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I think thats unfair on Lingard. He is good on the ball and he would be good enough for a top premier league team if he played every week like he did for West Ham last season. But he has never managed that at UnitedFunny, reminds me of what we used to hear about Lingard. "Great without the ball"
No wonder we struggle to do anything with the ball when we're training academy lads to play better without it
I genuinely don’t think it was intentional. Wouldn’t go along with how well he spoke. He was clearly touching his nose a lot just as a bit of awkwardness.Do we think his middle finger nose scratching was on purpose during his post match interview?
Looked blatant to me!
Suprised me that he didnt get a yellow, he was mad when Cancello tried to do a trick (the moment he shouted at Cancello near the corner flag) so i fully expected him to get a yellow card after that. The 'revenge' and show that he has passion type of yellow. McT isnt good enough so he needs to make up with plays that get him a yellow card. Same for Maguire, i saw a tweet about Maguire that he is the most booked player in the league since joining Manchester United.McTominay gives his all? Let me guess, united DNA and all that Brexit crap right? Did you notice how the lazy McTominay strolled back several times while city were on the counter? Did you forgive him for his lazy non contribution for City's first goal?
This myth that he gives his all is needs to stop when the evidence points to the contrary often. Pogba has contributed more to this club than McTominay, it's not even close. Brexit players like McTominay and Maguire are getting us nowhere. I'll say one thing, the useless chap didn't get his customary yellow today. Matic would've served us better in wresting control of the ball from deep
They are all s**t.Suprised me that he didnt get a yellow, he was mad when Cancello tried to do a trick (the moment he shouted at Cancello near the corner flag) so i fully expected him to get a yellow card after that. The 'revenge' and show that he has passion type of yellow. McT isnt good enough so he needs to make up with plays that get him a yellow card. Same for Maguire, i saw a tweet about Maguire that he is the most booked player in the league since joining Manchester United.
Fully agree about Pogba, Pogba has been top scorer and top assists some seasons. Doesnt matter though, fans have been influenced by the media into hating Pogba and giving our English and Acedemy players more leeway.
He's been starting in midfield for 2-3 years straight yet we have been poor during that time, too. He's just not good enough, same with Fred. Just compare him to the actual top midfielders or our former midfielders, the gap is huge. Same goes for Fred. In a few years time, we look back and think how the hell could they field these 2 and expect a great midfield performanceHe's a squad player, should never be a starter for club with any iota of ambition. He's the sort you bring on when the game is done and dusted.
I agree. They can't protect the back 4 and cannot initiate attacks. What is the point of them.He's been starting in midfield for 2-3 years straight yet we have been poor during that time, too. He's just not good enough, same with Fred. Just compare him to the actual top midfielders or our former midfielders, the gap is huge. Same goes for Fred. In a few years time, we look back and think how the hell could they field these 2 and expect a great midfield performance
That's what she said.Nobody likes you, Toby.
I actually think McTominay's weakness is off the ball. Always hiding and losing his marker in defense. He is at his best when he can run with the ball, in a box-to-box role, most notably against Leeds every time. But yeah, he isn't good enough to be starting for United but it's nothing new.
Terrible decision making over time got us here. How Ole couldn't see that is beyond meI agree. They can't protect the back 4 and cannot initiate attacks. What is the point of them.
Well the club wouldn't give Jose Maguire, so he left us with these. Think he is having a good laugh, especially now he had a lucky escape with Maguire as well. Rumoured Jose didn't want Fred anyway.Terrible decision making over time got us here. How Ole couldn't see that is beyond me
No one understood why we bought Fred for 50m. Maguire would have been a blessing in disguise but Ole got him, and now we stuck with some bad decisions as wellWell the club wouldn't give Jose Maguire, so he left us with these. Think he is having a good laugh, especially now he had a lucky escape with Maguire as well. Rumoured Jose didn't want Fred anyway.
Wasn't it rumoured City were after Fred, well the club couldn't have that could they. Jose might have been good for Maguire, as you say it was Ole instead who couldn't coach a defence to save his life.No one understood why we bought Fred for 50m. Maguire would have been a blessing in disguise but Ole got him, and now we stuck with some bad decisions as well
He fell lucky being parachuted into the side by Jose because he is tall, because that is all there is.Mind boggling that McTominay has featured prominently under three managers. One can forgive Ralf, the interim manager, and could even
forgive José, but Ole cannot be forgiven for believing in McTominay.
The Offensive players have lots of freedom.His positioning and passing is just terrible. At least Fred is mobile and covers space well.
Maguire + Lindelof + McTominay is why we lose games.
Bailly + Varane + New DM would fix all our defensive issues. And allow our offensive players more freedom.
I can't believe how many United fans still think that he is "good squad option".Can’t believe how many games McTominay has started for United considering his level, sums up the club’s decline.
