fergieisold
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That’s as bad as it’s been post fergie that second half.
If you think subs are this club's problem, there's no helping you. The squad is broken. Was never even right to bevin with.Those subs were fecking awful. There’s no excusing that.
You not remember liverpool at home?That’s as bad as it’s been post fergie that second half.
Every scout at this club needs sacking tomorrow morning!Wasted half a billion for this pathetic squad.
On paper some of our signings are very good but we have no idea how to use them. A lot of our wastes with a Klopp or Guardiola would be 10 times the playersEvery scout at this club needs sacking tomorrow morning!
Moyes had better playersPerformances were better under Moyes than this.
Giving the reins to a sporting director from some russian club was always going to be a gamble.People laughed at me for suggesting Boro was worse than Liverpool at home, but it’s just a continuation of what we’ve seen all season, except we came up against the most clinical team in the league for the 5-0.
The club is in massive trouble.
Nail firmly hit on the head - well done!Its the worst because we are stuck with average players on huge contracts who haven't won any trophies. We overhype academy players and prematurely reward them with big contracts and make them undroppable.
I'm talking about players like Rashford, Lingard, Mctominay. These players should have been sold years ago but the fans are complicit in enabling this living in the past romanticism fantasy land where every young player that comes through the ranks will eventually be good enough even if they consistently fail we just have to give them chance after chance. When City, Chelsea have had many young prospects hyped up, but when they don't perform in the first team they get rid. It's the same with standard transfers. Just look at what happened with Kepa. Most expensive goalkeeper yet when started flopping was dropped and Mendy brought in.
Then there is this British obsession with english players like AWB and Maguire, buying them for premium value when there are cheaper foriegn counterparts and we are trying to do the same with Rice in the summer
And of course the big issue with the owners who are not football people more concerned with the commercial aspect of the club than footballing matters. It's why we've kept deadwood like Lingard, mata, matic, fred,(who will soon get a new contract) and Jones because we're more concerned with keeping them as assets rather than cutting our losses.
The chickens are coming home to roost, we are paying for bad decisions from top to bottom, backing sub par managers who don't have the qualifications to do a rebuild given free reign for 3 years to do as he pleases with 400 million while toeing the party line of trying to recreate the past of the United Way instead of bringing people with expertise and the right CV to modernise the club and move away from this archaic obsession of having british born academy passion merchants who ironically lose all passion and sense of pride once prematurely rewarded with big contracts.
Sums it up nicely but nothing is going to change, club is still full of people who are complicit and have contributed to this mess. All the players mentioned will get a fresh start next season, Martial will be brought back and referred to as being like a new signing, we’ll repeat the cycle because admitting the truth means people having to be accountable.Its the worst because we are stuck with average players on huge contracts who haven't won any trophies. We overhype academy players and prematurely reward them with big contracts and make them undroppable.
I'm talking about players like Rashford, Lingard, Mctominay. These players should have been sold years ago but the fans are complicit in enabling this living in the past romanticism fantasy land where every young player that comes through the ranks will eventually be good enough even if they consistently fail we just have to give them chance after chance. When City, Chelsea have had many young prospects hyped up, but when they don't perform in the first team they get rid. It's the same with standard transfers. Just look at what happened with Kepa. Most expensive goalkeeper yet when started flopping was dropped and Mendy brought in.
Then there is this British obsession with english players like AWB and Maguire, buying them for premium value when there are cheaper foriegn counterparts and we are trying to do the same with Rice in the summer
And of course the big issue with the owners who are not football people more concerned with the commercial aspect of the club than footballing matters. It's why we've kept deadwood like Lingard, mata, matic, fred,(who will soon get a new contract) and Jones because we're more concerned with keeping them as assets rather than cutting our losses.
The chickens are coming home to roost, we are paying for bad decisions from top to bottom, backing sub par managers who don't have the qualifications to do a rebuild given free reign for 3 years to do as he pleases with 400 million while toeing the party line of trying to recreate the past of the United Way instead of bringing people with expertise and the right CV to modernise the club and move away from this archaic obsession of having british born academy passion merchants who ironically lose all passion and sense of pride once prematurely rewarded with big contracts.
