It was posted it in this very thread 3 years ago.
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He is clearly discussing the word itself in many of those clips, rather than calling people the n-word. Still, shouldn’t be saying it of course, but I think the Planet of the Apes and ‘different brain’ comments are actually worse.
I randomly threw on a new Rogan podcast the other week just to see what all the fuss was about, and he had Jordan Peterson as a guest.
My god what a constant stream of verbal garbage. Peterson genuinely seems borderline insane, and Rogan was agreeing with him mostly.
The racist remarks should really end his deal with Spotify. White brain and black body? What the actual feck.
The world is so depressing right now. United both on and off the pitch is a miserable experience to follow, trucker movements, Rogan earning millions spouting dangerous lies supported by corrupt homophobic world leaders. Inflation. Climate change. Etc.
The world is fecked.
My god what a constant stream of verbal garbage. Peterson genuinely seems borderline insane, and Rogan was agreeing with him mostly.
The racist remarks should really end his deal with Spotify. White brain and black body? What the actual feck.
The world is so depressing right now. United both on and off the pitch is a miserable experience to follow, trucker movements, Rogan earning millions spouting dangerous lies supported by corrupt homophobic world leaders. Inflation. Climate change. Etc.
The world is fecked.
The world really needs to do its own research.
You loved him back in the early racist days though.
Nah, the conspiracies, lies and bias would unravel then. There's a large portion of the world that has no interest in that, sadly.
He did ?
I randomly threw on a new Rogan podcast the other week just to see what all the fuss was about, and he had Jordan Peterson as a guest.
My god what a constant stream of verbal garbage. Peterson genuinely seems borderline insane, and Rogan was agreeing with him mostly.
The racist remarks should really end his deal with Spotify. White brain and black body? What the actual feck.
The world is so depressing right now. United both on and off the pitch is a miserable experience to follow, trucker movements, Rogan earning millions spouting dangerous lies supported by corrupt homophobic world leaders. Inflation. Climate change. Etc.
The world is fecked.
The first 20 minutes of that is absolutely hilarious.
Comparing Blacks to Apes, Insinuating the brains of black people to be inferior to white.
One of the first posts on here.
He redeems himself further down page one.
His fanboyism appears blunted now.
the Peterson episode is wild, he clearly isn't mentally well at the moment..
I'm surprised there isn't more talk about his comments on trans people in that episode, it was absolutely bonkers
I'm surprised there isn't more talk about his comments on trans people in that episode, it was absolutely bonkers
Peterson has become a parody of himself. Just going off on ever weirder tangents now.
I think he's overexposed now, and has veered far too much out of his lane.
But then that happens with many so-called intellectuals.
He pivoted ?
Still very popular though. Big huge tour worldwide that will earn him millions.
Peterson is just a bluffer on most subjects. Maybe he's a heavyweight in the Psychological field but a, lot of commentators say he wouldn't cut it on a practical level and is somewhat protected by his role as an academic.
Don't see it there. But if true, its pretty normal for people to evolve over time.
More popular than any actual intellectuals.
Yeah but so what, the demand for him is mostly organic anyway.
It's not as if he's pulling a huge con-trick on the thousands who pay to see him/read his book.
If it was Noam Chomsky I doubt there'd be the same issue.
Ah it's got a touch of snake oil salesman about it?
This is what i was saying to someone once. There is no way he can be an expert in all these different fields. Psychology, psychiatry, philosophy, sociology, politics, etc. All them fields then have sub fields.
He is a con artist really. But because he is such a good speaker, or was until he had to be hospitalized, he just sort of became famous.
What issue?
Noam speaks in lecture halls in Trinity in Dublin, Peterson plays the 3 Arena, that's what I said.
I encountered him first years ago when someone sent me links to his anti Marx rants and it was weird and drew me in. It was fascinating in the lack of substantive attacks on Marx and sounded as absurd and lacking in actual research to me as that shit show on climate on JRE there a few weeks back. Lots of keywords and half ideas but essentially a void.
I'm not saying that you're one of them, but many people seem to have an issue with the fact that Peterson gets the attention that he does, sells the number of books that he has etc.
Yeah, though Noam's one of those intellectuals who came to public prominence by veering out of his lane.
Is more of of the supposed begrudgery?
What do you mean about Chomsky?
His branching out from linguistics?
Noam has a body of impressive work that makes his existence on the fringe for so long quite as bewildering to me as Peterson's appeal.
Noam is the definitive voice on lots of things and is universally accepted as such by his peers. Peterson is a different animal.
I first saw him on that channel four interview with him, where the woman tries her utmost best to catch him out and he just starts laughing at her. "So what you are saying is...."
I dont hate him. I just dont agree with most of what he says.
Anyhow i think he is past his sell by date now.
I find him and his huge appeal to such a narrow audience really fascinating.
Narrow audience? He gets dozens of millions of views on Youtube. I think the Cathy Newman interview alone is over 30 million and the GQ interview over 40 million.
Huge audience, narrow demographics
I'd say so yeah. At least partly anyway.
Yeah. In other words had he remained solely in the field of linguistics he wouldn't have become publicly known at all, given that it's a very narrow field of interest.
I like his critique on many things, the media and foreign affairs especially.
His existence on the fringe however doesn't surprise me when it comes to his economic musings.
Those interviews only served to massively increase his popularity, the Cathy Newman one especially.
It was one of those significant moments where the TV media consensus was punctured. Someone (can't remember who) described it as like a glitch in the matrix, which seemed apt to me at the time.
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I think the begrudgery angle is a bit dismissive, there's lot's of detailed criticism. It may not be right but I think it's mostly actual ideological disagreement. But maybe you are right.
Gone from youtube
, but he went on Alex jones in the mid-00s. This is also how I remember it:
I saw on reddit one day chomskey selling tickets to some lecture of his for 300 dollars.
Gone from youtube
Anarchism and US libertarians have huge overlaps though fundamentally disagreeing on causation and solutions.