting to see if they stump up the extra, or stick to their guns and risk relegation.
Considering the transfers they have been trying to pull off in this window along with what they have actually pulled off of enticing players from big clubs in their respective leagues to join them whilst in relegation fight, if they stay up then I can easily see them transforming their squad in the summer window from being a bottom half team to a potential top 6 six challenger.... as long as they get in an actual manager as howe is championship level.
This Brazilian lad they've signed has always looked something of an outlier statistically. It will be interesting to see if that translates to good PL performances.
Can we sell greenwood to newcastle today at a discount for 50m ?
As far as the saudis are concerned he's one of their own regarding his attitude towards women.
As far as the saudis are concerned he's one of their own regarding his attitude towards women.
Guimaraes official to them. Sigh. Another team with a better midfield
Ekitike coming in from France now
So what we tracking for their total spend?
Trippier - £15m
Wood - £25m
Bruno - £45m
Etike - £25m
Dan burn - £13m
And some loan deals. So around £120m in a Jan window, a bit ludicirous for a club to be doing. This league is quickly become just about whose owner wants to pump more money into it.
Trippier - £15m
Wood - £25m
Bruno - £45m
Etike - £25m
Dan burn - £13m
And some loan deals. So around £120m in a Jan window, a bit ludicirous for a club to be doing. This league is quickly become just about whose owner wants to pump more money into it.
So his first day in England and he has already started mocking Arsenal
They're just throwing a load of shit at the wall and hoping something sticks. They've been targeting a ridiculous amount of players this window and hilariously been rejected for the most part.
They look daft, but unfortunately nobody will remember that if they manage to stay up.
Them getting relegated would be hilarious.
They look daft, but unfortunately nobody will remember that if they manage to stay up.
Them getting relegated would be hilarious.
Ha my new favorite playerSo his first day in England and he has already started mocking Arsenal
It has been like this for the past 15 years.
they could have spent £200m this window and complied with current FFP regulations, they're spending the money to stay up, this money will affect how much they can spend in the summer window
just be thankful they've got an average manager in at the moment and they could still go down
I bet it’s an interesting feeling seeing the mirror of your own club starting out?
it's weird but I think they're in a far worse position than we were, other thing is I worked there for 5 years from 2000-2005 so know a few decent people that work there and at the moment there isn't much direction, no real plan at the moment from what they can see which I'm assuming was the same at City but I don't know. Until they get proper football people in place it'll take a good few years to even get top 6 on a regular basis.
Sure it’s very early for them however I guess they don’t have time at the moment and just need to stay up and then assess things in the summer properly
How much is their FFP limit do you know? It's a certain amount you can spend over 3 years right?
As I recall it's linked to turnover, it's likely they do similar to City in the summer and sign loads of sponsorship deals with Saudi related companies.
Glad to see their fans lapping it up. ‘We love our owners’.
Sportwashing works.
Sportwashing works.
Good for Newcastle. I hope they stay up and spend some crazy money in the summer. The competition level in this league is amazing.