Indeed. There’s actually no such thing, unless on the rare chance you have exceptional luck with injuries. For years I’ve read that players like Scott or Lingard are okay because they are squad players, and I’ve also seen them starting every week in these spells. If a player isn’t good enough to compete for a starting place, they aren’t good enough to be at the club. The only way you should be condemned to second choice is if you have a generational talent ahead of you, or are too old/young to play with regularity. Anything less and you are simply not good enough. ‘Squad players’ start, and they start a lot too. If we have agreed that these players are ‘not good enough to start’ - then we simply have a weaker team than we should.I can't believe how many United fans still think that he is "good squad option".
Yeah City have good squad options - like Gundogan or Gabriel Jesus where they’re pretty much as good as the first team. McTominay would be significantly worse than a world-class DM so what important games would he play instead of that DM that he would fit fine?I can't believe how many United fans still think that he is "good squad option".
This./I can't believe how many United fans still think that he is "good squad option".
More like nine 4/10 performances and one 6/10, with some absolute stinkers and 1 or 2 top performances over the whole season.Good to see Keane calling him out yesterday. He too often gets a free pass while Fred gets slaughtered.
Nine 6/10 performances and one Captain America level performance every ten games just isn't good enough.
This. The club keep throwing players under the bus because they don’t want to spend money and can’t get their recruitment right.Feel sorry for that lad honestly. Never good enough to be a DM for man UtD. In a SAF team he would be the type to come in to carry out a particular task when needed and would do it well as he very good at following instructions.
Totally agree. We come on here to debate, share and challenge views some of which will never change no matter what. Just look at Neville and how strong his influence is on hordes of United supporters no matter how misplaced and downright wrong some of his views are. This world is all about perception, you build an idea or image that resonates with certain people and the truth won't matter to them.Suprised me that he didnt get a yellow, he was mad when Cancello tried to do a trick (the moment he shouted at Cancello near the corner flag) so i fully expected him to get a yellow card after that. The 'revenge' and show that he has passion type of yellow. McT isnt good enough so he needs to make up with plays that get him a yellow card. Same for Maguire, i saw a tweet about Maguire that he is the most booked player in the league since joining Manchester United.
Fully agree about Pogba, Pogba has been top scorer and top assists some seasons. Doesnt matter though, fans have been influenced by the media into hating Pogba and giving our English and Acedemy players more leeway.
True. Both of them were world class footballers while McTominay would not get into any decent sides at all.Totally agree. We come on here to debate, share and challenge views some of which will never change no matter what. Just look at Neville and how strong his influence is on hordes of United supporters no matter how misplaced and downright wrong some of his views are. This world is all about perception, you build an idea or image that resonates with certain people and the truth won't matter to them.
The clubs powerful PR machine has built this perception of McTominay being the fearless British warrior/leader the team desperately needs and has been longing for since the days of Keane and Robson before him. Except he's everything they weren't. He's the antithesis of anything you'd want starting week in week out in a club vying for top honors
Nah that's too far the other way. Mentally he's good. He does put a shift in and isn't afraid of a big game.Totally agree. We come on here to debate, share and challenge views some of which will never change no matter what. Just look at Neville and how strong his influence is on hordes of United supporters no matter how misplaced and downright wrong some of his views are. This world is all about perception, you build an idea or image that resonates with certain people and the truth won't matter to them.
The clubs powerful PR machine has built this perception of McTominay being the fearless British warrior/leader the team desperately needs and has been longing for since the days of Keane and Robson before him. Except he's everything they weren't. He's the antithesis of anything you'd want starting week in week out in a club vying for top honors
He played every week for half a season. Then Bruno arrived. I guess west ham suits him.I think thats unfair on Lingard. He is good on the ball and he would be good enough for a top premier league team if he played every week like he did for West Ham last season. But he has never managed that at United
McTominay is not good enough, not unless he has the absolute best midfielders playing next to him and he just has a job to do winning the ball in the air and ball winning using his strength
Please take this weak piss troll attempt somewhere else.Not his best game, he struggled against City's crafty midfielders. He has still had a few MOTM awards this season and he is a crucial member of the squad.
It was a genuine post. Everyone knows Scott's limitations, he is a robust combative midfielder but he couldn"t get near the ball. He might not fit into a perfect Utd midfield and if Utd sign a new midfield then he will probably still play regularly as a squad player.Please take this weak piss troll attempt somewhere else.
What a weird thing to take out of all contextHe played every week for half a season. Then Bruno arrived. I guess west ham suits him.
Apart from his height and occasional good shot on goal I don't see anything in him to be bench option let alone starter for United.It was a genuine post. Everyone knows Scott's limitations, he is a robust combative midfielder but he couldn"t get near the ball. He might not fit into a perfect Utd midfield and if Utd sign a new midfield then he will probably still play regularly as a squad player.