Yeah definitely is as this lot are a total bunch of moaning whingebags most of the timeWe’ve been poor before, but this is another level. I’ve never felt so unattached to our squad as I do right now.
There is no desire or fight in them. There is no team ethic. Moany arseholes who leak information because Ralf called them out. Cavani deciding when he wants to play, palyers when after chipping a toenail decided to feck off on holiday and not stick around and support their colleagues. Bunch of overpaid and self indulgent arsebandits.
so much for this cultural reboot Gary Neville and co labelled our previous management brought, it’s worse now than when Jose left.
Many here would pay to play for this club, live and breath it - breaks us to see these moany gits wear the jersey.
This isn’t about not competing for titles, this is simply about players clearly not giving their all. Shameful stuff.
We seem to say this ten times a season.That’s as bad as it’s been post fergie that second half.
Yeah with Moyes, felt like it was more of a manager issue, and that once we got the next manager things would get better. Whereas now, it's hard to even be optimistic for the future as the club is a complete shambles from top to bottom.This team is giving us no reason for optimism, therefore how can it not be the worst that it's been, at least under Moyes there were winners in that team albeit past their peak.
That's easy, $$$. As long as Glazers and JPM continue to see the cash roll in they will not really see any issues. I shudder to think about what will happen once the money stops coming in. That level of debt with no way to service it... We're one (maybe two) bad financial season(s) away from having to start carving up the clubs assets, or worse administration.I could put this more bluntly, but I’ll bite my tongue.
I have no idea what the values of Manchester United, as an organisation, as a team, from the moment they walked out at the Etihad until they left the pitch. The most minimal and vapid gesture to wider world events, that even Russia and China would probably let past their censors, to a team that can only ever turn up for 45 minutes at best, regularly letting the very best sides just dominate and toy with them.
What’s our sporting vision? What do Manchester United stand for? What is the bare minimum that the United players should give each and every week?
Couldn't have put it any better myselfYeah with Moyes, felt like it was more of a manager issue, and that once we got the next manager things would get better. Whereas now, it's hard to even be optimistic for the future as the club is a complete shambles from top to bottom.
Well said.Its the worst because we are stuck with average players on huge contracts who haven't won any trophies. We overhype academy players and prematurely reward them with big contracts and make them undroppable.
I'm talking about players like Rashford, Lingard, Mctominay. These players should have been sold years ago but the fans are complicit in enabling this living in the past romanticism fantasy land where every young player that comes through the ranks will eventually be good enough even if they consistently fail we just have to give them chance after chance. When City, Chelsea have had many young prospects hyped up, but when they don't perform in the first team they get rid. It's the same with standard transfers. Just look at what happened with Kepa. Most expensive goalkeeper yet when started flopping was dropped and Mendy brought in.
Then there is this British obsession with english players like AWB and Maguire, buying them for premium value when there are cheaper foriegn counterparts and we are trying to do the same with Rice in the summer
And of course the big issue with the owners who are not football people more concerned with the commercial aspect of the club than footballing matters. It's why we've kept deadwood like Lingard, mata, matic, fred,(who will soon get a new contract) and Jones because we're more concerned with keeping them as assets rather than cutting our losses.
The chickens are coming home to roost, we are paying for bad decisions from top to bottom, backing sub par managers who don't have the qualifications to do a rebuild given free reign for 3 years to do as he pleases with 400 million while toeing the party line of trying to recreate the past of the United Way instead of bringing people with expertise and the right CV to modernise the club and move away from this archaic obsession of having british born academy passion merchants who ironically lose all passion and sense of pride once prematurely rewarded with big contracts.
We also came back stronger and better finishing 3rd to QPR and Liverpool I think. Doc would have won us the title I think, if he hadnt dilly dallied with Mary Brown!I am old enough to remember the relegation season. We were bad then but I honestly don’t think we got outclassed as much as this year.
At least the lads in the red shirts fought for the shirt then.